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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Oh good god no. The whole point of this summer has been that we aren't going to spend weeks and weeks playing players out of position again. Some players who did 'reasonably well' as wing backs? Be still my beating heart. The issue isn't that there's not enough goals in Stockley or others, it's that the team had absolutely no idea of how to supply each other. Part of that was because we had wingers as wingbacks, full backs as centre backs, midfielders as defenders and sometimes midfielders as strikers. There will be more goals in players like CBT and Kirk if they actually play in their natural positions and if there's a plan for how to play football, which we sadly seemed to lack under Jackson. The goals come from an effective system, not just crowbarring players into random positions to get more strikers on the pitch, as Jackson learned to his cost.Southbank said:
Assuming his first choice is close to Sutton, there are not enough goals in that line-up, even with Payne instead of JFC. We struggled to score enough goals last season with Stockley AND Washington on the pitch at the same time, and Aneke on the bench. There is nobody in the squad with a goal scoring record anywhere near as good as Washington's. So where are the goals coming from?balham red said:
What formation are you expecting us to play? Obviously we will have 3 CMs that is a given. So I assume you think we will be playing 3-5-2? Which would make Kirk, DJ and CBT defunct.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
Nah, we are clearly playing a 4-3-3. So where does this first choice striker fit?
If you mean to replace Stockley, I'd be fine with that but it's not going to happen, and if we got rid of Stockley there would be a lot of mouths frothing about Sandgaard. Stockley won't be anything but first choice and Chuks would be a waste as not the main sub of him.
As it happnes, DJ and CBT both operated reasonably as wing backs and Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon can all play there.. But Kirk would be redundant that is true,. Given he is still pretty unproven that is no great loss.
I would play 3-5-2 with this squad because of the lack of goals in any of the possible 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 line-ups. We have 4 decent centre backs, 4 decent wing backs and 4 decent centre mids, ie plenty of choice for rotation (excluding JFC if he leaves). We just need one good extra starting striker.
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Only wishful thinking but no Scully in the Lincoln team tonight.8
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Its not surprising really, but he's being linked with a reunion at Blackpool with Appleton... Worked together last season.mart77 said:Only wishful thinking but no Scully in the Lincoln team tonight.1 -
Same/similar position to Dale?ForeverAddickted said:
Its not surprising really, but he's being linked with a reunion at Blackpool with Appleton... Worked together last season.mart77 said:Only wishful thinking but no Scully in the Lincoln team tonight.0 -
Covered_End_Lad said:
Garner has always played a 433 so only one striker on the pitch at a time.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
You need 3 forwards in the 3 up front who can score or assist goals. If our number 9 is isolated like the first 13 games of last season how are we improving, or are Jack Payne and Scot Fraser scoring ten League goals each as attacking midfielders ? Plus CBT being given an attacking role out wide on either flank as we aren't playing 3-5-2.
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Same/similar position to Dale?ForeverAddickted said:
Its not surprising really, but he's being linked with a reunion at Blackpool with Appleton... Worked together last season.mart77 said:Only wishful thinking but no Scully in the Lincoln team tonight.
I was at the Lincoln home game, forever to be known as the Gilbey two acts of madness game or the game we realized that Conor Washington could miss all 4 of his chances; I need to move on.
Without checking who was the Charlie Kirk lookalike was it Dale or Scully who was ginger but played on the right but was very left footed. The opposite of Kirk but had an effective 1st half when attacking the Covered end ?0 -
Also known as the perfect height. #justsayinHenry Irving said:5' 9"0 -
I notice Joe Powell has signed on for two more years at Burton today. I wonder if he was our back up plan for Payne?1
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Yeah interesting timing, I know Gallen is a fan of his. We may have been in for him as a plan B. Think Payne is the better of the two!2
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Please not Master Bates.4
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Ginger and potentially linked with Charlton.
Bloke is having the worst week of his life isnt he!!24 -
Steady 😉Covered End said:Please not Master Bates.0 -
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The source was Nixon, he's not known for being reliable.addick1956 said:
What happened to the Dundee United CBScoham said:
Edwards is 6 ft 5 and Bates 6 ft 4, perhaps we're looking for another big CB in the Inniss mould.0 -
Both are right footed though I believe, probably not a deal breaker but would mean exactly zero left footed defenders which would be an interesting position to be in.Scoham said:
The source was Nixon, he's not known for being reliable.addick1956 said:
What happened to the Dundee United CBScoham said:
Edwards is 6 ft 5 and Bates 6 ft 4, perhaps we're looking for another big CB in the Inniss mould.0 -
It's not an absolute must for CBs, Powell's team managed fine without one. At left back we'll either use Clayden as back up or bring one in.thenewbie said:
Both are right footed though I believe, probably not a deal breaker but would mean exactly zero left footed defenders which would be an interesting position to be in.Scoham said:
The source was Nixon, he's not known for being reliable.addick1956 said:
What happened to the Dundee United CBScoham said:
Edwards is 6 ft 5 and Bates 6 ft 4, perhaps we're looking for another big CB in the Inniss mould.0 -
now Birmingham are in the mud, any players we can get from them. Someone like Jordan Graham? (10000% not leko)3
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I agree for what it's worth, especially in the modem game where even rugged defender types are more often than not very capable on the "wrong" side anyway.Scoham said:
It's not an absolute must for CBs, Powell's team managed fine without one. At left back we'll either use Clayden as back up or bring one in.thenewbie said:
Both are right footed though I believe, probably not a deal breaker but would mean exactly zero left footed defenders which would be an interesting position to be in.Scoham said:
The source was Nixon, he's not known for being reliable.addick1956 said:
What happened to the Dundee United CBScoham said:
Edwards is 6 ft 5 and Bates 6 ft 4, perhaps we're looking for another big CB in the Inniss mould.
I'm fairly sure the focus is more on having some physical size and power in defence when Iniss inevitably breaks down after blinking too hard.1 -
Not sure on Graham, has had one decent season and didn't score a single goal last year.Red_Chester said:now Birmingham are in the mud, any players we can get from them. Someone like Jordan Graham? (10000% not leko)0 -
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I never remembered left footed CBs being a big issue back under Curbs.
If anything it was the blend he was more interested him, for example having one CB who attacked the ball and one who dropped off.6 -
We’ve had plenty of centre backs prone to dropping off. Especially late in matches vs Millwall. In fact some have been virtually narcoleptic.killerandflash said:I never remembered left footed CBs being a big issue back under Curbs.
If anything it was the blend he was more interested him, for example having one CB who attacked the ball and one who dropped off.15 -
CBT and Kirk have scored 34 goals between them in 280 league games. If they were that good this season they would score 11 goals this season, as two out of our front three. Even if Stockley has a great season and scores 20 that would be nowhere near enough to be successful.Garrymanilow said:
Oh good god no. The whole point of this summer has been that we aren't going to spend weeks and weeks playing players out of position again. Some players who did 'reasonably well' as wing backs? Be still my beating heart. The issue isn't that there's not enough goals in Stockley or others, it's that the team had absolutely no idea of how to supply each other. Part of that was because we had wingers as wingbacks, full backs as centre backs, midfielders as defenders and sometimes midfielders as strikers. There will be more goals in players like CBT and Kirk if they actually play in their natural positions and if there's a plan for how to play football, which we sadly seemed to lack under Jackson. The goals come from an effective system, not just crowbarring players into random positions to get more strikers on the pitch, as Jackson learned to his cost.Southbank said:
Assuming his first choice is close to Sutton, there are not enough goals in that line-up, even with Payne instead of JFC. We struggled to score enough goals last season with Stockley AND Washington on the pitch at the same time, and Aneke on the bench. There is nobody in the squad with a goal scoring record anywhere near as good as Washington's. So where are the goals coming from?balham red said:
What formation are you expecting us to play? Obviously we will have 3 CMs that is a given. So I assume you think we will be playing 3-5-2? Which would make Kirk, DJ and CBT defunct.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
Nah, we are clearly playing a 4-3-3. So where does this first choice striker fit?
If you mean to replace Stockley, I'd be fine with that but it's not going to happen, and if we got rid of Stockley there would be a lot of mouths frothing about Sandgaard. Stockley won't be anything but first choice and Chuks would be a waste as not the main sub of him.
As it happnes, DJ and CBT both operated reasonably as wing backs and Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon can all play there.. But Kirk would be redundant that is true,. Given he is still pretty unproven that is no great loss.
I would play 3-5-2 with this squad because of the lack of goals in any of the possible 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 line-ups. We have 4 decent centre backs, 4 decent wing backs and 4 decent centre mids, ie plenty of choice for rotation (excluding JFC if he leaves). We just need one good extra starting striker.
Is that what you want? There are simply not enough goals in a side with them and Stockley as the front three. We need another goalscorer on the pitch.10 -
This with knobs on.Garrymanilow said:
Oh good god no. The whole point of this summer has been that we aren't going to spend weeks and weeks playing players out of position again. Some players who did 'reasonably well' as wing backs? Be still my beating heart. The issue isn't that there's not enough goals in Stockley or others, it's that the team had absolutely no idea of how to supply each other. Part of that was because we had wingers as wingbacks, full backs as centre backs, midfielders as defenders and sometimes midfielders as strikers. There will be more goals in players like CBT and Kirk if they actually play in their natural positions and if there's a plan for how to play football, which we sadly seemed to lack under Jackson. The goals come from an effective system, not just crowbarring players into random positions to get more strikers on the pitch, as Jackson learned to his cost.Southbank said:
Assuming his first choice is close to Sutton, there are not enough goals in that line-up, even with Payne instead of JFC. We struggled to score enough goals last season with Stockley AND Washington on the pitch at the same time, and Aneke on the bench. There is nobody in the squad with a goal scoring record anywhere near as good as Washington's. So where are the goals coming from?balham red said:
What formation are you expecting us to play? Obviously we will have 3 CMs that is a given. So I assume you think we will be playing 3-5-2? Which would make Kirk, DJ and CBT defunct.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
Nah, we are clearly playing a 4-3-3. So where does this first choice striker fit?
If you mean to replace Stockley, I'd be fine with that but it's not going to happen, and if we got rid of Stockley there would be a lot of mouths frothing about Sandgaard. Stockley won't be anything but first choice and Chuks would be a waste as not the main sub of him.
As it happnes, DJ and CBT both operated reasonably as wing backs and Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon can all play there.. But Kirk would be redundant that is true,. Given he is still pretty unproven that is no great loss.
I would play 3-5-2 with this squad because of the lack of goals in any of the possible 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 line-ups. We have 4 decent centre backs, 4 decent wing backs and 4 decent centre mids, ie plenty of choice for rotation (excluding JFC if he leaves). We just need one good extra starting striker.3 -
Really? You've been banging on about how we need strikers and now you're agreeing with a post that says the goals will come if we play an effective system?golfaddick said:
This with knobs on.Garrymanilow said:
Oh good god no. The whole point of this summer has been that we aren't going to spend weeks and weeks playing players out of position again. Some players who did 'reasonably well' as wing backs? Be still my beating heart. The issue isn't that there's not enough goals in Stockley or others, it's that the team had absolutely no idea of how to supply each other. Part of that was because we had wingers as wingbacks, full backs as centre backs, midfielders as defenders and sometimes midfielders as strikers. There will be more goals in players like CBT and Kirk if they actually play in their natural positions and if there's a plan for how to play football, which we sadly seemed to lack under Jackson. The goals come from an effective system, not just crowbarring players into random positions to get more strikers on the pitch, as Jackson learned to his cost.Southbank said:
Assuming his first choice is close to Sutton, there are not enough goals in that line-up, even with Payne instead of JFC. We struggled to score enough goals last season with Stockley AND Washington on the pitch at the same time, and Aneke on the bench. There is nobody in the squad with a goal scoring record anywhere near as good as Washington's. So where are the goals coming from?balham red said:
What formation are you expecting us to play? Obviously we will have 3 CMs that is a given. So I assume you think we will be playing 3-5-2? Which would make Kirk, DJ and CBT defunct.Southbank said:
We need a first choice striker who can start and play 90 minutes with Stockley. Aneke is our 3rd choice striker as he will only be on the pitch for 30m per game.balham red said:
As someone wiser said earlier in the thread, if you are worrying about the 3 strikers we have not being enough for the 1 striker spot, surely the 3 wide players we have for 2 spots would be more of a concern?mendonca said:
The same will happen again if we don't get 2 forwards in to replace the 2 who have left.DubaiCAFC said:
We actually had no other choice at that pointsoapboxsam said:DubaiCAFC said:
He hasn’t developed physically yet, he is a good goal scorer, needs to work on other sides of his game, he will be in the u23s for now!carly burn said:Think Kanu might well get an opportunity early on this season and by the looks of him I reckon he'll grab it with both hands.
Our problem might be keeping hold of him after Christmas!
Mason Burstow hadn't developed physically but he still played and scored early doors despite being bullied by CB. The irony was he never looked like scoring after his move to Chelsea which took me by surprise on D day.
That being said, now Davison has gone I'm quite sure we'll get a loanee in that can be 3rd choice striker. And assumedly a loanee wide player and a loanee defender.
Nah, we are clearly playing a 4-3-3. So where does this first choice striker fit?
If you mean to replace Stockley, I'd be fine with that but it's not going to happen, and if we got rid of Stockley there would be a lot of mouths frothing about Sandgaard. Stockley won't be anything but first choice and Chuks would be a waste as not the main sub of him.
As it happnes, DJ and CBT both operated reasonably as wing backs and Egbo, Clare and Sessegnon can all play there.. But Kirk would be redundant that is true,. Given he is still pretty unproven that is no great loss.
I would play 3-5-2 with this squad because of the lack of goals in any of the possible 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 line-ups. We have 4 decent centre backs, 4 decent wing backs and 4 decent centre mids, ie plenty of choice for rotation (excluding JFC if he leaves). We just need one good extra starting striker.4 -
Only 17 followers but confident this is accurate.34
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Rules us out then based on the last two wordsScoham said:Only 17 followers but confident this is accurate.4 -
It maybe one way to stiffen up the defence.Covered End said:Please not Master Bates.2 -
David Bates was ok at Hamburg...nothing more. Not bad in the air. Had a bad injury and seems to have lost his way.0
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Oxford mentioned as being strongly interested in Lewis Bate from Leeds. Not as if we need anymore CMs but he'd have been a great addition.0
