killerandflash said:

Why did he limp off?

He had a major fall during the first half (into the opposition dugout) but seemed to recover, but after about 55 minutes was really struggling and went off straight down the tunnel.

The ref didn’t seem to think there was anything wrong with the challenge. I did think that he might had hit his face on the railings.

guinnessaddick said:

killerandflash said:

Why did he limp off?

He had a major fall during the first half (into the opposition dugout) but seemed to recover, but after about 55 minutes was really struggling and went off straight down the tunnel.

The ref didn’t seem to think there was anything wrong with the challenge. I did think that he might had hit his face on the railings.

How the hell that wasn’t a booking I will never know.

Hope he recovers from whatever it was that made him go off, he has made a huge difference this season even without that superb strike last night.

Garrymanilow said:

Interesting that two players fans can't get enough of at the moment are Clare and Dobson. This time last year they were poster children for our terrible transfer business (why are we signing League One rejects?!). I'm not saying that there weren't problems with how we signed players in that window, but it just goes to show that a bit of time to settle and suddenly players can show you why Gallen and the rest wanted to sign them in the first place.

You're right of course but still a bit fortunate with Clare given he was signed to play midfield. 

cantersaddick said:

Leuth said:

cantersaddick said:

Was at the QPR game with a QPR fan who hadnt seen him before. He rated Clare a lot and thought he was wasted at right back.

It's one of the positions on the field, just as important as all the others. I can't see how anyone could be 'wasted' there

I get what your saying but he was meaning that with his pace, athleticism, ability to get up and down the pitch and his composure/ability on the ball he could have more influence in the middle. I Would still like to see him given a run there but cant really see it happening with this squad.

I don't quite think he has the ability in tight spaces or passing range that Garner wants from his midfielders. There's a reason Gilbey is being frozen out (actually there are several, but that's the main one)

Turning into one of my favourite players! I've always loved an exciting full-back and we've been robbed of those in recent years. Also agree with the suggestion that he feels like a proper Charlton player. Very industrious but has a bit of quality as well.

Looked a level above yesterday and brimming with confidence.

Clearly the lad has always had it in him to be a full-back but he left Oxford because he didn't want to play there. I worried he wouldn't want to play there for us. But he looked like he was really enjoying himself last night. 

I think we brought Egbo in to play but he's got a battle on his hands to win that shirt back now!

What a goal !
That will take some beating for GOTS. 
A defender that can play in different formations, and scores the odd goal - very valuable player. 

cantersaddick said:

Was at the QPR game with a QPR fan who hadnt seen him before. He rated Clare a lot and thought he was wasted at right back.

I will say this only once, Hello Hello.

Your mate is so wrong, did no one notice how good Shaw was in the Euro's as an attacking back. (Had a wobble since !)

In the modern game the attacking backs are so important and we struggled so much last season because of the lack of pace in the wing back areas so we played wingers and asked them to defend or one paced defenders like Matthews, Purrington and Gunter who struggled to get up and down the flanks.

We have enough midfielders but Clare can cover so many positions but let's forget about when Sean was unsettled at RB at Oxford; under Garner he can really show what a decent footballer he is with his charges forward and helping to hit teams in transition. 

The days someone was wasted as a back was so last Century. You spend as much time attacking than defending in a flexible, fluid, Garner type formation.  You can play JJ's 3-5-2 or Garner's 4-3-3 but you need pace and Clare has it to wing it down the flanks plus he can defend as well. Fraser, Dobson, Morgan, and MaGrandles are in front of him plus he covers all the defensives positions other than LB.

guinnessaddick said:

killerandflash said:

Why did he limp off?

He had a major fall during the first half (into the opposition dugout) but seemed to recover, but after about 55 minutes was really struggling and went off straight down the tunnel.

The ref didn’t seem to think there was anything wrong with the challenge. I did think that he might had hit his face on the railings.

It was his shoulder. He landed awkardly. 

Leuth said:

cantersaddick said:

Leuth said:

cantersaddick said:

Was at the QPR game with a QPR fan who hadnt seen him before. He rated Clare a lot and thought he was wasted at right back.

It's one of the positions on the field, just as important as all the others. I can't see how anyone could be 'wasted' there

I get what your saying but he was meaning that with his pace, athleticism, ability to get up and down the pitch and his composure/ability on the ball he could have more influence in the middle. I Would still like to see him given a run there but cant really see it happening with this squad.

I don't quite think he has the ability in tight spaces or passing range that Garner wants from his midfielders. There's a reason Gilbey is being frozen out (actually there are several, but that's the main one)

I agree - he lacks the awareness of what is around him too. At right back , he has much more space in front of him and it better suits his athleticism. 

Read somewhere - Twitter I think - that he had an ice pack on his knee but precautionary and should be fine. Hope so!

golfaddick said:

Cloudworm said:

I like the fact he's vegan. Suggests he has integrity. He may not have,of course, but experience tells me most vegans have the ability to empathise with others - a trait I personally find important. He also always comes across well in interviews. 

How does being a vegan & having empathy go together. I have no idea of the statistics but I wouldn't have thought more than 10% of the population are vegan. Therefore the vast majority of the population are not vegan. You do realise that these people also have empathy. Therefore there are far more empathetic non vegans on this planet than vegans with empathy. 

Skewed logic.

Completely skewed logic and reasoning in your part, Golfie. Saying a person probably has empathy because they’re vegan is not saying anything about non-vegans.  I have a qualification in logic so I do know what I’m talking about.