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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Ben Garnercabbles said:
I’m not sure @seth plum is too familiar with Snow’s repertoire, but it would be good for him to give it a gobuckshee said:I won’t rest happy until someone makes a song up for next season for Ben Garner using the classic Informer by Snow as the backing.
Bididily dididly boom boom
Ben Garner
Itchy bum bum
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I've just looked that up and it looks quite good, but I can't see the comparison with golfie and I.Cafc43v3r said:
It's like behind her eyes.......LargeAddick said:have @golfaddick and @jimmymelrose morphed into one?
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I thought they deserved more in the first home leg but were a tad disapointing in the second leg.PemburyAddick said:
I'm Spartacus!LargeAddick said:
So which one is @PemburyAddick?soapboxsam said:Fun fact:
Both Ben Garner and Jonny Williams were born in Pembury in Kent.
Not a lot of people know that.
But you are missing the big question - did they drink in the Camden or Black Horse?
I watched Swindon in the Play Off semis and liked what I saw. Garner's demeanour was professional and calm (at contrast to the Vale manager), and the CBs tried to play it out when they could. Jonny and McKirdy gave them an entertaining but lightweight look, but given the recruitment constraints Garner was under he probably didn't have many options. I'm happy with the appointment but he needs to be backed to get the right players in.
And then may be a celebration pint or ten at the Black Horse and Camden..0 -
It wouldn't have been a big gamble to back Lee Bowyer in the first place.Kindoncasella said:
who wouldnt have been a big gamble?grumpyaddick said:Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.
Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.1 -
ButtleJR on page 139 said that TS had denied the Ben Garner appointment. It’s in the thread title mateTodds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..Todds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..0 -
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not denied just said that interviews were still ongoing.Braziliance said:
ButtleJR on page 139 said that TS had denied the Ben Garner appointment. It’s in the thread title mateTodds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..Todds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..2 -
Why doesn't he deny it officially rather than tell a few fans? I mean, it is out there now. If this is true we jump from one hole into another!0
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Might have to meet you at the Horse, I’m in Pembury tooPemburyAddick said:
I'm Spartacus!LargeAddick said:
So which one is @PemburyAddick?soapboxsam said:Fun fact:
Both Ben Garner and Jonny Williams were born in Pembury in Kent.
Not a lot of people know that.
But you are missing the big question - did they drink in the Camden or Black Horse?
I watched Swindon in the Play Off semis and liked what I saw. Garner's demeanour was professional and calm (at contrast to the Vale manager), and the CBs tried to play it out when they could. Jonny and McKirdy gave them an entertaining but lightweight look, but given the recruitment constraints Garner was under he probably didn't have many options. I'm happy with the appointment but he needs to be backed to get the right players in.
And then may be a celebration pint or ten at the Black Horse and Camden..0 -
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On balance, Garner's appointment (assuming Cawley's post is correct) would seem to have potential.
Success will depend on how he is backed during the summer window and being left by the Sandgaard clan to get on with the job as Garner sees fit.5 -
Telling you spoil the 📖 and the 📺jimmymelrose said:
I've just looked that up and it looks quite good, but I can't see the comparison with golfie and I.Cafc43v3r said:
It's like behind her eyes.......LargeAddick said:have @golfaddick and @jimmymelrose morphed into one?0 -
I read Ronniemoires post as ts had posted on social media. OppsBraziliance said:
ButtleJR on page 139 said that TS had denied the Ben Garner appointment. It’s in the thread title mateTodds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..Todds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..0 -
That's my waistline over the last decade or soaddick1956 said:
Is 42 the new 32 or the new 22 ?Wheresmeticket? said:
Exactly - I think it was an ironic observation on the nature of empty gestures.Belv said:
How does a non-season ticket holder return a season ticket they don't have?Addick_8 said:All the non-season ticket holders on threatening to return their season tickets on Twitter is making my skin crawl.
We, as a fanbase serious need humbling
Watching and listening to the video that is doing the rounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKFHELgNFQ
and looking at his performance last season I am coming round to the "quite whelmed" position.
A young manager with some success under his belt, clearly with a brain, with a reason to want to take a difficult job in a higher league.3 -
I'd be shocked if some negative reaction on social media would affect what's going on with an announcement. Haven't seen Twitter comments myself, but we all know those who aren't happy are more likely to make their views known using such media/fans forums. They don't necessarily represent the majority thinking and TS can't please everyone, but if he thinks he can, he'll still be interviewing come preseason, stymied by indecision because he won't see a common consensus expressed on them.
Waiting for some 'no shit Sherlock' feedback to tick off my CL sayings bingo card!1 -
Except Buttle has outright posted that TS said ‘the reports are incorrect’. Which would dismiss what Cawley has said meaning we haven’t appointed Garner, so either Buttle has misread TS or TS said what he said. Take it whichever you like.Shrew said:
not denied just said that interviews were still ongoing.Braziliance said:
ButtleJR on page 139 said that TS had denied the Ben Garner appointment. It’s in the thread title mateTodds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..Todds_right_hook said:
What has ts said? I saw that ronniemoore posted a comment so I took it with a massive pinch of saltBraziliance said:
I am a big supporter of TS and been vocal about it, but if he has outright denied that Garner is our man and he becomes our manager then he has lied whichever way you wanna paint it.RonnieMoore said:
TS not lying just cooling the talk before it’s signed and sealed … he being honourable to both Swindon and GarnerBraziliance said:I don’t think Cawley would have tweeted if he was wide of the mark, either TS is lying until it’s official or we have got someone better then Garner which has caused the delay, I don’t really mind either outcome but I expect it to be the firstThe honourable thing to do would be to stay quiet until things official and not have a jolly chin wag with supporters on social media, no disrespect to the supporters who message him but it’s quite peculiar that he would share our important business like that with fans, as much as I like how vocal he is about us..Being blunt I now see why so many posts get lost in translation on here. The thread title says what page this information was shared, the posters post is on said page, I’ve then relayed that information and I’ve now been quoted twice on this information when it could be checked itself quicker than quoting me?0 -
Just noticed that one of these on the case writers just a few hours ago thinks that Washington C is still an Addick .. does he know something that we all don't ?Lincsaddick said:1 -
He resigned and joined Birmingham. If you mean before that we were limited by the salary cap (which is no longer in place).jimmymelrose said:
It wouldn't have been a big gamble to back Lee Bowyer in the first place.Kindoncasella said:
who wouldnt have been a big gamble?grumpyaddick said:Loving the faux loyalty and enthusiasm for the new coach no one had never heard of until five minutes ago but suddenly everyone now acknowledges as the next Klopp.
Big and totally unnecessary gamble from our owner if true at a time when he can't afford many more mistakes.0 -
It’s the amount of times @ElfsborgAddick has been to the bar in the last 2 months and “forgotten” his wallet.blackpool72 said:
That's my waistline over the last decade or soaddick1956 said:
Is 42 the new 32 or the new 22 ?Wheresmeticket? said:
Exactly - I think it was an ironic observation on the nature of empty gestures.Belv said:
How does a non-season ticket holder return a season ticket they don't have?Addick_8 said:All the non-season ticket holders on threatening to return their season tickets on Twitter is making my skin crawl.
We, as a fanbase serious need humbling
Watching and listening to the video that is doing the roundshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sKFHELgNFQ
and looking at his performance last season I am coming round to the "quite whelmed" position.
A young manager with some success under his belt, clearly with a brain, with a reason to want to take a difficult job in a higher league.0 -
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It is not on the official so it is reasonable to take it that it has not happened yet. It is not on the Swindon site either.MuttleyCAFC said:Why doesn't he deny it officially rather than tell a few fans? I mean, it is out there now. If this is true we jump from one hole into another!No lying. The process has just not finished yet is all that is being said.3 -
Clicked on this & actually got a different video that featured the owner amongst others. He said that he deals with the business side & leaves the football side of the club to the experts. I look forward to the day that we have an owner with the same outlook.The Red Robin said:1 -
Have you seen the messages?Redrobo said:
It is not on the official so it is reasonable to take it that it has not happened yet. It is not on the Swindon site either.MuttleyCAFC said:Why doesn't he deny it officially rather than tell a few fans? I mean, it is out there now. If this is true we jump from one hole into another!No lying. The process has just not finished yet is all that is being said.2 -
Thinking about it Cawley covers all the other South London and Surrey sides so has contacts within the selhurst club
So he may well know Garner already or have a very good link to him.
So his source may not be Swindon or Charlton but the horse itself.4 -
So have we built up a coherent picture of what’ the hell is going on?1
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MuttleyCAFC said:I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.0 -
Not sure if this is covered by what you say but on our POTY podcast he told me that he has set a target for “10% more intensity” in trainingJac_52 said:MuttleyCAFC said:I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
“There are better facilities now at the training ground. We already have our medical and sports science team and I’m demanding next season that our training has to have a minimum of 10 per cent more intensity so we train at a minimum level we see in the Championship. It’s all around we’re improving.“
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No idea what's going on but having read too many posts have gone from feeling totally underwhelmed to believing Garner is the second coming of Christ. Finally settled for somewhere between the two.
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😬LouisMend said:
Not sure if this is covered by what you say but on our POTY podcast he told me that he has set a target for “10% more intensity” in trainingJac_52 said:MuttleyCAFC said:I haven't got an issue with the owner suggesting the style of football he wants to see us play and promising to back the manager in getting the players needed to achieve it. It becomes more worrying when it gets like Roland explaining football tactics to a manager who is an ex England international. If Sandgaard thinks he has discovered the secret of success in terms of a playing style it is worrying in the extreme. There are many different paths but his backing is needed. With limited resources the approach has to always be a pragmatic one based on what you have and how your best players play.
The problem is, I don't know which of these is correct and I doubt many of us do. There are lingering doubts about Sandgaard based on genuine clues. I would say not yet definitive but that in itself is worrying. And we should be open to this possibility.
I agree with this. The turning point for me would be if Sandgaard is issuing Roland-esque emails or trying to dictate how training sessions should go.
Currently I have no reason to think that this is the case and if anyone knows differently then they should be making it public very very quickly. Until then we have to accept that there is nothing wrong with an owner wanting a certain type of football and finding the staff to implement it.
“There are better facilities now at the training ground. We already have our medical and sports science team and I’m demanding next season that our training has to have a minimum of 10 per cent more intensity so we train at a minimum level we see in the Championship. It’s all around we’re improving.“0
