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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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In short, they were a couple of clumsy battering rams.Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
Is it? What does it mean?BR7_addick said:Bonne and another forward can’t remember who were nicknamed “the bash brothers” by Ipswich fans. That’s a massive red flag for Garner ball.1 -
Just kidding, I do get info, depends if the agents I know have players at the club, then I will usually get more info. I rarely ask, they will text me stuff if they can be bothered..BR7_addick said:
ITK - in the know. You used to have some takes if I remember rightly!Redhenry said:
Not sure what ITK game is, only saw Stockton once but he was a handful, the sort of striker I like..BR7_addick said:
You back in the ITK game Red Hen?? Or is this pure desire.Redhenry said:Stockton and a LB pls7 -
Agree with this, Seth. I posted something similar a couple of weeks back saying that the 5 from the bench and the eleven that finished the game would be as important as the eleven that started.seth plum said:May I mention again that the increase in the number of substitutes allowed is going to be a game changer beyond the normal game changing function of substitutes anyway.
If Chucks Aneke was fit to be a substitute every game, experience has shown that as an impact introduction there are none better in our squad. My managerial thinking would assume Chucks would play regularly but not for long each game.
We speculate on here from time to time about our best starting eleven, but I think we will shift inexorably to stating our best match day squad of eighteen.
Our transfer activity needs to, and does, reflect this new reality.
We have come a long way since the historic Keith Peacock moment, and many of us remember years and years of the single substitute law.
Imagine for a moment what the situation in football would be if there were no substitutions allowed, or only one.
We need to start thinking that it won't be say, Scott Fraser playing for 90 minutes but playing for 65 minutes and being replaced by say Jack Payne, for example ...... 2 players who are both capable of being considered 1st XI players, rather than as 'just' squad players.
It's a 16 man team now for most games; player energy levels will be managed more effectively allowing the team to play with greater intensity.
Well, no doubt that will be the plan.
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as Oggy says , another advantage is that players fitness can be managed better which might lead to less injuries - if we do it right5
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Well we all know that can’t be true, TS doesn’t spend fees on players bla bla bla.supaclive said:Good news is, if we are bidding 600k on Pigott, it’s in the same region as Stocktons valuation. Can certainly see us making that flashy signing where TS gets to put on the shades and get the guitar on the go for the announcement1 -
Piggot is the same as Stockley isn't he?, didn't have pace from memory..0
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yeah, no thanks, 600k for a striker who's average league 1 quality, can't see it tbh
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would love Stockton, a bit of Yann there I thought...
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The system may even cut down of player burn out and injury.Oggy Red said:
Agree with this, Seth. I posted something similar a couple of weeks back saying that the 5 from the bench and the eleven that finished the game would be as important as the eleven that started.seth plum said:May I mention again that the increase in the number of substitutes allowed is going to be a game changer beyond the normal game changing function of substitutes anyway.
If Chucks Aneke was fit to be a substitute every game, experience has shown that as an impact introduction there are none better in our squad. My managerial thinking would assume Chucks would play regularly but not for long each game.
We speculate on here from time to time about our best starting eleven, but I think we will shift inexorably to stating our best match day squad of eighteen.
Our transfer activity needs to, and does, reflect this new reality.
We have come a long way since the historic Keith Peacock moment, and many of us remember years and years of the single substitute law.
Imagine for a moment what the situation in football would be if there were no substitutions allowed, or only one.
We need to start thinking that it won't be say, Scott Fraser playing for 90 minutes but playing for 65 minutes and being replaced by say Jack Payne, for example ...... 2 players who are both capable of being considered 1st XI players, rather than as 'just' squad players.
It's a 16 man team now for most games; player energy levels will be managed more effectively allowing the team to play with greater intensity.
Well, no doubt that will be the plan.
We will see more fresh and dare I say athletic play.
Of course this works for all teams, but we will now also demand an extra level of managerial skill in their approach to deployment.
Edit. Just seen @lancashire lad say the same thing above. Apologies.
Mind you won’t this also mean a change in how we mark/assess players post match😀2 -
I thought Hewie stayed with us for his entire career till he left to go back to SA after he's testimonial.addick1956 said:
Firmani , Kenning, Hales, Flanagan, Powell, Hewie. And many others.stop_shouting said:
I would normally adopt that mantra but Mortimer and whyte came back. Then I suppose so did Lee cook!supaclive said:Nabby Sarr is NOT the answer. Cult hero, but don't ever go back.
Or have not remembered correctly.2 -
It’s interesting that he still hasn’t moved. Too much of a gamble for Champ clubs perhaps? Wednesday don’t need him having signed Smith. Ipswich I assume have plenty of strikers. Maybe too expensive for Pompey (and us?). He’s at an age where now is a good time to move, if his form drops off he won’t get that big chance.Redhenry said:would love Stockton, a bit of Yann there I thought...1 -
I would take the 600k bid on Joe Pigott as fanciful. Reserve League 1 players don't go for that money when they are 29 in November.
Joe was really good at Wimbledon in a struggling side and it really suited him there.
Hold up play is good and he will shoot on sight. He can drift in behind but pace is not his game and isn't as good in the air as Stockley or Aneke.
Happy memories of seeing Joe score for Southend when coming on as sub at Wembley against Wycombe and also scoring a penalty in the shoot out. Good guy and a great family, his dad told me you have to have thick skin if you hear some loud mouth giving it large.
Blackpool 72 have put this rumour to bed so let's move on to the fast forward who is similar football wise to Taylor and Grant and can be a winger/striker/forward.
Good luck Steve Gallen and your side kick Martin Sandgaard on that acquisition.0 -
Barnsley need strikers still I think after losing Woodrow and Morris. They’ve signed Norwood but Duff is a 3-5-2 manager so they will want more. Makes sense geographically as wellScoham said:
It’s interesting that he still hasn’t moved. Too much of a gamble for Champ clubs perhaps? Wednesday don’t need him having signed Smith. Ipswich I assume have plenty of strikers. Maybe too expensive for Pompey (and us?). He’s at an age where now is a good time to move, if his form drops off he won’t get that big chance.Redhenry said:would love Stockton, a bit of Yann there I thought...2 -
You are correctStrikerFirmani said:
I thought Hewie stayed with us for his entire career till he left to go back to SA after he's testimonial.addick1956 said:
Firmani , Kenning, Hales, Flanagan, Powell, Hewie. And many others.stop_shouting said:
I would normally adopt that mantra but Mortimer and whyte came back. Then I suppose so did Lee cook!supaclive said:Nabby Sarr is NOT the answer. Cult hero, but don't ever go back.
Or have not remembered correctly.0 -
Portsmouth seem to get outbid for most players, both last season and this.Scoham said:Don't expect us to be in for Colby Bishop.0 -
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We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.0 -
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The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.1 -
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.3 -
If it was the last window i imagine that budget was then spent on Aneke.Braziliance said:
Well we all know that can’t be true, TS doesn’t spend fees on players bla bla bla.supaclive said:Good news is, if we are bidding 600k on Pigott, it’s in the same region as Stocktons valuation. Can certainly see us making that flashy signing where TS gets to put on the shades and get the guitar on the go for the announcement2 -
`Just heard that we are in the final stages of agreeing terms and signing Mcdonald from Swindon, do not get to excited for them.Scoham said:4 -
I have said more than once I fully expect that the "finished" squad this window is going to have a few gaps and makeshift measures in it, to do a full scale rebuild on a L1 budget in a single window is very ambitious and frankly probably beyond our current means.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
I'm sure there's a few more ins and outs to be done and hopefully Garner will build the same sort of team spirit here he appears to have done last season but I am not expecting this squad this season to end anywhere except League One0 -
Along with Scott FraserJ BLOCK said:
If it was the last window i imagine that budget was then spent on Aneke.Braziliance said:
Well we all know that can’t be true, TS doesn’t spend fees on players bla bla bla.supaclive said:Good news is, if we are bidding 600k on Pigott, it’s in the same region as Stocktons valuation. Can certainly see us making that flashy signing where TS gets to put on the shades and get the guitar on the go for the announcement1 -
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.0 -
Garner has always played a 433 so only one striker on the pitch at a time.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.0 -
Sounds a bit too defensive for me. 2 is bigger than 1. 2 strikers = more goals.Covered_End_Lad said:Garner has always played a 433 so only one striker on the pitch at a time.8 -
What formation are you expecting us to play? Obviously we will have 3 CMs that is a given. So I assume you think we will be playing 3-5-2? Which would make Kirk, DJ and CBT defunct.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
Nah, we are clearly playing a 4-3-3. So where does this first choice striker fit?
If you mean to replace Stockley, I'd be fine with that but it's not going to happen, and if we got rid of Stockley there would be a lot of mouths frothing about Sandgaard. Stockley won't be anything but first choice and Chuks would be a waste as not the main sub of him.1
