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JOHNNIE JACKSON - managed AFC Wimbledon to 2025 League 2 Play-off Final victory(p46)
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To be honest, if I'd finished work ahead of going on a break and I was asked to come in just so I could be told I was getting sacked I'd be pretty pissed off. If I'm getting off my sofa on a day off it had better be worth it!Addick_8 said:Don't I entirely agree with him being told over the phone If I am honest. I think he deserved a little more than that after 12 years.
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glad I had decided not to bother renewing for next season
can see another summer of shit loans and journeymen.
my tuppence worth is sandgard massively underestimated what was involved when taking over at the club10 -
Spot on , Steve.blackpool72 said:
What he should of done months ago was employ a proper CEO who could give him good advice on all things football.The Red Robin said:Maybe TS should let someone else appoint the next one. Losing interest in this club fast.
He won't though as he thinks he's cleverer than everyone else.
Sorry to have missed you at Ipswich & learnt on Sunday evening what REALLY happened ( or didn't !) In Blackpool, 1972 !
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Silly point, as Jackson took over this dreadful team when we're in the bottom 4.J BLOCK said:
Disagree, the squad is better than 13th.Addick_8 said:
We play shocking football because we have a shocking squad. You could put Pep in charge of this lot and I don't think we would see much difference.J BLOCK said:
TS has also watched every game JJ has been in charge. I'm sure that was 95% of the reason behind it. Shocking football.roseandcrown said:Conerning if correct he has been sacekd becuase JJ opnion on how to get promoted does not aling with TS.
I am starting to have concerns on how much TS belives him and MS know.1 -
I dont want deffo after he left us as a teenager.......sorry everyoneCharltontillidieCOYR said:Warburton
beale - villa
edwards - FGR
Taylor - exeter
duff - cheltenham
deffo names i would hope we would be looking at and interviewing11 -
Personally I hope we move away from the Charlton connected manager once and for all16
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ButtleJR said:
“I obviously did not interfere with team selections for the games but I’m very convinced that more pressing high up on the pitch would give us a higher probability of getting promoted,” the Dane continued.
Quotes like this form TS are coming more and more concerning. Who is advising of this, his son the guru of football? I would understand if it this was coming from a director of football or technical director who has football experience.
I am starting to get uneasy with how this is starting to play out. TS is well intended but I fear he is so confident in his own ability and stubborn to change.
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I don't notice any comment about the style of football being poor there?Callumcafc said:
That’s a myth. The football under Adkins was bad. Here’s what you posted almost a year ago after we drew 1-1 at Accrington with a last minute Aneke equaliser…SELR_addicks said:
Why did Adkins last season have us playing good, direct football with all 3 of those in the starting line-up?Callumcafc said:
I will respond to that with three words: Famewo, Gilbey and Stockley.FishCostaFortune said:
For me personally I can't say I agree with this. Rothertham for instance are very direct, but I wouldn't say they were not pretty to watch - they don't just lump it up to Smith in hope he gets a knock down to another forward player. The often moved the ball very quickly through the thirds, and if not possible, the direct ball up to Smith was played with a lot more quality than just hit and hope, and normally found him moving into a channel where he could bring it down and play other runners overlapping him into play quickly.Callumcafc said:Blimey that’s a genuine surprise. Although does go some way to explaining the contract situations…
Will never understand the complaints about the style of football. We are in League One. In League One it’s never been pretty. Under Powell, under Bowyer. Look at Wigan and Rotherham this season. Both played 3-5-2 with big lumps at either end of the pitch.
If we want to take the MK Dons route here, it’s going to be a long old road and many years of getting it wrong before it all clicks. No doubt it’s probably the better choice in the long term but it’s risky.
We never had that. Our long balls were usually to Stockley who would drop a little deeper, in the centre of the pitch, and basically head it to no one - or get the ball out to the wings and try and get a cross in. It was horrible to watch, and often left us getting turned over easily with players out of position.
We can’t play accurate long balls up to the striker when Famewo hoofs it.
We can’t play quickly through the thirds when Gilbey has the worst first touch and pass that I’ve seen in a Charlton shirt for a while.
We can’t have Stockley bring it down intelligently and bring others into play around him for a couple of reasons… 1. he isn’t very good at it 2. it’s usually only Washington that’s anywhere near supporting him.
“ Even if we do end up in the play-offs at the end of the season, I don't want to see most of these players in the first 11 next season.
We need to sign a lot lot better this summer.”
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Or the formation being bad?
Mostly the players weren't up to a promotion challenge. Which is correct.
Adkins got the best out of those players, he was then given a weakened squad the season after.
Jackson, although improved the PPG, did not really show he could make the best of what he's given with. The style of football is possibly the worst i've seen and it looked like they didn't train.0 -
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I dont want deffo after he left us as a teenager.......sorry everyoneCharltontillidieCOYR said:Warburton
beale - villa
edwards - FGR
Taylor - exeter
duff - cheltenham
deffo names i would hope we would be looking at and interviewing0 - Sponsored links:
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If the notion of new manager bounce is true we will have a good start to next season!
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Gutted. It's a way below average squad, ending up in a below average position in the table. Get some decent players in instead of League One cast-offs and past it Championship players and performances will improve. Club is a mess and losing its identity.6
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Terry Skiverton has left the club also.
ANOTHER one that lasted long.
FFS. Comedy. If JJ appointed him, more fool him. If TS appointed him, more fool us.
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In 2022 our form is Won 9, drawn 3, lost 11
Not great really. Yes the lack of strikers for a period was a major issue, but even then there was no sign of flexibility. No attempt to pack the midfield, keep it tight and play on the break against the better sides for example.
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i must admit I don’t get why people are stating that they are shocked by the decision, surely everyone watching our football teams performance and final league position would see the idea of sacking JJ wasn’t beyond the realms of possibility, unless you’d been living in a cupboard with no contact with the outside world for the last however many months. This decision is not in the slightest a shock!!. It is sad and disappointing that a loyal guy to our club hasn’t been able to take an opportunity to make it a success with us.2
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I think they've looked at the stats and seen that high press teams do do better, we stopped the high press once Jackson got the full time job and became a low block team (maybe Washington being injured didn't help). TS has always said if you go back, that he wants someone to come in and play high press high tempo footballroseandcrown said:ButtleJR said:“I obviously did not interfere with team selections for the games but I’m very convinced that more pressing high up on the pitch would give us a higher probability of getting promoted,” the Dane continued.
Quotes like this form TS are coming more and more concerning. Who is advising of this, his son the guru of football? I would understand if it this was coming from a director of football or technical director who has football experience.
I am starting to get uneasy with how this is starting to play out. TS is well intended but I fear he is so confident in his own ability and stubborn to change.
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Darren Ferguson 4/1
Mark Warburton 5/1
Lee Johnson 6/1 (please no)
Roy Keane 8/1
Neil Harris 8/1
Michael Appleton 8/1
Lee Bowyer 12/1
Michael Beale 12/1Michael Duff 14/1
John Eustace 14/1
Rob Page 16/1
Sean Dyche 16/1
Mark Bonner 16/1
Michael Carrick 20/1
David Unsworth 20/1
25/1 everyone else0 -
They aren't his favourites though, they're the best options he had. Jackson's an idiot for playing Matthews because Chris Gunter is a much better option? And who's the Gilbey alternative? Elliot Lee, who's been no more consistent than Gilbey was. None of them are good enough.Croydon said:
Getting rid of Jackson may mean we see less of his favourites though, who are the same shit players we dislike. Can't see Matthews getting a new contract now, and hopefully Gilbey won't be starting every single match regardless of how shite he's performingMrLargo said:
And it has been better than 13th under Jackson, having been significantly worse than that under his predecessor.J BLOCK said:
Disagree, the squad is better than 13th.Addick_8 said:
We play shocking football because we have a shocking squad. You could put Pep in charge of this lot and I don't think we would see much difference.J BLOCK said:
TS has also watched every game JJ has been in charge. I'm sure that was 95% of the reason behind it. Shocking football.roseandcrown said:Conerning if correct he has been sacekd becuase JJ opnion on how to get promoted does not aling with TS.
I am starting to have concerns on how much TS belives him and MS know.
It's a dreadful squad though. Which of the current lot would get anywhere near the last two sides that got us out of this division? Stockley? Dobson? Nobody else? The recruitment's been appalling. Our biggest summer signing was out the door by January. Sean Clare was unwanted by Oxford - that's hardly ambitious (although Jackson got some very good performances out of him.
It really doesn't matter who the manager is if he's got nothing to work with.7 -
This - can't say I've been happy with Jackson sticking with a formation he didn't have the players for but it seems to me that the problems stem from the owner - he's cocked up at least 3 transfer windows and seemingly brought in players neither Adkins nor Jackson wanted and sacked them when they failed as expected to get results.Bailey said:Sorry but Sandgaard is taking a huge gamble with the goodwill of the supporters, quite a few of which are questioning not only his naivety but also the direction in which the club is going. For me Sandgaard openly stating that recruitment or lack of it was the sole reason for the poor start was admitting he and his appointments got it badly wrong, Jackson nor Atkins were culpable but Sandgaard was. I have been watching Charlton since 1968 and I have seen a lot of bad players in that time but feck me they don't come close to the amount of bad owners we have turn up at our door.
His decision making has been so poor to date that I really worry about who he now appoints as manager/coach or whatever.
Said it before he may not be obnoxious and vindictive like Duchatelet but he is still an ego driven rich businessman who thinks he knows best and hasn't got a board of directors to keep him in check. And when it gets even worse and he gets bored and fed up of wasting his dollars them what?5 -
Have a great summer yourself Jean.Fanny Fanackapan said:
Spot on , Steve.blackpool72 said:
What he should of done months ago was employ a proper CEO who could give him good advice on all things football.The Red Robin said:Maybe TS should let someone else appoint the next one. Losing interest in this club fast.
He won't though as he thinks he's cleverer than everyone else.
Sorry to have missed you at Ipswich & learnt on Sunday evening what REALLY happened ( or didn't !) In Blackpool, 1972 !
Have a great summer x
See you next season xx1 - Sponsored links:
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I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for JJ and wish him all the best but equally think TS has made the right decision. I'm in the camp that TS was effectively forced to appoint JJ because of the start he had and the clamour from the fans for him to do so but don't think he was really his pick.
As for a successor, I think Beale must be right up there and Duff at Cheltenham has impressed this season.3 -
How long was skiverton at Yeovil for? I bet he is glad he left!killerandflash said:
That article confirms that Skiverton has left, but Euell staysButtleJR said:
Coach Terry Skiverton has also left the club, but Jackson’s former assistant Jason Euell and ogalkeeping coach Glyn Shimell are set to remain at the Valley.0 -
We’ll never see another Curbs. Jacko helped to see this club through some of its darkest times, but yet there’s so many ready to stick the knife in based on some poor results, which is disappointing. You can agree with the decision to not renew his contract, but have some respect.
We didn’t play bad League One football, we just had too many players capable of making calamitous mistakes, consistently. Identify them and replace them with better. Replace Jacko and you’ve still got to replace the players, so now we’re starting all over again. I hope Sandgaard has the pocketbook and the nerve for that.
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As I said last summer.......not a lot of difference between TS and RD. Change managers as quickiy as they change their socks. Only problem is that TS doesn't have a network to give us the likes of Watt, JBG, Bulot & Sarr. Big money needs to be spent this summer in that case.1
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Sillybilly said:
Absolutely correct. But listen to JJs full interview with @LouisMend on Sunday. I’m convinced he knew. Unless he was just pissed.Elthamaddick said:if the rumours he was sacked by phone are true, then that's piss poor form - not to have the bollocks to do it to his face.
I've listened again and I really don't think he did. Spoke at quite a bit at length about his plans for the future with us
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Has everyone missed that earlier post about TS bringing in an american manager?
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In contrast, as soon as I heard Jackson had been shown the doorkimbo said:Good god, renewed season tickets at 13:53 -not sure i would have don't that without Jackson
I went on line and renewed my two season tickets.
I vowed not to renew them while Jackson remained as our manager.
I couldn’t take any more of his football.2 -
Big Call from our rock n roll owner, brave or foolish decision? Only time will tell but the buck firmly stops with you Tommy ! I hope you know what your doing and have lined up a manager to get us out of League One. Charlton fans won't except anything less than promotion next season. Good luck Jacko, you will always be a Charlton legend.2
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In fact that does not stack up as under JJ we won 60% of our last 10 games from March- but JJ took over back in October!CAFCOlly said:Love Jacko, and he ultimately led us to safety after a disastrous start.
However, I've found myself questioning a lot of his decisions, and it became apparent that the new manager bounce carried us during his early reign.
Was a tough decision, but I think Sandgaard has got this one right. Fingers crossed.0 -
Right name for someone to manage our shower of shite.LargeAddick said:I'm disappointed it hasn't worked out for JJ and wish him all the best but equally think TS has made the right decision. I'm in the camp that TS was effectively forced to appoint JJ because of the start he had and the clamour from the fans for him to do so but don't think he was really his pick.
As for a successor, I think Beale must be right up there and Duff at Cheltenham has impressed this season.
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