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Next manager - Ben Garner confirmed (p256)
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Let’s hope they are finalising someone. Bolton and Ipswich already signing players and if we want promotion next season, they’re likely to be two competitors or at least two other ‘big’ clubs in our division that will be looking at similar players to us.0
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Remember US time difference 10pm uk was 3pm Colorado.Redrobo said:
It would also suggest to me that they were not far from reaching an agreement or they would have packed up and started again in the morning.Dazzler21 said:
The word 'negotiating' certainly makes me feel they have offered to someone.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.0 -
You're absolutely right. Plus apparently TS has said that all applicants have to play him on guitar hero, and he gets to slap them with a full salmon if he wins.billysboots said:Think the pool we are fishing in is
Out of work or lower league managers.
Can’t see anyone coming from a good club with TS calling all the shots. Not enough football DNA involved in football decisions.
Get a grip ffs.7 -
That's just a reason for Option 3 rather than a separate option, but I agree. The club has x squad places and a budget of y. The new manager should obviously have a big input on who we get in within those constraints, but I see no reason to release players if the consensus within the recruitment team (hopefully with input from coaches) is that we can do better given whatever the values of x and y are.Covered_End_Lad said:
Option 4 - The club want to aim higher than Conor and don't want to waste a squad place and wages on him?randy andy said:
I think Conor was the only surprise. The others were almost certainly going to be released no matter who the manager was.thetomahawkkid said:
...But someone other than a the new manager has already made decisions as to who to extend and who to release. That all has implications and limitations as to who a new manager can sign to build his squad.ButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.
Conor being released leads to 3 possible conclusions:
1) The club and player were too far away on the any possible deal, meaning the a contract wouldn't be agreed no matter who the manager
2) A new manager has been identified and has said he doesn't want Conor
3) The club has decided to get rid
Option 3 is the only possibly negative scenario, and then only if there isn't the budget/recruitment to get a a better alternative in.0 -
I see Rob Edwards the forest Green manager now in advanced talks to become new Watford Manager.6
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Surely if the club and coaches believe we can do better then that is exactly the reason to release players, no?randy andy said:
That's just a reason for Option 3 rather than a separate option, but I agree. The club has x squad places and a budget of y. The new manager should obviously have a big input on who we get in within those constraints, but I see no reason to release players if the consensus within the recruitment team (hopefully with input from coaches) is that we can do better given whatever the values of x and y are.Covered_End_Lad said:
Option 4 - The club want to aim higher than Conor and don't want to waste a squad place and wages on him?randy andy said:
I think Conor was the only surprise. The others were almost certainly going to be released no matter who the manager was.thetomahawkkid said:
...But someone other than a the new manager has already made decisions as to who to extend and who to release. That all has implications and limitations as to who a new manager can sign to build his squad.ButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.
Conor being released leads to 3 possible conclusions:
1) The club and player were too far away on the any possible deal, meaning the a contract wouldn't be agreed no matter who the manager
2) A new manager has been identified and has said he doesn't want Conor
3) The club has decided to get rid
Option 3 is the only possibly negative scenario, and then only if there isn't the budget/recruitment to get a a better alternative in.0 -
Like it or not, that’s the kind of club we’re competing with for a new manager. Birmingham look they’ve got Warburton as well.charltonman2016 said:I see Rob Edwards the forest Green manager now in advanced talks to become new Watford Manager.0 -
Birmingham coach Mark Kennedy and Michael Carrick favs for Lincoln job ..0
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Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.3 -
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.2 -
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charltonman2016 said:I see Rob Edwards the forest Green manager now in advanced talks to become new Watford Manager.
The mad fool !
He will last two seasons: Summer and Autumn before he loses two games on the bounce and Watford slip down to third, he gets the tin-tac and realizes that it was definitely greener at Forest Green.5 -
Steve Keane's record at Melbourne Victory season 20-21 was terrible. He is down on record as being a manager. as well as C T manager, I think Grant Brebner (ex Victory player) was the last manager They got the wooden spoon, Victorie's worst ever season Cross town rivals City bet then 6--0 and 7--0 in this season. Tony Popovic then took over, for the current season.After a very average start they finished second to City whome they beat 3--0 a month ago.On a record run of 15 undefeated,Likely to be in the play off Grand FinalCallumcafc said:I think Steve Kean got an unnecessarily bad rap while at Blackburn... having said that his CV since isn't exactly inspiring.
Blackburn 2010-12
DPMM FC (Brunei) 2013-17
Brunei National Team 2014
OFI Crete 2019-20 (technical director)
Melbourne Victory 2020-21 (assistant & caretaker)
Hibs 2021- (academy director)0 -
Interviewing and negotiating are two very different things. Are they negotiating with a candidate or are they still interviewing multiple candidates?ButtleJR said:
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.1 -
Highly doubt Steve Keane is a serious candidate. Probably just his agent.0
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Could be negotiating with their preferred candidate whilst still interviewing others if those negotiations don't work out?The Red Robin said:
Interviewing and negotiating are two very different things. Are they negotiating with a candidate or are they still interviewing multiple candidates?ButtleJR said:
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.7 -
Katie Price?The Red Robin said:
Sound a lovely coupleCafc43v3r said:
Yep.The Red Robin said:
Same wife that accused him of assault I assume.Cafc43v3r said:
He was knobbing Ferguson's ex wife.The Red Robin said:
No idea what you’re talking about there 😂Cafc43v3r said:
Be interesting if Darren Bent was on CATV......The Red Robin said:Ferguson is appealing for League One. Strange how it’s never worked out for him in The Championship, not just with The Posh, but Preston as well. Not so sure about some off his off-field allegations.
The same one that keeps getting arrested for driving while coked off her tits as well.0 -
This is how I see it.Covered_End_Lad said:
Could be negotiating with their preferred candidate whilst still interviewing others if those negotiations don't work out?The Red Robin said:
Interviewing and negotiating are two very different things. Are they negotiating with a candidate or are they still interviewing multiple candidates?ButtleJR said:
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.4 -
Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.19
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@ButtleJR as you had the connection with Thomas Sandgaard from early doors in his tenure I find it interesting to hear what you say whether you're the messenger or if you are joining the dots from what information you accrue.
It makes sense to get the new manager in ASAP as we have Season tickets to sell and players to join the club so the new gang of four can get to work: Thomas and Martin Sandgaard, Steve Gallen and the new manager who will hopefully inspire fans and critics to buy season tickets or at least not give up on the "project".
I assume your dad gets his info from you, (he said he did last season) so I wonder if you can say why Stockley won't be here next season as it will be news to Jayden ! Your dad have said it a couple of times and I wondered who is behind this story ?0 -
Not very far championship finished last weekend and the prem another two weeks to go … would expect Warburton would want to get away for a few weeks and AV won’t let anyone talk to Beale till season overCovered_End_Lad said:Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.0 -
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TrueCovered_End_Lad said:
Could be negotiating with their preferred candidate whilst still interviewing others if those negotiations don't work out?The Red Robin said:
Interviewing and negotiating are two very different things. Are they negotiating with a candidate or are they still interviewing multiple candidates?ButtleJR said:
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.
ThanksButtleJR said:
This is how I see it.Covered_End_Lad said:
Could be negotiating with their preferred candidate whilst still interviewing others if those negotiations don't work out?The Red Robin said:
Interviewing and negotiating are two very different things. Are they negotiating with a candidate or are they still interviewing multiple candidates?ButtleJR said:
Sorry if I phrased that poorly, they had not finished the interviewing/negotiating process as of 10pm last night, suggesting that both were ongoing. And you can trust that it's true.RedJohn said:
Can I ask how you know they were interviewing last night, hope its true, need someone in ASAP.ButtleJR said:
They were still negotiating/interviewing as of 10pmish last night. So presume they have a top choice.DA9 said:
I agree, Unless of course a new manager is lined up already, but not officially allowed to announce due to contractual issues, if so, he could have already have run the rule 👀over any MS/JJ/SG suggestionsButtleJR said:
Unlikely any players will be signed before the new manager is announced.carly burn said:
If a raft of signings show up before the New manager then it's time to be very concerned.rikofold said:
More to the point, why would any experienced manager come when TS had made quite clear the recruitment of the squad has little or nothing to do with them?carly burn said:Really can't see Warburton coming.
From what I've seen his stock is still pretty high and many think he was harshly treated by QPR.
No way he'd come to this nut house.2 -
I hope this is just newspaper gossip I am sure it was he Or he with Grant Brebner who gave Melbourne Victory thier worst ever season last year gaining the wooden spoon. Beaten 6-0 and 7-0 by cross town rivals City. Fast forward to Victorycurrent standing with Tony Popovic at the helm.A record 15 matches undefeated Second in the table and i HATE to say it may just win the play off final--Popovic is one hundred percent better than S K If only the likes of TS can see itse9addick said:Not sure if this has already been reported & hopefully bollocks, but Steve Kean being linked by the Scottish media
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-kean-charlton-shortlist-hibs-26873149
His managerial record
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So, leave it till mid June..that don't make sense, surely they would sort it out before any holidays..RonnieMoore said:
Not very far championship finished last weekend and the prem another two weeks to go … would expect Warburton would want to get away for a few weeks and AV won’t let anyone talk to Beale till season overCovered_End_Lad said:Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.1 -
How can you be so sure?RonnieMoore said:
Not very far championship finished last weekend and the prem another two weeks to go … would expect Warburton would want to get away for a few weeks and AV won’t let anyone talk to Beale till season overCovered_End_Lad said:Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.2 -
Sounds like Warburton is about to take the Birmingham job.RonnieMoore said:
Not very far championship finished last weekend and the prem another two weeks to go … would expect Warburton would want to get away for a few weeks and AV won’t let anyone talk to Beale till season overCovered_End_Lad said:Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.0 -
I’d wanna sort my next job out before going on holiday or leaving my current one.ButtleJR said:
How can you be so sure?RonnieMoore said:
Not very far championship finished last weekend and the prem another two weeks to go … would expect Warburton would want to get away for a few weeks and AV won’t let anyone talk to Beale till season overCovered_End_Lad said:Warburton and Beale were both high on our list, no idea how far they have got with either of them.4 -
So who is he having talks with, the current owners or the new (possible) owners? Why would the current owners sack Bowyer & pay out compensation if you've got a new crowd coming in ? it doesn't make sense.MarcusH26 said:Could be rubbish but Warburton apparently in talks with Birmingham2 -
Maybe it’s all the new ownerscharltonbob said:
So who is he having talks with, the current owners or the new (possible) owners? Why would the current owners sack Bowyer & pay out compensation if you've got a new crowd coming in ? it doesn't make sense.MarcusH26 said:Could be rubbish but Warburton apparently in talks with Birmingham0 -
Right hand don't know what the left hand is doing...they are in advanced talks apparently with Warburton, and yet they haven't sacked Bowyer yet, maybe our old mate Mouthall is involved, that would explain a lot...charltonbob said:
So who is he having talks with, the current owners or the new (possible) owners? Why would the current owners sack Bowyer & pay out compensation if you've got a new crowd coming in ? it doesn't make sense.MarcusH26 said:Could be rubbish but Warburton apparently in talks with Birmingham
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Is it legal to interview for a job where there is someone already in place?charltonbob said:
So who is he having talks with, the current owners or the new (possible) owners? Why would the current owners sack Bowyer & pay out compensation if you've got a new crowd coming in ? it doesn't make sense.MarcusH26 said:Could be rubbish but Warburton apparently in talks with Birmingham2
