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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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Praps because they were doing too good a job? RD wanted someone who ‘maybe’ might progress the club after all, it’s just latterly TS is cocking it up after all?carly burn said:
Why ditch ESI for Sandgaard if that were the case?EugenesAxe said:
Just suppose for a moment that ESI sold on ‘behalf’ of RD in some form, would that fly?Covered End said:
TS bought from ESI not RD.EugenesAxe said:
Well there has always been a wiff that they may be in league, how come Thomas could get Roland to sell when noone else could.robroy said:Shoot me down, but this is 100% a property play with RD. TS will get a cut and off into the sunset they go.
He made a lease agreement with RD.
They were making a perfectly good fist of destroying the club and would have happily taken any cut of a property play.0 -
Give the tin foil hat stuff a rest.EugenesAxe said:
Praps because they were doing too good a job? RD wanted someone who ‘maybe’ might progress the club after all, it’s just latterly TS is cocking it up after all?carly burn said:
Why ditch ESI for Sandgaard if that were the case?EugenesAxe said:
Just suppose for a moment that ESI sold on ‘behalf’ of RD in some form, would that fly?Covered End said:
TS bought from ESI not RD.EugenesAxe said:
Well there has always been a wiff that they may be in league, how come Thomas could get Roland to sell when noone else could.robroy said:Shoot me down, but this is 100% a property play with RD. TS will get a cut and off into the sunset they go.
He made a lease agreement with RD.
They were making a perfectly good fist of destroying the club and would have happily taken any cut of a property play.10 -
Hardly, and it’s not even my opinion, I’m just talking.se9addick said:
Give the tin foil hat stuff a rest.EugenesAxe said:
Praps because they were doing too good a job? RD wanted someone who ‘maybe’ might progress the club after all, it’s just latterly TS is cocking it up after all?carly burn said:
Why ditch ESI for Sandgaard if that were the case?EugenesAxe said:
Just suppose for a moment that ESI sold on ‘behalf’ of RD in some form, would that fly?Covered End said:
TS bought from ESI not RD.EugenesAxe said:
Well there has always been a wiff that they may be in league, how come Thomas could get Roland to sell when noone else could.robroy said:Shoot me down, but this is 100% a property play with RD. TS will get a cut and off into the sunset they go.
He made a lease agreement with RD.
They were making a perfectly good fist of destroying the club and would have happily taken any cut of a property play.1 -
Sandgaard losing 20mil whilst trying to destroy the club to what, get a few quid from Roland is arguably the most bizarre theory I’ve ever heard.14
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What do you all want, applause?
I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
just ignore me if you don’t agree.4 -
Human nature to look for connections and explanations where none exist.1
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Will do.EugenesAxe said:What do you all want, applause?
I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
just ignore me if you don’t agree.1 -
Yea fair enough and I agreeCallumcafc said:Human nature to look for connections and explanations where none exist.0 -
Easy isn’t itbolloxbolder said:
Will do.EugenesAxe said:What do you all want, applause?
I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
just ignore me if you don’t agree.0 -
Don't think any conspiracy, just believe TS is completely out of his depth. Thrown dummy out if pram when things are failing, and when he thinks they should be going well. Won't accept he is wrong and so cannot adapt the strategy or listen to those with experience. Bloke just needs to sell up and run back to the US.
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I think I’m just hoping there’s a more exciting explanation than Thomas just being an idiot 😩fenlandaddick said:Don't think any conspiracy, just believe TS is completely out of his depth. Thrown dummy out if pram when things are failing, and when he thinks they should be going well. Won't accept he is wrong and so cannot adapt the strategy or listen to those with experience. Bloke just needs to sell up and run back to the US.0 -
I think we can all agree that Charlton have been blessed with two egotists and a bunch of crooks and until we get past this period in our history we will all be asking why ?2
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Apologies, but you typed a load of conspiracy theory nonsense and then asked our opinion (a ? means someone is looking for responses).EugenesAxe said:What do you all want, applause?
I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
just ignore me if you don’t agree.
You get a few replies saying you're talking nonsense (you asked) and then you accuse the people that replied to your question of piling on.
Maybe re-read what you said and in particular understand that by asking a question, the rest of us assumed you were expecting a response to the question you posed.6 -
The fact is, Sandgaard threw a lot of money around when he entered the scene. He wasted a lot of it but it tells you he came into this to be a success. Something has changed of course, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Roland.19
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EugenesAxe said:
I think I’m just hoping there’s a more exciting explanation than Thomas just being an idiot 😩fenlandaddick said:Don't think any conspiracy, just believe TS is completely out of his depth. Thrown dummy out if pram when things are failing, and when he thinks they should be going well. Won't accept he is wrong and so cannot adapt the strategy or listen to those with experience. Bloke just needs to sell up and run back to the US.
Maybe you a right, it is all conjecture and opinion. I just hope we get some luck on the owner front. Club needs investment and stability. Just so we can worry about the football instead.
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I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.3
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Yea I get all that, and thanks for the reasoned reply, I just forgot noone on here has any grey areas with their opinions.Covered End said:
Apologies, but you typed a load of conspiracy theory nonsense and then asked our opinion (a ? means someone is looking for responses).EugenesAxe said:What do you all want, applause?
I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
just ignore me if you don’t agree.
You get a few replies saying you're talking nonsense (you asked) and then you accuse the people that replied to your question of piling on.
Maybe re-read what you said and in particular understand that by asking a question, the rest of us assumed you were expecting a response to the question you posed.
My mistake.1 -
He got bad advice from Roddy.MuttleyCAFC said:The fact is, Sandgaard threw a lot of money around when he entered the scene. He wasted a lot of it but it tells you he came into this to be a success. Something has changed of course, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Roland.
Covid struck badly effecting revenue.
Share price fell 75%.
Lost his "biggest customer" and may now have to repay monies as well to his "biggest customer".3 -
No twitter acct so could someone please enlarge these as too small to read, thanks.Scoham said:
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Exactly, where’s my bloody tin hat I’m putting it back on!Bilko said:I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.1 -
We're Charlton not Real Madrid. If poor performances are going to stop you going then you follow the club. You might as well have saved your money, we've been poor for years!Redmidland said:Well, well! I've just received an email from the club, thanking me for my attendance at the Exeter game and hoping I enjoyed it as much as they did.....I DIDN'T GO!! I was at home not willing to travel down on a Tuesday to watch what had been, up until Tuesday, a pile of crap.
Yes I'm a ST holder, but have been ti just 3 games this season, due to poor performances.
Yet this is the first time they've thanked me for going!! Oh and then asked if I want to buy a ticket for next Monday? I'm a ST holder why would I want to buy a ticket!
Fuck me they can't even get that right....unbelievable!
Although having said that we're actually unbeaten at home.3 -
Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assetsBailey said:
That's a fair point.Bilko said:I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
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Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point.cafcfan1990 said:
Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assetsBailey said:
That's a fair point.Bilko said:I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.0 -
All this talk of TS spending £20million is laughable, he paid £1million and we had £400k in the bank. He took a loan of £300k. These are only the things we now know about.
what else has gone on?We are in serious trouble by the sounds of things3 -
Didn't ESI have to pay a certain figure for the assets? Either way, Roland didn't have to declare ESI were in default, it was obvious they couldn't pay and they were selling the club to Sandgaard. What would Roland have had to gain by not negotiating with Sandgaard?Bailey said:
Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point.cafcfan1990 said:
Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assetsBailey said:
That's a fair point.Bilko said:I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
I don't think it's a fair point at all to be honest, it makes zero sense. What would Sandgaard gain?0 -
Three wins and three draws at home this season (think it’s five wins if you include cup matches) - pretty good value for ST holders so far!Chris_from_Sidcup said:
We're Charlton not Real Madrid. If poor performances are going to stop you going then you follow the club. You might as well have saved your money, we've been poor for years!Redmidland said:Well, well! I've just received an email from the club, thanking me for my attendance at the Exeter game and hoping I enjoyed it as much as they did.....I DIDN'T GO!! I was at home not willing to travel down on a Tuesday to watch what had been, up until Tuesday, a pile of crap.
Yes I'm a ST holder, but have been ti just 3 games this season, due to poor performances.
Yet this is the first time they've thanked me for going!! Oh and then asked if I want to buy a ticket for next Monday? I'm a ST holder why would I want to buy a ticket!
Fuck me they can't even get that right....unbelievable!
Although having said that we're actually unbeaten at home.0 -
It’s almost as if TS wants shot of the club and to sabotage it at the same time.0
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I just save it to the desktop & enlarge it on thereFanny Fanackapan said:
No twitter acct so could someone please enlarge these as too small to read, thanks.Scoham said:0 -
RD needed to get the club back off ESI who were shafting it left right and centre, in return Thommy gets a cut when RD ultimately finds a buyer for the whole shebang.cafcfan1990 said:
Didn't ESI have to pay a certain figure for the assets? Either way, Roland didn't have to declare ESI were in default, it was obvious they couldn't pay and they were selling the club to Sandgaard. What would Roland have had to gain by not negotiating with Sandgaard?Bailey said:
Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point.cafcfan1990 said:
Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assetsBailey said:
That's a fair point.Bilko said:I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
I don't think it's a fair point at all to be honest, it makes zero sense. IWhat would Sandgaard gain?1
