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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • robroy said:
    Shoot me down, but this is 100% a property play with RD. TS will get a cut and off into the sunset they go. 


    Well there has always been a wiff that they may be in league, how come Thomas could get Roland to sell when noone else could.
    TS bought from ESI not RD.
    He made a lease agreement with RD.
    Just suppose for a moment that ESI sold on ‘behalf’ of RD in some form, would that fly?
     Why ditch ESI for Sandgaard if that were the case?
    They were making a perfectly good fist of destroying the club and would have happily taken any cut of a property play.
    Praps because they were doing too good a job? RD wanted someone who ‘maybe’ might progress the club after all, it’s just latterly TS is cocking it up after all?
  • se9addick said:
    robroy said:
    Shoot me down, but this is 100% a property play with RD. TS will get a cut and off into the sunset they go. 


    Well there has always been a wiff that they may be in league, how come Thomas could get Roland to sell when noone else could.
    TS bought from ESI not RD.
    He made a lease agreement with RD.
    Just suppose for a moment that ESI sold on ‘behalf’ of RD in some form, would that fly?
     Why ditch ESI for Sandgaard if that were the case?
    They were making a perfectly good fist of destroying the club and would have happily taken any cut of a property play.
    Praps because they were doing too good a job? RD wanted someone who ‘maybe’ might progress the club after all, it’s just latterly TS is cocking it up after all?
    Give the tin foil hat stuff a rest. 
    Hardly, and it’s not even my opinion, I’m just talking.
  • What do you all want, applause?
    I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
    just ignore me if you don’t agree.
  • Human nature to look for connections and explanations where none exist.
  • What do you all want, applause?
    I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
    just ignore me if you don’t agree.
    Will do.
  • Human nature to look for connections and explanations where none exist.
    Yea fair enough and I agree
  • What do you all want, applause?
    I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
    just ignore me if you don’t agree.
    Will do.
    Easy isn’t it
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  • Don't think any conspiracy, just believe TS is completely out of his depth. Thrown dummy out if pram when things are failing, and when he thinks they should be going well. Won't accept he is wrong and so cannot adapt the strategy or listen to those with experience. Bloke just needs to sell up and run back to the US.
    I think I’m just hoping there’s a more exciting explanation than Thomas just being an idiot 😩
  • I think we can all agree that Charlton have been blessed with two egotists and a bunch of crooks and until we get past this period in our history we will all be asking why ?
  • Don't think any conspiracy, just believe TS is completely out of his depth. Thrown dummy out if pram when things are failing, and when he thinks they should be going well. Won't accept he is wrong and so cannot adapt the strategy or listen to those with experience. Bloke just needs to sell up and run back to the US.
    I think I’m just hoping there’s a more exciting explanation than Thomas just being an idiot 😩

    Maybe you a right, it is all conjecture and opinion. I just hope we get some luck on the owner front. Club needs investment and stability. Just so we can worry about the football instead.
  • I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
  • What do you all want, applause?
    I’ve noticed on here every so often there’s a pile on in here, is it my turn tonight?
    just ignore me if you don’t agree.
    Apologies, but you typed a load of conspiracy theory nonsense and then asked our opinion (a ? means someone is looking for responses).

    You get a few replies saying you're talking nonsense (you asked) and then you accuse the people that replied to your question of piling on.

    Maybe re-read what you said and in particular understand that by asking a question, the rest of us assumed you were expecting a response to the question you posed.
    Yea I get all that, and thanks for the reasoned reply, I just forgot noone on here has any grey areas with their opinions.
    My mistake.
  • The fact is, Sandgaard threw a lot of money around when he entered the scene. He wasted a lot of it but it tells you he came into this to be a success. Something has changed of course, but I'm sure it has nothing to do with Roland.
    He got bad advice from Roddy.
    Covid struck badly effecting revenue.
    Share price fell 75%.
    Lost his "biggest customer" and may now have to repay monies as well to his "biggest customer".
  • Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    That's a fair point. 
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    Scoham said:

    No twitter acct so could someone please enlarge these as too small to read, thanks.
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  • Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    Exactly, where’s my bloody tin hat I’m putting it back on!
  • Well, well! I've just received an email from the club, thanking me for my attendance at the Exeter game and hoping I enjoyed it as much as they did.....I DIDN'T GO!! I was at home not willing to travel down on a Tuesday to watch what had been, up until Tuesday, a pile of crap.
    Yes I'm a ST holder, but have been ti just 3 games this season, due to poor performances. 
    Yet this is the first time they've thanked me for going!! Oh and then asked if I want to buy a ticket for next Monday? I'm a ST holder why would I want to buy a ticket!
    Fuck me they can't even get that right....unbelievable!
    We're Charlton not Real Madrid. If poor performances are going to stop you going then you follow the club. You might as well have saved your money, we've been poor for years!

    Although having said that we're actually unbeaten at home.
  • Bailey said:
    Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    That's a fair point. 
    Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assets 
  • Bailey said:
    Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    That's a fair point. 
    Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assets 
    Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point. 
  • All this talk of TS spending £20million is laughable, he paid £1million and we had £400k in the bank. He took a loan of £300k. These are only the things we now know about.

    what else has gone on? 

    We are in serious trouble by the sounds of things 
  • Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    That's a fair point. 
    Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assets 
    Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point. 
    Didn't ESI have to pay a certain figure for the assets? Either way, Roland didn't have to declare ESI were in default, it was obvious they couldn't pay and they were selling the club to Sandgaard. What would Roland have had to gain by not negotiating with Sandgaard? 

    I don't think it's a fair point at all to be honest, it makes zero sense. What would Sandgaard gain?
  • Well, well! I've just received an email from the club, thanking me for my attendance at the Exeter game and hoping I enjoyed it as much as they did.....I DIDN'T GO!! I was at home not willing to travel down on a Tuesday to watch what had been, up until Tuesday, a pile of crap.
    Yes I'm a ST holder, but have been ti just 3 games this season, due to poor performances. 
    Yet this is the first time they've thanked me for going!! Oh and then asked if I want to buy a ticket for next Monday? I'm a ST holder why would I want to buy a ticket!
    Fuck me they can't even get that right....unbelievable!
    We're Charlton not Real Madrid. If poor performances are going to stop you going then you follow the club. You might as well have saved your money, we've been poor for years!

    Although having said that we're actually unbeaten at home.
    Three wins and three draws at home this season (think it’s five wins if you include cup matches) - pretty good value for ST holders so far!
  • It’s almost as if TS wants shot of the club and to sabotage it at the same time. 
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    Scoham said:

    No twitter acct so could someone please enlarge these as too small to read, thanks.
    I just save it to the desktop & enlarge it on there
  • Bailey said:
    Bailey said:
    Bilko said:
    I must admit I did find it a bit strange when all the takeover talk was taking place with various other parties being mentioned, then up pops TS out of nowhere to get the deal done and quite quickly.
    That's a fair point. 
    Sandgaard popped out of nowhere because he was willing to meet Roland’s terms on the rent and was willing to buy the club without owning the assets 
    Sorry but I believed this involved a third party in ESI. There may be nothing in it but at what point did Dutchelet declare ESI were in default by either not abiding by their contract or defaulting on payments ? Which is the same thing. As I say there may be nothing in it but I think it's a fair point. 
    Didn't ESI have to pay a certain figure for the assets? Either way, Roland didn't have to declare ESI were in default, it was obvious they couldn't pay and they were selling the club to Sandgaard. What would Roland have had to gain by not negotiating with Sandgaard? 

    I don't think it's a fair point at all to be honest, it makes zero sense. IWhat would Sandgaard gain?
    RD needed to get the club back off ESI who were shafting it left right and centre, in return Thommy gets a cut when RD ultimately finds a buyer for the whole shebang.
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