Charlton announce five-year partnership with RSK

Swindon_Addick said:

After all these years, finally working in civil engineering consultancy comes in handy.

RSK are a fairly big name in our industry, and well respected. "Consultant" doesn't mean the same thing for us as in most industries - in engineering the standard arrangement is that the consultants design things, then contractors build it. Yes, they will be providing advice about environmental or planning matters, but a lot of their work will be designing the solution to the problem, not just writing reports with advice. There's a lot of overlap between civil engineering and environmental work, due to the big environmental impacts that engineering projects can have, meaning lots of work for environmentalists to try to design out the problems. RSK have specialised more in the planning and environment side of things, while the names you may have heard of as designers of bridges or roads, like Arup or Atkins, specialise more in the engineering, but all basically do both.

This is going to put me in an interesting situation at company sports events, as they're technically commercial rivals to my employers, albeit different specialisations mean we don't often bid against each other. Not going to be a great career move to wear a Charlton shirt with their logo on.

Swindon_Addick said:

Dave Rudd said

So .. my question ... is RSK an International organisation (as Sandgaard seems to think) or is it an organisation of International companies (as I understood it)?

The key difference being that RSK may not be a well-known brand globally, although its component organisations (eg Althoff & Lang) may be well-known in their respective countries (eg Germany).

I just wonder if the plan to globalise CAFC fits with this.

My analogy is that RSK = John Lewis.  Not many in (eg) China will have heard of John Lewis ... but they will know about Apple.

It's standard practice for consultancies to operate through a different company in each country they work in. It makes the various registration and licencing rules easier to comply with and also makes it easier to sell bits of the business if need be. RSK are unusual in often keeping the brand name of a business they buy, whereas the big US consultancies will tend to rename a newly-acquired business to match the rest. But they'll still own all or at least a large part of the businesses they name on their website. 

RSK is the name they'll be known by to most of their UK clients, and while most of us won't have heard of them, the people who run council highways departments or housing developers will.

iaitch said:

DubaiCAFC said:

Henry Irving said:

DubaiCAFC said:

Charlton do seem to have a track record of sponsors going out of business.. I can think of 2 or 3

No recently.

Last five all still around

KW

Betdaq

Andrews   

University of Greenwich  

KRBS  


Others like Mesh and Viglin still around in different forms (Viglin were bought by Amstrad IIRC)

Woolwich were absorbed by Barclays, Fads went but a long time after our deal ended.

Llanera and all:sports went under but I think Cabrini are still around.

Not sure about Sunley Builders

They were the ones I was thinking of..

What happened to Redbus?

valleynick66 said:

Who really cares assuming it is actually an income of some description and we haven’t sold ourselves short ?

It’s for TS to manage / balance the books in any event. 

Never convinced any sponsor at our level is really getting much for their money / truly raising brand awareness and hence any income is surely a good deal fir the club. 

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

Swindon_Addick said:

Dave Rudd said

So .. my question ... is RSK an International organisation (as Sandgaard seems to think) or is it an organisation of International companies (as I understood it)?

The key difference being that RSK may not be a well-known brand globally, although its component organisations (eg Althoff & Lang) may be well-known in their respective countries (eg Germany).

I just wonder if the plan to globalise CAFC fits with this.

My analogy is that RSK = John Lewis.  Not many in (eg) China will have heard of John Lewis ... but they will know about Apple.

It's standard practice for consultancies to operate through a different company in each country they work in. It makes the various registration and licencing rules easier to comply with and also makes it easier to sell bits of the business if need be. RSK are unusual in often keeping the brand name of a business they buy, whereas the big US consultancies will tend to rename a newly-acquired business to match the rest. But they'll still own all or at least a large part of the businesses they name on their website. 

RSK is the name they'll be known by to most of their UK clients, and while most of us won't have heard of them, the people who run council highways departments or housing developers will.

OK, so that confirms that RSK is a brand in the UK, but that the name will mean little or nothing overseas.

Charlton Owner, Thomas Sandgaard, said: “We are really pleased to partner with RSK. International growth is a very important part of my plans for the club – RSK have offices and clients all around the world which will help us introduce a wider audience to Charlton.


Hmmm.  

I suspect overseas might well end up using the names/connections better known in those countries for networking purposes but I don't think it's necessary nor sensible to try and break that down in this kind of interview. 

cafcfan1990 said:

Based in Cheshire. I’m presuming we’ve got Southall to thank for this one? 

Dave Rudd said:

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

Swindon_Addick said:

Dave Rudd said

So .. my question ... is RSK an International organisation (as Sandgaard seems to think) or is it an organisation of International companies (as I understood it)?

The key difference being that RSK may not be a well-known brand globally, although its component organisations (eg Althoff & Lang) may be well-known in their respective countries (eg Germany).

I just wonder if the plan to globalise CAFC fits with this.

My analogy is that RSK = John Lewis.  Not many in (eg) China will have heard of John Lewis ... but they will know about Apple.

It's standard practice for consultancies to operate through a different company in each country they work in. It makes the various registration and licencing rules easier to comply with and also makes it easier to sell bits of the business if need be. RSK are unusual in often keeping the brand name of a business they buy, whereas the big US consultancies will tend to rename a newly-acquired business to match the rest. But they'll still own all or at least a large part of the businesses they name on their website. 

RSK is the name they'll be known by to most of their UK clients, and while most of us won't have heard of them, the people who run council highways departments or housing developers will.

OK, so that confirms that RSK is a brand in the UK, but that the name will mean little or nothing overseas.

Charlton Owner, Thomas Sandgaard, said: “We are really pleased to partner with RSK. International growth is a very important part of my plans for the club – RSK have offices and clients all around the world which will help us introduce a wider audience to Charlton.


Hmmm.  

I suspect overseas might well end up using the names/connections better known in those countries for networking purposes but I don't think it's necessary nor sensible to try and break that down in this kind of interview. 

Not sure what point you are trying to make, but my point is that 'RSK' (the name on our shirts) isn't going to mean much outside the UK.

Not great for 'International growth'.

Dave Rudd said:

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

Swindon_Addick said:

Dave Rudd said

So .. my question ... is RSK an International organisation (as Sandgaard seems to think) or is it an organisation of International companies (as I understood it)?

The key difference being that RSK may not be a well-known brand globally, although its component organisations (eg Althoff & Lang) may be well-known in their respective countries (eg Germany).

I just wonder if the plan to globalise CAFC fits with this.

My analogy is that RSK = John Lewis.  Not many in (eg) China will have heard of John Lewis ... but they will know about Apple.

It's standard practice for consultancies to operate through a different company in each country they work in. It makes the various registration and licencing rules easier to comply with and also makes it easier to sell bits of the business if need be. RSK are unusual in often keeping the brand name of a business they buy, whereas the big US consultancies will tend to rename a newly-acquired business to match the rest. But they'll still own all or at least a large part of the businesses they name on their website. 

RSK is the name they'll be known by to most of their UK clients, and while most of us won't have heard of them, the people who run council highways departments or housing developers will.

OK, so that confirms that RSK is a brand in the UK, but that the name will mean little or nothing overseas.

Charlton Owner, Thomas Sandgaard, said: “We are really pleased to partner with RSK. International growth is a very important part of my plans for the club – RSK have offices and clients all around the world which will help us introduce a wider audience to Charlton.


Hmmm.  

I suspect overseas might well end up using the names/connections better known in those countries for networking purposes but I don't think it's necessary nor sensible to try and break that down in this kind of interview. 

Not sure what point you are trying to make, but my point is that 'RSK' (the name on our shirts) isn't going to mean much outside the UK.

Not great for 'International growth'.

The point being if he's focused international growth I doubt its the RSK brand name he is relying on outside of the UK. 

Oh, OK.

Who is it then?

Fumbluff said:

Dazzler21 said:

eaststandmike said:

Jesus wept, what have we become.

Pre internet when a sponsor was announced we used to give it a nano second to digest, then the main question was what would the new shirt look like.

Fast forward and now a full investigation is carried out on said sponsor including financials, board of directors and strategy. 

I'd guess something vaguely like this. 

It’s not Hummel though, is it though, you giant Minogue…

TelMc32 said:

Dave Rudd said:

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

thenewbie said:

Dave Rudd said:

Swindon_Addick said:

Dave Rudd said

So .. my question ... is RSK an International organisation (as Sandgaard seems to think) or is it an organisation of International companies (as I understood it)?

The key difference being that RSK may not be a well-known brand globally, although its component organisations (eg Althoff & Lang) may be well-known in their respective countries (eg Germany).

I just wonder if the plan to globalise CAFC fits with this.

My analogy is that RSK = John Lewis.  Not many in (eg) China will have heard of John Lewis ... but they will know about Apple.

It's standard practice for consultancies to operate through a different company in each country they work in. It makes the various registration and licencing rules easier to comply with and also makes it easier to sell bits of the business if need be. RSK are unusual in often keeping the brand name of a business they buy, whereas the big US consultancies will tend to rename a newly-acquired business to match the rest. But they'll still own all or at least a large part of the businesses they name on their website. 

RSK is the name they'll be known by to most of their UK clients, and while most of us won't have heard of them, the people who run council highways departments or housing developers will.

OK, so that confirms that RSK is a brand in the UK, but that the name will mean little or nothing overseas.

Charlton Owner, Thomas Sandgaard, said: “We are really pleased to partner with RSK. International growth is a very important part of my plans for the club – RSK have offices and clients all around the world which will help us introduce a wider audience to Charlton.


Hmmm.  

I suspect overseas might well end up using the names/connections better known in those countries for networking purposes but I don't think it's necessary nor sensible to try and break that down in this kind of interview. 

Not sure what point you are trying to make, but my point is that 'RSK' (the name on our shirts) isn't going to mean much outside the UK.

Not great for 'International growth'.

The point being if he's focused international growth I doubt its the RSK brand name he is relying on outside of the UK. 

Oh, OK.

Who is it then?

If you take a look at their website, you can see the international businesses who typically have “a RSK company” included in there branding. Alternatively, they have RSK as a prefix to the local company name (a little like RSM and UHY in the accountancy world).  They’ve added a lot of new acquisitions in the last few years, so might see this as a way of raising their own brand name awareness (although it would obviously be better for them if we were at least at Championship level). 

Other than that, seems like a sound business and one that we should be happy to be associated with.

seth plum said:

Athletico Charlton said:

seth plum said:

Never heard of them, no idea what they do to get money.

Sustainability is one of the biggest growth industries in the UK. If I had kids heading towards degrees and A Levels I would be encouraging them into this field.  It is the future and will see exponential growth as people realise all other industries are pointless without a planet capable of supporting life.

I looked up some of their website, and one of the board members is called Nigel Board.
There is a photograph of all the board members on their site and there is one especially interesting feature of the montage.
It looks as if they get money by being paid to suggest things, like the care of soil on a construction site.
Are they consultants?
I was once told that a consultant will tell you 200 ways to have sex, but they wouldn’t have a partner themselves.