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Ben Garner - Jan 2026 pointed assistant 1st team coach at Southampton (p285)

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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,491
    He has Palace roots (if you are emotionally able to process this truth!).
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    mendonca said:
    He has Palace roots (if you are emotionally able to process this truth!).
    That’s why his hair fell out
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    CAFCTrev said:
    I stand by my opinion that Garner is a good manager & tries to play good football, but he doesn't have the players to play the way he wants.

    Right now it's about getting results.  He needs to find a system that suits the player's he's got, not the players he wants. 
    ...and TS isn't willing to fund the players he wants. So what happens if we are still hovering around 16th place in another months time? Garner says he needs 2 or 3 transfer windows, will he be here that long if we are struggling?
    Good players won't want to stick around for a year or two waiting for an organically grown team.

    Bids will come in and good players will be replaced by inferior ones or not at all.
  • Just saw on Amazon Prime BG at Palace match tonight. Hopefully was at the club scouting for more loan players.
    Can we have Zaha? With no VAR in L1, he'd win 30 penalties a season!
  • Huge, huge praise from me this morning for Ben Garner for being the first manager for years to take the cup seriously.

    For years I have moaned to anyone who will listen - including on here on numerous occasions - the nonsense of us not taking the cups seriously. It has been absurd that a club of our size has not thought it worthwhile to try and have a cup run or bring a big name PL club to the Valley. And the team selections have so often been a micky take out of fans paying good money to go and watch.

    I point the finger at all managers for this, even our three recent greats - Curbs (who stopped showing any interest in the cups when we got in the PL), Powell and Bowyer (whose attitude to the cups in particular stank as he couldn't even be bothered to name a full subs bench on occasion).

    Garner on the contrast has done the exact opposite, naming strong teams. He has even kept Wollacott in goal when just about every other manager has used the cups to give the reserve goalkeeper a run out. And he got his reward last night when Wollacott saved the penalty.

    Garner deserves a good draw. We deserve a good draw.  And it will be a huge pick me up for the club if we get a PL big boy at the Valley and can sell it out. The money from it might even persuade TS to open his cheque book in January and buy us a striker!   
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,622
    edited November 2022
    What I like about it is Ben has grown in to yeh job learnt from his mistakes. He’s changed formation when he has had to, stood up to chairman interviews and seems very passionate about the club, Watch him sod of to the championship now at the first given opportunity :) 
  • CH4RLTON said:
    What I like about it is Ben has grown in to yeh job learnt from his mistakes. He’s changed formation when he has had to, stood up to chairman interviews and seems very passionate about the club, Watch him sod of to the championship now at the first given opportunity :) 
    Luton look like they need a new Manager...
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,851
    Former Charlton Athletic manager and Crystal Palace first-team coach Ben Garner has been named the new head coach of the Right to Dream International Academy.
    Founded in Ghana, the Right to Dream academy aims to bridge the gap between their international academies (based in Ghana, Ivory Coast, Egypt, Denmark and the United States) and the professional game.
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/former-charlton-manager-and-crystal-palace-first-team-coach-lands-new-management-role/
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,803
    Guess they wanted someone with managerial experience but not who I'd have gone for

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,371
    Garner is first team ASSISTANT coach. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 29,078
    Garner is first team ASSISTANT coach. 
    Assistant to the coach?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,594
    He's a good coach, so that sort of role is fine for him. The same can be said of Dean Holden.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,943
    Off_it said:
    Garner is first team ASSISTANT coach. 
    Assistant to the coach?

    If you were to ask me to name three ball playing defensive geniuses, I probably wouldn’t say Ferdinand, Stones… you know. I’d go Clare, Inniss, O’Connell. Sessegnon.

  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 27,301
    The away game on the 21st of Feb is going to have added interest now. Although Southampton might actually have some players that are actually able to pass it out of defence.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,744
    He had a good coaching career going before he became a manager. Not worked out for him in the hotseat but still well regarded as a coach 
  • Mick Beale syndrome hit him hard, good coach crap manager 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,587
    Assistant to the regional manager.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,833
    Egbo would have played under him. Seems to rate him 😂
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 13,803
    Bet he's kicking himself for taking himself out of the frame for the Utd and Celtic jobs

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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,715
    edited January 5
    I'm not gonna call him a crap manager when Martin Sandgaard was heading up our recruitment. That squad was completely hopeless. 

    I seem to remember that when he was sacked, it was felt he was quite hard done by, given the total lack of backing in the transfer market.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,579
    Garner is first team ASSISTANT coach. 

    Picking up bibs and moving the cones then.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,579
    Chunes said:
    I'm not gonna call him a crap manager when Martin Sandgaard was heading up our recruitment. That squad was completely hopeless. 

    I seem to remember that when he was sacked, it was felt he was quite hard done by, given the total lack of backing in the transfer market.

    Like Holden, he should not have been given the job in the first place.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,594
    Chunes said:
    I'm not gonna call him a crap manager when Martin Sandgaard was heading up our recruitment. That squad was completely hopeless. 

    I seem to remember that when he was sacked, it was felt he was quite hard done by, given the total lack of backing in the transfer market.
    I do have an issue with managers/head coaches who can only play one way, who need half the team changed to play their tactics. And who refuse to consider "Plan B" if it isn't working, e.g. Russell Martin.

    Garner struck gold with his Swindon side, which was full of attacking talent for L2, but his failure with us, and with Colchester, suggests that it wasn't repeatable unless he had exactly the right players. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,744
    Chunes said:
    I'm not gonna call him a crap manager when Martin Sandgaard was heading up our recruitment. That squad was completely hopeless. 

    I seem to remember that when he was sacked, it was felt he was quite hard done by, given the total lack of backing in the transfer market.
    I do have an issue with managers/head coaches who can only play one way, who need half the team changed to play their tactics. And who refuse to consider "Plan B" if it isn't working, e.g. Russell Martin.

    Garner struck gold with his Swindon side, which was full of attacking talent for L2, but his failure with us, and with Colchester, suggests that it wasn't repeatable unless he had exactly the right players. 
    Tbf with us he did actually adapt. We ended up playing a 4-4-2 and were doing quite well at one point. Then Leaburn and a few other players got injured and it all fell apart quite quickly with us having no depth due to lack of backing. In his last game he had to start Jaiyesimi up front due to lack of options which says it all. I’m not sure he’d have got us up with more backing but he was definitely unlucky that he came in at a time when Sandgaard appeared to have given up and was cutting costs ready to sell us. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,566
    Genuinely got nothing against the bloke, thought he had far more potential than the likes of Slade, Holden, Adkins etc. 

    Always thought he spoke quite well as well and he clearly has some coaching ability to produce the stats he did at Swindon and some of the possession football he played here. 

    Might sound mental, but I think he would have more luck in this league with his style over League 1 where the level of player is generally better and would be able to play his passing style.

    Will never forget him absolutely losing it on the touchline to Nathan Jones levels and galvanising the crowd. 

    Good luck Ben Garner.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,744
    Genuinely got nothing against the bloke, thought he had far more potential than the likes of Slade, Holden, Adkins etc. 

    Always thought he spoke quite well as well and he clearly has some coaching ability to produce the stats he did at Swindon and some of the possession football he played here. 

    Might sound mental, but I think he would have more luck in this league with his style over League 1 where the level of player is generally better and would be able to play his passing style.

    Will never forget him absolutely losing it on the touchline to Nathan Jones levels and galvanising the crowd. 

    Good luck Ben Garner.
    That kind of style can get you up but it can’t keep you up unless you’ve got a super budget. Mousinho took Pompey up playing that way in league 1, but had to adapt after struggling in the championship. You get better players to work with in the championship but so does every other team