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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    What's a non-league player doing winning League Two Player Of The Month then? 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Also I'm not saying he's better than Stockley ffs, ofc Stockley is much more dangerous in front of goal. But Bogle was pretty good at dropping deep, controlling the ball and laying it off. When we went on a good early season run he was a big part of it, even if he barely looked like scoring; he kept defenders occupied and generally looked to get involved in play 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    Leuth said:
    Also I'm not saying he's better than Stockley ffs, ofc Stockley is much more dangerous in front of goal. But Bogle was pretty good at dropping deep, controlling the ball and laying it off. When we went on a good early season run he was a big part of it, even if he barely looked like scoring; he kept defenders occupied and generally looked to get involved in play




    When in a hole. 
    Stop digging. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    I notice none of you are arguing with my actual argument, just hurling rotten tomatoes. Cardiff signed the guy for a reason - he has a decent skill level
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Leuth said:
    I notice none of you are arguing with my actual argument, just hurling rotten tomatoes. Cardiff signed the guy for a reason - he has a decent skill level
    Signed for his excellent goalscoring record pre-Wigan more than anything?



    Though to be fair also praised for his all round game. Bowyer said similar when he came in.


  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited March 2022
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 
    not exactly a high bar, but fair. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Leuth said:
    What's a non-league player doing winning League Two Player Of The Month then? 

    He will be playing non-league next year
  • Leuth said:
    Also I'm not saying he's better than Stockley ffs, ofc Stockley is much more dangerous in front of goal. But Bogle was pretty good at dropping deep, controlling the ball and laying it off. When we went on a good early season run he was a big part of it, even if he barely looked like scoring; he kept defenders occupied and generally looked to get involved in play 
    He can control a ball further than I can kick it
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  • Leuth said:
    I notice none of you are arguing with my actual argument, just hurling rotten tomatoes. Cardiff signed the guy for a reason - he has a decent skill level
    There's also a reason cardiff only played him 21 times between 2017-2020.

    please see blackpools comments about stop digging!!
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 


    Burstow is 18 ffs. He is raw and low on confidence due to leading the line at the age of 18 for a team getting beat every week

    burstow has enough about him for Chelsea to take a punt on him.

    to say that burstow is no less effective than bogle is actually laughable.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 


    Burstow is 18 ffs. He is raw and low on confidence due to leading the line at the age of 18 for a team getting beat every week

    burstow has enough about him for Chelsea to take a punt on him.

    to say that burstow is no less effective than bogle is actually laughable.
    Potential they are in a different ball park, even stratosphere, effectiveness isn't laughable. 

    What has Burstow actually done, not what could he potentially do? 
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 


    Burstow is 18 ffs. He is raw and low on confidence due to leading the line at the age of 18 for a team getting beat every week

    burstow has enough about him for Chelsea to take a punt on him.

    to say that burstow is no less effective than bogle is actually laughable.
    Potential they are in a different ball park, even stratosphere, effectiveness isn't laughable. 

    What has Burstow actually done, not what could he potentially do? 
    What are their goals per minute ratio in a Charlton shirt? 

    Burstow is an 18 year old in his break through season, who despite being in a dry spell has around 5 in 20 in all competitions. Bogle as an experienced pro scored 2 in a similar number of games.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    Leuth said:
    What's a non-league player doing winning League Two Player Of The Month then? 
    Massively overachieving.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    Bogle's biggest problem wasn't really lack of ability on the ball ...... but what was going on inside his head at Charlton.
    His lack of self-belief crippled him. The harder he tried the worse he got.

    He got dogs abuse from the crowd that was killing him, it was plain to see. Mentally he was shot.
    Many people seem to forget that players have all the strengths, imperfections and frailties of being human.


  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Leuth said:
    Will keep saying it: he was never as bad as most people thought. His touch and hold-up play is a step-up on Stockley's (if not Aneke's)
    Ludicrous. He would definitely be in the mix for our worst ever forward. 
    Worst player I have ever seen in our jersey. He didn't have any saving graces - he was slow, clumsy, unaware, no good in the air, no shot, poor first touch etc. I see he has averaged about three goals a season since 2016. Surprised he even got two for us. Don't think he knew much about them either.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bogle was often lazy and ponderous. Slow yet tricky. If he could find the work ethic at league one level he could have been a decent gamble.

    He was not good enough for us and whilst I agree he could pass and bring a ball down better than Stockley, (I disagree on Aneke) he couldn't finish and tried ridiculous shots that rarely got on target, let alone bothered the keeper. 

    He wasn't a team player, he tried to dribble it all the way himself and at the end of the day was flogged to Doncaster and is now a League 2 player. He has found the level he can excel at.
    For all the stick he gets, some of it justified, some of it OTT.  He was no less effective than those that replaced him.  Schwartz and Davison I would even include Burstow. 


    Burstow is 18 ffs. He is raw and low on confidence due to leading the line at the age of 18 for a team getting beat every week

    burstow has enough about him for Chelsea to take a punt on him.

    to say that burstow is no less effective than bogle is actually laughable.
    Potential they are in a different ball park, even stratosphere, effectiveness isn't laughable. 

    What has Burstow actually done, not what could he potentially do? 
    What are their goals per minute ratio in a Charlton shirt? 

    Burstow is an 18 year old in his break through season, who despite being in a dry spell has around 5 in 20 in all competitions. Bogle as an experienced pro scored 2 in a similar number of games.
    In league games Bogle scored a goal every 375 minutes.  1 assist.  The 18 league games Bogle featured in we netted 31 points, 1.73 PPG. 

    In league games Burstow has scored a goal every 325. No assist.  The 15 league games Burstow featured in we netted 11 points, 0.73 PPG.

    If you think I am suggesting that Bogle is in anyway shape or form better, or has more potential than, Burstow I suggest you reread what I wrote.  Because that's not what I said. 


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,836
    Bogle scored again this weekend

    An own goal admittedly  ;)  
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    Hartlepool United can today confirm the departure of Omar Bogle.
     
    The forward leaves for an undisclosed fee to Newport County AFC.
     
    Bogle made 22 appearances for the club, scoring five goals after signing in January. 
    https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2022/june/omar-bogle-leaves-pools/
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    clive said:
    Hartlepool United can today confirm the departure of Omar Bogle.
     
    The forward leaves for an undisclosed fee to Newport County AFC.
     
    Bogle made 22 appearances for the club, scoring five goals after signing in January. 
    https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2022/june/omar-bogle-leaves-pools/
    This bloke must not ever bother unpacking his suitcase
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited June 2022
    Chunes said:
    clive said:
    Hartlepool United can today confirm the departure of Omar Bogle.
     
    The forward leaves for an undisclosed fee to Newport County AFC.
     
    Bogle made 22 appearances for the club, scoring five goals after signing in January. 
    https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2022/june/omar-bogle-leaves-pools/
    This bloke must not ever bother unpacking his suitcase
    It says he moved for a fee. 
    Was that meant as a general comment or a reply to mine?
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,844
    I think he will do well at Newport. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited July 2022
    Chunes said:
    Chunes said:
    clive said:
    Hartlepool United can today confirm the departure of Omar Bogle.
     
    The forward leaves for an undisclosed fee to Newport County AFC.
     
    Bogle made 22 appearances for the club, scoring five goals after signing in January. 
    https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2022/june/omar-bogle-leaves-pools/
    This bloke must not ever bother unpacking his suitcase
    It says he moved for a fee. 
    Was that meant as a general comment or a reply to mine?
    By way of surprise because people say he is so bad and to you because you made it sound as if he was shoved on. A fee tends to suggest otherwise and Newport are a team who have competed at the top end of L2 recently. 
    No, it was a simple joke based on the fact he's had a lot of clubs. No other insinuations being made. Not fun when you have to explain them...
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Omar Bogle gets paid to play football.

    That is a success in my book.

  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    How’s his rap career going?
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    He wasn't great but if people think he was the worst player they'd seen in a Charlton shirt, who can forget Lepointe, Eggert Jonsson or any of the Matt Smiths?
  • JaShea99 said:
    How’s his Crap career going?
    Fixed it for you
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,877
    rananegra said:
    He wasn't great but if people think he was the worst player they'd seen in a Charlton shirt, who can forget Lepointe, Eggert Jonsson or any of the Matt Smiths?
    I did manage to forget but now you e reminded me....thanks 😂
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    rananegra said:
    He wasn't great but if people think he was the worst player they'd seen in a Charlton shirt, who can forget Lepointe, Eggert Jonsson or any of the Matt Smiths?
    And Akpo!