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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Now Stockton has asked for a transfer, I suspect things will start moving. I agree that our geography counts against us, though he might be attracted by a change of scenery, and having Lavelle who he played with at Morecambe, here already may help.Exiled_Addick said:Nothing but pure speculation on my part but it’s weird that there has been no serious links with Stockton from any of the league’s front runners. One season wonder or not, he was good enough last season that teams must be looking at him. I read it that they’re being put off by the price Morecambe are asking but I’d be duty if there have not been lots of enquiries for him.
Depending how you read Garner’s comments, he alluded that someone needs to shift on their demands for us to sign a striker.We’re at the time in the window where selling clubs start to soften and buying clubs get a bit more urgent. The middle ground will get found on lots of potential negotiations that might have come to a stand still a week or more ago.It might be 2+2=5 but I wouldn’t be shocked if Stockton to us (and a few other teams with promotion ambitions) would fall into that category.
I'd be staggered if he went to Fleetwood though, the likes of Bolton and Barnsley will surely be sniffing around.2 -
I don't know how close we will be to the squad number limit by the end of the window, but Henry being under 21 may make him a more attractive 6th midfielder than say Gilbey or JFC. Especially with both Morgan and Clayden both now counting in the numbers.2
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He is more mobile, which, when it comes to Inniss, isn't hard. I don't know that there's a huge different when it comes to ability on the ball and passing. Neither are great, neither are Pearce bad.killerandflash said:
I don't think Lavelle is any better with the ball to be fairesseffect said:A shame to let Gilbey go.
Haven’t really had a chance to see how Lavelle and O’Connel play together.But Innis scares me playing out from the back. He has all the confidence of a ball playing centre back and none of the ability
TransferMarkt has Lavelle as costing 235k last year. I have no idea if that is anywhere in the ballpark as to what he has cost. But he's never looked anything more than a solid L1 CB to me. To be fair, he had two bad injuries last year after not really having any prior to that in his career. So he might get better with a solid run of games (which he'll get to at least some extent because Inniss can't play three times in a week). But I don't know, paying money for him still feels a bit odd as of now. Maybe that changes this season.1 -
I know, realistically, Stockton will go somewhere else. However, there's a small part of me dreaming that there's still a sliver of hope that we might get him. He looked noticeably better than vast majority of opposing strikers I saw vs. us last year and I think he'd suit the style of football Garner plays. Crucially, I also think he would be more clinical in the role that Stockley occupies, which might be the difference in big games.
Stockley brings a lot to this team. He's the skipper and our main man, plus probably a whole bunch of intangibles we don't see too. If he's fit, he should start. However, if he's crocked, it could scupper us completely. Stockton is that missing piece for me - gives Garner the choice to rest Stockley to keep him fresh, play differently against certain teams AND allow Leaburn to develop at a reasonable (but his naturally explosive!) pace.
It may well be silly money, but the lad has less than year on his contract and has already handed in a transfer request, if stories are to be believed. If there is any money left in the kitty and means shifting Gilbey/JFC, so be it.
Another defender is a sensible move, given Inniss' injury record. But, at a pinch, we have a few that could cover across the back line. Stockton would give us an embarrassment of options up front, and that would push us into automatic contention imo.
Got all my fingers and toes praying for this. It won't happen, but I live for the dream!0 -
Transfer rumour Gilbey out and Stockton in 🤞🏻
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agreed - bring stockton in and i think we would be looking very strong - offloading gilbey, jfc, macg and dj would have zero impact on our chances this seasonth0rryy said:I know, realistically, Stockton will go somewhere else. However, there's a small part of me dreaming that there's still a sliver of hope that we might get him. He looked noticeably better than vast majority of opposing strikers I saw vs. us last year and I think he'd suit the style of football Garner plays. Crucially, I also think he would be more clinical in the role that Stockley occupies, which might be the difference in big games.
Stockley brings a lot to this team. He's the skipper and our main man, plus probably a whole bunch of intangibles we don't see too. If he's fit, he should start. However, if he's crocked, it could scupper us completely. Stockton is that missing piece for me - gives Garner the choice to rest Stockley to keep him fresh, play differently against certain teams AND allow Leaburn to develop at a reasonable (but his naturally explosive!) pace.
It may well be silly money, but the lad has less than year on his contract and has already handed in a transfer request, if stories are to be believed. If there is any money left in the kitty and means shifting Gilbey/JFC, so be it.
Another defender is a sensible move, given Inniss' injury record. But, at a pinch, we have a few that could cover across the back line. Stockton would give us an embarrassment of options up front, and that would push us into automatic contention imo.
Got all my fingers and toes praying for this. It won't happen, but I live for the dream!1 -
Made me laugh, one news source referred to him as a premier league star, yeah right!SoundAsa£ said:Just as a matter of interest, has Lyle Taylor made any kind of comment regarding the story of us being interested in having him back here?
He’s usually quite prepared to ‘stir the pot’ a little on social media in some way or another….be it a bit of sarcasm or dangling a line or two.1 -
Because you just go on and on about it. Everybody gets it, you’re extremely tired at Aneke’s injury issues. Do you really have to repeat it every day?addick1956 said:
I cannot wait either but frankly the number of appearances to injuries is almost the same si ce January. 9 appearances in 6 months and still no idea when he may put a toe over the line. 4 goals in 6 months is no good for a promotion hopeful like us.Covered_End_Lad said:Cannot wait for Chuks to bang some goals in when he is back just to shut 1956 up for a while.
Others think the same but it is me again you go for. Why ? Do you think 9 games in six months is OK especially when quite a few were cameos that required me to get out a photo to recognise him.6 -
23 goals in 40 league one appearances gotta be worth it ?TheAddicks4Ever said:Transfer rumour Gilbey out and Stockton in 🤞🏻
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Stockton gives me big Nicky Ajose vibes.
Just don't think he's the one.16 -
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Pearce was perfectly ok on the ball, possibly better than Lavelle. It was Famewo who stood out, and for the wrong reasons, with his terrible passing last season.SDAddick said:
He is more mobile, which, when it comes to Inniss, isn't hard. I don't know that there's a huge different when it comes to ability on the ball and passing. Neither are great, neither are Pearce bad.killerandflash said:
I don't think Lavelle is any better with the ball to be fairesseffect said:A shame to let Gilbey go.
Haven’t really had a chance to see how Lavelle and O’Connel play together.But Innis scares me playing out from the back. He has all the confidence of a ball playing centre back and none of the ability
TransferMarkt has Lavelle as costing 235k last year. I have no idea if that is anywhere in the ballpark as to what he has cost. But he's never looked anything more than a solid L1 CB to me. To be fair, he had two bad injuries last year after not really having any prior to that in his career. So he might get better with a solid run of games (which he'll get to at least some extent because Inniss can't play three times in a week). But I don't know, paying money for him still feels a bit odd as of now. Maybe that changes this season.3 -
Agreed. I’ve often typed messages in that shorthand style, only to add the missing words before sending.golfaddick said:
Then as a journalist he needs to learn how to type properly.JamesSeed said:
Already commented on that Golfie.golfaddick said:
Does Cawley mean "A few" clubs interested as in 3 or 4, or does he mean "few" clubs interested which means not many, ie almost none.charlton_hero said:
The English language is a wonderful thing. Please type what you mean to say otherwise you could be sending out a very different message.
Clearly means ‘a few’ though.Or not bothered with caps, only to go back and add them. Bit obsessive.0 -
On reflection yes, I think you are correct, defender first..
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He did ok the other night but i'm not sure i'd be that comfortable with Clayden at left back for any length of time if Sessegnon got injured. He's good going forward but would need to improve a lot defensively if that's going to be his new role. It's one thing when you're dominating a team at home, but away to the likes of Ipswich, Peterborough, Portsmouth, Derby etc i feel he'd be targeted.killerandflash said:
Clayden seems to have solved the the LB problem. Clayden and Sessegnon on the left, Clare and Egbo on the right seems good enough for the time being.DubaiCAFC said:
I don’t get this, I think we are pretty well covered there, and have options such a Clare slotting in as well, and calling DE back off loan! Get we might want a left footed CB but that is a luxuryCallumcafc said:
Forward has to be surely.. or a Full Back
I'll be honest though i haven't seen too much of him and I trust Garner so if he feels he's up to it, then let's see.2 -
Famewo isn't a good passer, but what stood out was that he was the one always hoofing it up to Stockley (not particularly well). That he was often forced into doing it, was a symptom of a failing system.killerandflash said:
Pearce was perfectly ok on the ball, possibly better than Lavelle. It was Famewo who stood out, and for the wrong reasons, with his terrible passing last season.SDAddick said:
He is more mobile, which, when it comes to Inniss, isn't hard. I don't know that there's a huge different when it comes to ability on the ball and passing. Neither are great, neither are Pearce bad.killerandflash said:
I don't think Lavelle is any better with the ball to be fairesseffect said:A shame to let Gilbey go.
Haven’t really had a chance to see how Lavelle and O’Connel play together.But Innis scares me playing out from the back. He has all the confidence of a ball playing centre back and none of the ability
TransferMarkt has Lavelle as costing 235k last year. I have no idea if that is anywhere in the ballpark as to what he has cost. But he's never looked anything more than a solid L1 CB to me. To be fair, he had two bad injuries last year after not really having any prior to that in his career. So he might get better with a solid run of games (which he'll get to at least some extent because Inniss can't play three times in a week). But I don't know, paying money for him still feels a bit odd as of now. Maybe that changes this season.3 -
Stockton is essentially doing a Lyle Taylor to Morcambe, off the back of one good season, and people are still clamouring for him.If he was rated as worth the risk, why has it got to the point that he has had to hand in a transfer request, and it is only Fleetwood who have come in with any sort of tangible bid for him?8
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Whilst i agree with what you said and i posted earlier this week in that he seems to be rated better on this forum than by the top clubs in league one, i think as we get closer to the deadline you might see other clubs come in for him.FishCostaFortune said:Stockton is essentially doing a Lyle Taylor to Morcambe, off the back of one good season, and people are still clamouring for him.If he was rated as worth the risk, why has it got to the point that he has had to hand in a transfer request, and it is only Fleetwood who have come in with any sort of tangible bid for him?
Clubs like Oxford, Wycombe and MK Dons perhaps who haven't made a good start and may well decide that for 100-200k he's worth a gamble.1 -
Don't forget we still have Jacob Roddy to play at left back.12
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Whatever happened to him?Henry Irving said:Don't forget we still have Jacob Roddy to play at left back.0 -
InjuredChris_from_Sidcup said:
Whatever happened to him?Henry Irving said:Don't forget we still have Jacob Roddy to play at left back.0 -
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Still around but injuredChris_from_Sidcup said:
Whatever happened to him?Henry Irving said:Don't forget we still have Jacob Roddy to play at left back.1 -
Thought he was on a freeLeuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf...0 -
If Morecambe were holding out for say £500k then that would explain no one signing him until now.FishCostaFortune said:Stockton is essentially doing a Lyle Taylor to Morcambe, off the back of one good season, and people are still clamouring for him.If he was rated as worth the risk, why has it got to the point that he has had to hand in a transfer request, and it is only Fleetwood who have come in with any sort of tangible bid for him?0 -
Nah we paid for him. Though not sure he was ‘flogged without a seconds hesitation’:Redhenry said:
Thought he was on a freeLeuth said:
Would that be the Russell Martin who flogged him to Charlton without a second's hesitation?FishCostaFortune said:
Not sure what they were like under Tisdale, but he did play under Russel Martin whose style makes ‘GarnerBall’ look like prime Sam Allardyce.Leuth said:MKD weren't nearly so ball-playing while Gilbey was there, tbf...
https://www.mkfm.com/news/mk-dons-news/mk-dons-boss-russell-martin-discusses-alex-gilbey-situation/
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The more I think about it, the more Tyreece Simpson would make sense as our striker signing. Can play through the middle but also be used as a wide forward, good age profile with resale potential, played well under our manager, linked well with Payne, hasn't played competitive football for a bit so wouldn't be expecting to start games straight away. It would be down to whether Ipswich would let him go to a rival team, whether they reduce their asking price and whether a team from higher up didn't fancy him...
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I think Huddersfield are looking to sign him.Addickhead86 said:The more I think about it, the more Tyreece Simpson would make sense as our striker signing. Can play through the middle but also be used as a wide forward, good age profile with resale potential, played well under our manager, linked well with Payne, hasn't played competitive football for a bit so wouldn't be expecting to start games straight away. It would be down to whether Ipswich would let him go to a rival team, whether they reduce their asking price and whether a team from higher up didn't fancy him...0 -
You've got a point!cafcfan1990 said:
Because you just go on and on about it. Everybody gets it, you’re extremely tired at Aneke’s injury issues. Do you really have to repeat it every day?addick1956 said:
I cannot wait either but frankly the number of appearances to injuries is almost the same si ce January. 9 appearances in 6 months and still no idea when he may put a toe over the line. 4 goals in 6 months is no good for a promotion hopeful like us.Covered_End_Lad said:Cannot wait for Chuks to bang some goals in when he is back just to shut 1956 up for a while.
Others think the same but it is me again you go for. Why ? Do you think 9 games in six months is OK especially when quite a few were cameos that required me to get out a photo to recognise him.1 -
Watch the highlights of the first couple of goals and the relentless nature of the press . He couldn’t do it .addick1956 said:
Only because people keep banging on about how effective he is and when he cines back etc , etc....cafcfan1990 said:
Because you just go on and on about it. Everybody gets it, you’re extremely tired at Aneke’s injury issues. Do you really have to repeat it every day?addick1956 said:
I cannot wait either but frankly the number of appearances to injuries is almost the same si ce January. 9 appearances in 6 months and still no idea when he may put a toe over the line. 4 goals in 6 months is no good for a promotion hopeful like us.Covered_End_Lad said:Cannot wait for Chuks to bang some goals in when he is back just to shut 1956 up for a while.
Others think the same but it is me again you go for. Why ? Do you think 9 games in six months is OK especially when quite a few were cameos that required me to get out a photo to recognise him.
Logic says it will take a miracle for that to happen soon. Besides which when he came back and then got injured in short order I got pelters because I said I expected that.
He is not the Messiah and to even get on the bench he needs to be much fitter than now.
Put simply do you or anyone else on here really think he can keep up with the pace and exertion of Garner Ball.
Having said that Bowyer despaired of Morgan bothering if we were under pressure. This year he seems to be a revelation compared to that Morgan.
I know others on here think the same so ho and bang on at them instead but please don't say that the lastv6 or 7 months have revealed a super fit Aneke because bthey haven't so far.
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I got pelters on here a few years back when I suggested Francis was better than Solly. In fairness I did underestimate Solly a bit but I commented that I liked the fact Francis was taller which may have been responsible for the Charlton Life height test.addick1956 said:
A good example of being a good player despite your views. Or perhaps you are a better judge than , say , Newcastle manager, Eddie Howe. As you say Wibble wibble 🥸Cafc43v3r said:
Simon Francis wibble wibbleScoham said:
Moan about Chuks all you want but don’t you dare slag off Gunter.ValleyGary said:here he is….
I always thought the errors Francis made was down to him trying to make things happen in a poor team.3 -
I don't see him refusing to play in a relegation fight, using covid as an excuse whilst his team mates tried to battle on to the end.FishCostaFortune said:Stockton is essentially doing a Lyle Taylor to Morcambe, off the back of one good season, and people are still clamouring for him.12
