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Match Thread: England vs Hungary 4th, Germany 7th, Italy 11th and Hungary 14th June 2022

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    lordromford said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Well that looked a penalty - Doesnt matter Kane is offside
    Is that right? I thought if you’re offside that came before the foul so it would be ruled out? I’m surprised by that. Not unhappy though. 😂
    Sorry I can see how I've confused you.

    At first I thought it looked a penalty, but then disagreed with myself as thought Kane was offside
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    I disagree with the commentators…. We’ve been the better side last 20 mins and deserve something IMO.

    Bearing in mind our players are knackered I’m quietly confident for Qatar 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    The subs have made a big difference
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Subs have certainly made a difference, particularly Grealish.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,969
    England u21 won 3-0 tonight. At least some thing to make us smile.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    DamoNorthStand said:
    I disagree with the commentators…. We’ve been the better side last 20 mins and deserve something IMO.

    Bearing in mind our players are knackered I’m quietly confident for Qatar 
    Yeah Grealish made a difference and Kane was unlucky bit to score. Overall I’d say 2-1 Germany would have been the fairest result though, just. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Is a Mugging about to happen ?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,616
    Bellingham should have just held his head. Play has to stop for a head injury. Stupid rules but there you go. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,975
    edited June 2022
    Very soft pen, not really deserved a draw but ill take it. Win against Italy and we could avoid relegation, but not holding much hope after the last two performances. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,616
    philcafc said:
    Subs have certainly made a difference, particularly Grealish.
    As I said earlier.......get players on who can run with the ball. 
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Is there such a thing as an ugly draw ?

    Bellingham so much better tonight in his tackling and passing. 
  • WK6824Nine
    WK6824Nine Posts: 571
    Jack grealish and Bowen should be starting. I was entertained, it’s just a friendly tournament not the World Cup.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Gifted a point. 

    Pretty bad display all round. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Didnt deserve anything if judging the game as a whole

    We were unlucky to come away with just a draw once Grealish and Bowen came on
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Bowen? He literally did nothing. 

    Grealish was good but Bowen touched the ball about 4 times in total and did nothing. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Kane ain’t offside from the original pass as he wasn’t part of that phase, then it took a deflection didnt it? TBH i cant keep up with the rules.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    golfaddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Going to be a big game against Hungary next week - We'll get relegated if we dont win it.
    I've not really understood all this Nations League crap.  If we get relegated do we play San Marino & Gibraltar instead of Germany & Italy...? 

    At least we might win a game or two then. 

    ForeverAddickted said:
    Going to be a big game against Hungary next week - We'll get relegated if we dont win it

    Can we start playing San Marino again;
    I miss seeing the bank clerks, Waiters, Salesmen and Firemen playing a 10 man defence and we still score half a dozen.

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    SELR_addicks said:
    Bowen? He literally did nothing. 

    Grealish was good but Bowen touched the ball about 4 times in total and did nothing. 
    Did you close your eyes when Bowen put the ball right across their goal which required a German defender to put the ball out for a corner?
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,969
    Why do people go on about Englsnd players being knackered. Have not the German players played through the European season including champions league games. Europe league games and what ever the third competition is called and there own cup games.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Bellingham is a baller and has to play instead of Phillips
    Grealish for Saka
    Foden for Sterling 
    4-3-3

    Pickford
    Chilwell/Shaw
    Maguire
    Stones 
    Trent

    Rice
    Bellingham
    Mount

    Grealish
    Kane
    Foden



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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    soapboxsam said:
    golfaddick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Going to be a big game against Hungary next week - We'll get relegated if we dont win it.
    I've not really understood all this Nations League crap.  If we get relegated do we play San Marino & Gibraltar instead of Germany & Italy...? 

    At least we might win a game or two then. 

    ForeverAddickted said:
    Going to be a big game against Hungary next week - We'll get relegated if we dont win it

    Can we start playing San Marino again;
    I miss seeing the bank clerks, Waiters, Salesmen and Firemen playing a 10 man defence and we still score half a dozen.

    We will do when Euro 2024 qualifying comes around
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Bowen? He literally did nothing. 

    Grealish was good but Bowen touched the ball about 4 times in total and did nothing. 
    Did you close your eyes when Bowen put the ball right across their goal which required a German defender to put the ball out for a corner?
    You know what hes like when it comes to england
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    ValleyGary said:
    Kane ain’t offside from the original pass as he wasn’t part of that phase, then it took a deflection didnt it? TBH i cant keep up with the rules.
    That baffles me then... Ball comes in and Kane's leg is beyond the last German Defender, surely means he has an unfair advantage on their defence when running on to that ball into the box
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Bowen? He literally did nothing. 

    Grealish was good but Bowen touched the ball about 4 times in total and did nothing. 
    Did you close your eyes when Bowen put the ball right across their goal which required a German defender to put the ball out for a corner?
    He was on for 15 minutes. 

    One cross that was dealt with fairly easily is doing nothing in my eyes. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    edited June 2022
    Bowen wasn’t great. Grealish changed the game….. So much reliant on how much game time Pep gives him in August. If he can start more for Man City, then it could make all the difference.

    It does seem Gareth views him as a last 30 mins player. 

    If you have him and Kane - then you need to pair with a Sterling or Foden for some pure pace.

    In a 4-3-3 I would go for:

    Bellingham Rice Mount

    Foden Kane Grealish 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    SELR_addicks said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Bowen? He literally did nothing. 

    Grealish was good but Bowen touched the ball about 4 times in total and did nothing. 
    Did you close your eyes when Bowen put the ball right across their goal which required a German defender to put the ball out for a corner?
    He was on for 15 minutes. 

    One cross that was dealt with fairly easily is doing nothing in my eyes. 
    Do you know what the word "nothing" means?
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Thought we were awful until Grelish came on. Lucky pen in my opinion, Pickford spends too much time showboating, his kicking tonight was shit. Lucky draw..end of.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    supaclive said:
    Bellingham is a baller and has to play instead of Phillips
    Grealish for Saka
    Foden for Sterling 
    4-3-3

    Pickford
    Chilwell/Shaw
    Maguire
    Stones 
    Trent

    Rice
    Bellingham
    Mount

    Grealish
    Kane
    Foden



    Would swap Trent for James IMO. Or even Walker.

    Trent can’t play right of a 4 with those players around him for England. Not like Liverpool and 65pc possession.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited June 2022
    ValleyGary said:
    Kane ain’t offside from the original pass as he wasn’t part of that phase, then it took a deflection didnt it? TBH i cant keep up with the rules.

    He was in an off side position but the ball came off a German defender playing Kane on side.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    soapboxsam said:
    ValleyGary said:
    Kane ain’t offside from the original pass as he wasn’t part of that phase, then it took a deflection didnt it? TBH i cant keep up with the rules.

    He was in an off side position but the ball came off a German defender playing Kane on side.
    Was it intentional though? As isn't that the rule now? 

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