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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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I like TS and appreciate everything he has done for the club, but If we are really haggling over 10s of thousands of pounds and that is the hold up we are in trouble and he needs to get a grip3
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Wow.Themightyath2 said:
I'll have a wager with you now that we finish above Fleetwood...J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.
How amazing would that be.2 -
balham red said:
No need for you to keep stirring the pot now you're not selling your magazines but you still do it?Airman Brown said:
In which case you'll presumably agree there was no need for TS/RM to rubbish the stories in the media?balham red said:
As always, it's not a huge conspiracy, just charlton busy bodies whinging while it's in process and Garner has already input his thoughts into recruitment with Gallen and we've been working on that simultaneously.Redrobo said:
I thought it was all done when Cawley said it was?balham red said:
Interesting because that is what Conor is also saying:Clem_Snide said:My mate is getting bored with me asking questions, but got the following this AM. Sounds like the imminent word could be appropriate.Sandergaard is in the country so it should be announced soon. As before. Garner is a done deal and they are dotting I's and crossing t's on the other two. Compo debate on going but not miles apart.
Drama queens a plenty in our fanbase.
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What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.0 -
BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.
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Good recruitment takes ages. The common assumption is we started the "summer of Powell" recruitment in March........BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.1 -
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHJamesSeed said:
It’s probable that we’ve got our man, and he’s working behind the scenes before it’s announced. It’s also possible we have signings ready to go when the window opens. Garner could well have had a hand in recruitment as he probably ‘signed’ a couple of weeks ago.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.While we’d all have liked it to be announced as well, I don’t think it’s the big disaster some feel it is.
Yes, for football insiders a few eyebrows may have been raised about the optics/coms, which is a shame.
The window hasn’t stopped plenty of other clubs announcing signings, the date it opens is irrelevant.8 -
Is it? Maybe I’ve missed it, genuinely, but I’ve not seen assume we’re going to sign what 16 players?Cafc43v3r said:
Good recruitment takes ages. The common assumption is we started the "summer of Powell" recruitment in March........BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.0 -
This is what I mean about not getting too het up. I’m not too bothered about when the announcements are made, so long as the signings are decent. Would be nice to hear something this week of course, but next week would be ok too. The players aren’t back from their hols yet, so I’m ok with it.Scoham said:
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHJamesSeed said:
It’s probable that we’ve got our man, and he’s working behind the scenes before it’s announced. It’s also possible we have signings ready to go when the window opens. Garner could well have had a hand in recruitment as he probably ‘signed’ a couple of weeks ago.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.While we’d all have liked it to be announced as well, I don’t think it’s the big disaster some feel it is.
Yes, for football insiders a few eyebrows may have been raised about the optics/coms, which is a shame.
The window hasn’t stopped plenty of other clubs announcing signings, the date it opens is irrelevant.1 -
It would be bloody amazing if they finished runners up.blackpool72 said:
Wow.Themightyath2 said:
I'll have a wager with you now that we finish above Fleetwood...J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.
How amazing would that be.2 -
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Can’t sign anywhere near that without selling a load. I think we’ll only get about 6 permsBR7_addick said:
Is it? Maybe I’ve missed it, genuinely, but I’ve not seen assume we’re going to sign what 16 players?Cafc43v3r said:
Good recruitment takes ages. The common assumption is we started the "summer of Powell" recruitment in March........BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.0 -
JamesSeed said:
This is what I mean about not getting too het up. I’m not too bothered about when the announcements are made, so long as the signings are decent. Would be nice to hear something this week of course, but next week would be ok too. The players aren’t back from their hols yet, so I’m ok with it.Scoham said:
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHJamesSeed said:
It’s probable that we’ve got our man, and he’s working behind the scenes before it’s announced. It’s also possible we have signings ready to go when the window opens. Garner could well have had a hand in recruitment as he probably ‘signed’ a couple of weeks ago.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.While we’d all have liked it to be announced as well, I don’t think it’s the big disaster some feel it is.
Yes, for football insiders a few eyebrows may have been raised about the optics/coms, which is a shame.
The window hasn’t stopped plenty of other clubs announcing signings, the date it opens is irrelevant.
I am sure we said the same thing last summer..... and the summer before that..... its like Groundhog Day. Being urged to stay calm up until 10pm on deadline day. Before we slowly realise we didnt do anything close to enough to compete.3 -
Don’t worry about what you can’t control..10
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Where is @RonnieMoore when you need him?!2
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Do you know that……if not what’s the point of saying it?sam3110 said:
I doubt he has much sayRedhenry said:Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO
Sorry, but that’s just another classically unfounded comment slagging off (I assume) TS without justification.
Just a sly, needless dig if you ask me! 🤨1 -
🤔🤞Swisdom said:
Since then the rest of the teams seasons have finished. EVERYONE in football has gone away. Pre season starts up again in a fortnight. The recruitment team have continued working.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.We haven’t missed out on anything particularly excitingIt’s not exactly unheard of. Not perfect but not as outlandish as you might think
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I think the main thing to ask yourself is, do you spend too much time on the Internet?5
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I don't care for any other club, just this one. For the job we needed to do before the end of the season, I didn't think we had plenty of time. Looks like another wasted season. Unless there is around 12 rabbits about to be pulled from a hat!BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.
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It’s been a bit of a shambles regarding the announcement I see.
Evidently Garner told the players straight after the Port Vale loss. Ben Chorley I believe will go to Orient and join Wellens again (would love him back but just can’t see it) - he was the DOF. Fall out with one of the Directors thus surprised he wasn’t gone a few months back.
As for Garner a bit of a gamble, not the most courageous or strong Manager and only plays one way. He has done well though with the challenges he had to deal with. Hope he does well for you, all about possession based football and his strengths with young players. Not so sure how he would handle more experienced players but he did manage McKirdy so must have something. Let’s players have slack.
Main criticism I have with him is his inability to make changes. However at Swindon you could argue this was limited from the bench.
The backroom guys are good in my opinion and decent references from the players.
It’s stability we need right now thus could be a challenge for us but I have heard we already have appointed the new head coach (Manager) just a case of Charlton announcing Garner officially.
This is a gamble for Charlton (ex Palace) links, he was a disaster at Rovers but did well at Swindon. Not an outpouring of grief from our side but the expectation is all about the replacement. Unfortunately I think our fans may be a little underwhelmed when the appointment is made.
Davison unbelievable missing that spot kick, wouldn’t be surprised if we see him again, although we could do better. He works very hard but just not a natural finisher.
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I’ll get back to you on that one 😉.ElfsborgAddick said:Where is @RonnieMoore when you need him?!1 -
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cabbles said:
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This long and continued drawn out saga to sign a new manager has really dented my trust is TS, especially as I think back to the start of last season when we recruited Adkins and TS stated in the background we are always identifying our next potential manager - hmm that didn’t happen with JJ and now TS had identified to get rid of JJ without having a succession plan - echos cries of lies and as loyal Charlton fans we will not
have our trust tested to the brink especially after all circus 🎪 of owners we have had in the recent past - IF YOU ARE LISTENING SANDGAARD - DO NOT PUSH US !
you've been warned
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On holiday in Plymouth.ElfsborgAddick said:Where is @RonnieMoore when you need him?!7 -
No it's not, both Adkins and JJ didn't have much say either, not really, they went to SG with a profile of a player, he came back with a list, they gave him that list back in order of priority and Gallen went and tried to sign them.SoundAsa£ said:
Do you know that……if not what’s the point of saying it?sam3110 said:
I doubt he has much sayRedhenry said:Doubt Garner will sign any of those.. IMHO
Sorry, but that’s just another classically unfounded comment slagging off (I assume) TS without justification.
Just a sly, needless dig if you ask me! 🤨
Being given a list of, let's say, 5 players, that someone else has identified, and putting them in order, and then letting the same guy go and negotiate with clubs, agents and the player, isn't having much say is it? Maybe they can go to Gallen and bypass all of that and go "remember Joe Bloggs who played well against us for Northern Twats FC? I want to sign him" and he goes off and tries, but from what the managers and Gallen have said in recent years, that's not the general way we go about our recruitment process.0 -
Maybe he was still interviewing / keeping options open whilst the final negotiations continued with Swindon ?Airman Brown said:
Again, Cawley's story is accurate. TS then claimed he was "still interviewing".Redmidland said:
Really @Airman Brown ! You're right to say the media don't work for TS, but viz a vie, TS has the right to deny a deal has been done, if indeed all the paperwork, comp, etc has not been signed. Works both ways, or are you saying if its published in the press it must be 100% true?Airman Brown said:
Perhaps he does, but it isn't up to him. The media doesn't work for him and doesn't take his instructions. Neither should it.Addick Addict said:We sack Adkins (and have to pay him off) and then JJ who, in a matter of days, gets another job (but there is no compo due). We then have to wait weeks and weeks to get someone we want as his replacement with the issue being the level of compo.
Perhaps it is the cost of and lack of return for our most recent managers that irks the businessman that is TS and explains his reluctance to pay what Swindon demand. And why he rubbishes the story released by journos that we have signed Garner because he wants the deal done on his terms and until that happens he doesn't want anyone else announcing it.
As I said on my one and only previous post on this thread, if, technically, nothing had been signed then the deal is not done!
Bit like when a house is sold....a big SOLD sign goes up...in the small print underneath it nearly always says Subject to contract.
Crawley has the right to publish what he knows, but he may not have known about any sticking points. It simple really!
If people think a compensation negotiation about two second-tier employees is about hundreds of thousands then fair enough, but from their status and my knowledge of TS's other staffing negotiations I'd say it is more likely to be about tens of thousands and that doesn't justify taking two weeks to resolve, still less voiding the whole deal and starting again.
in other words he may have been playing others along until all the i’s were dotted and t’s crossed etc.2 -
You can sell a load? I usually just flush mine.cafcfan1990 said:
Can’t sign anywhere near that without selling a load. I think we’ll only get about 6 permsBR7_addick said:
Is it? Maybe I’ve missed it, genuinely, but I’ve not seen assume we’re going to sign what 16 players?Cafc43v3r said:
Good recruitment takes ages. The common assumption is we started the "summer of Powell" recruitment in March........BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.0 -
At the photoshoot with TS, MS , Garner, the 2 coaches, Marquis and Bostock.ElfsborgAddick said:Where is @RonnieMoore when you need him?!0 -
cafcfan1990 said:
Can’t sign anywhere near that without selling a load. I think we’ll only get about 6 permsBR7_addick said:
Is it? Maybe I’ve missed it, genuinely, but I’ve not seen assume we’re going to sign what 16 players?Cafc43v3r said:
Good recruitment takes ages. The common assumption is we started the "summer of Powell" recruitment in March........BR7_addick said:
What so any side who hasn’t made a signing at this point doesn’t have much time?Willo said:
Plenty?BR7_addick said:
Fair point but that’s where we’ll probably disagree. Im not saying he will get it right I'm saying there is plenty of time and chances to get it right.arny23394 said:
I dunno mate, 7 & a half weeks until the first game of the season doesn’t seem like a lot of time when we need 7/8 players for the first xi + x amount as squad players.BR7_addick said:
I get all that but you know full well we have a plan as at today, they’re obviously cross t’s and dotting i’s. I get all the frustration and I’m with you, but I think some are getting too panicked, there’s so so much time to get this summer right, the players aren’t even in the building.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.I’ll fully agree with you “if” we end up with a shit squad and are looking at deadbeats come midnight deadline day. But for now I’m happy to see if he’s leant from last season.
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Sandgaard has said that some new signings will be going out to Spain with the rest of the squad.JamesSeed said:
This is what I mean about not getting too het up. I’m not too bothered about when the announcements are made, so long as the signings are decent. Would be nice to hear something this week of course, but next week would be ok too. The players aren’t back from their hols yet, so I’m ok with it.Scoham said:
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHJamesSeed said:
It’s probable that we’ve got our man, and he’s working behind the scenes before it’s announced. It’s also possible we have signings ready to go when the window opens. Garner could well have had a hand in recruitment as he probably ‘signed’ a couple of weeks ago.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.While we’d all have liked it to be announced as well, I don’t think it’s the big disaster some feel it is.
Yes, for football insiders a few eyebrows may have been raised about the optics/coms, which is a shame.
The window hasn’t stopped plenty of other clubs announcing signings, the date it opens is irrelevant.
And he always tells the truth.3 -
No mate, I won’t be calm if we haven’t made some signings quite soon, let alone near deadline day.DamoNorthStand said:JamesSeed said:
This is what I mean about not getting too het up. I’m not too bothered about when the announcements are made, so long as the signings are decent. Would be nice to hear something this week of course, but next week would be ok too. The players aren’t back from their hols yet, so I’m ok with it.Scoham said:
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHJamesSeed said:
It’s probable that we’ve got our man, and he’s working behind the scenes before it’s announced. It’s also possible we have signings ready to go when the window opens. Garner could well have had a hand in recruitment as he probably ‘signed’ a couple of weeks ago.J BLOCK said:
Because we fucked up last season due to our inactivity all summer and lack of preparation. Jackson has been sacked nearly 5 weeks ago, seemingly without any sort of succession plan as we still have no manager on June 7th.BR7_addick said:
Why though? What’s wrong with negotiating a deal to suit us as well as them, if I could drag the purchase of something expensive out to save a few quid I probably would, it’s not critical right now, I’ll admit I was nervous but I don’t see why haggling over compensation makes us incompetent.J BLOCK said:
Doesn't take a semi competent league one club 5 weeks to appoint a manager, in the off season.BR7_addick said:
I’m defending or attacking it, it’s just a little surprising to me, but if his tactic is to make sure it’s the absolute right one then so be it.J BLOCK said:
Nearly 5 weeks, and people defend it. Total circus.BR7_addick said:I’m not trying to make an impatient point here but if you’d of told me this time last month Jackson will make his first signing in a new job before we named his successor I wouldn't of believed it.
Since Jackson has left, he's gone on holiday, interviewed for / got a new job, and made his first signing.
Fleetwood sacked their manager May 4th, they have a new manager in place and have already made their first signing.While we’d all have liked it to be announced as well, I don’t think it’s the big disaster some feel it is.
Yes, for football insiders a few eyebrows may have been raised about the optics/coms, which is a shame.
The window hasn’t stopped plenty of other clubs announcing signings, the date it opens is irrelevant.
I am sure we said the same thing last summer..... and the summer before that..... its like Groundhog Day. Being urged to stay calm up until 10pm on deadline day. Before we slowly realise we didnt do anything close to enough to compete.My calm isn’t a permanent state of mind, but I’m nursing raised blood pressure here.0
