Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)

Chunes said:

CafcWest said:

So many saying “why bother” we have no chance of the playoffs…we are only 13 points off with 90 to play for…I’d say playoffs are unlikely BUT not over yet.  Go on a run of wins and a few above have injuries/lose key players and it is still possible …. 

Mathematically I agree with you, but does this team look like it can go on a run, even with 2-3 top quality additions? They don't have the grit and fortitude, most of them are brain-dead.

killerandflash said:

Cafc43v3r said:

killerandflash said:

Cafc43v3r said:

killerandflash said:

SouthWest_Addicks said:

Cafc43v3r said:. 

Because of Roland, and almost continued 3rd tier football we haven't got the "youngsters" to play.  We have got a crop of 19-21 year olds to play.

We have got some very high potential U18s and first year pros but so few are ready at that age.  We have probably had 4 or 5 in the last 40 years that are.  Even Parker, who by most messures is the  best player to ever come through our youth set up, wasn't ready at 17/18.  It can do them more harm than good. 

It's the group of Claydon, Wasim, Ness etc that should be knocking on the door now.  We know why they aren't. 

This. Bowyer had Aribo, Grant, Doughty & Dijksteel during his management period. At some point all the penny pinching from Roland and ESI was going to catch up with us. You had hoped the likes of Dempsey and Vennings would be breaking into the first team, but they are not good enough. Unfortunately, we are in that transition period when we have a weak group of 19 to 22 year olds, but good 18s. I am certain if anyone from the 23s were good enough to be in the first team, they would be. 

Only one who might play between now and May is Aaron Henry and hes only 18 i think.

Neither Aribo nor Dijksteel are academy products, there were signed aged 18/19

Neither are a lot of the current 19-21s. 

But then that's nothing new. Neither Paul Mortimer nor Paul Williams came through our youth system, we've always picked up good players either from non league or that have been released by other clubs

The point is we haven't got any now, regardless of where they came from. 

Mason Burstow

Slightly younger, but picked up from Maidstone


……and dropped off in West London. 

Chunes said:

cabbles said:

Chunes said:

CafcWest said:

So many saying “why bother” we have no chance of the playoffs…we are only 13 points off with 90 to play for…I’d say playoffs are unlikely BUT not over yet.  Go on a run of wins and a few above have injuries/lose key players and it is still possible …. 

Mathematically I agree with you, but does this team look like it can go on a run, even with 2-3 top quality additions? They don't have the grit and fortitude, most of them are brain-dead.

I think brain dead is a tad too harsh mate, they’re just not good enough.  I get the rationale behind the statement about points to play for - it’s 60 points to play for btw, not 90.  However, a team 26 games into the season having looked this mediocre doesn’t suddenly do enough to get to the 75pt mark with one or two loan additions of Prem youngsters.  It’s definitely not going to happen.  We could force the top 10 at most.  The most important thing is not to get sucked into a relegation scrap 

I don't think brain-dead is that harsh. How else do you explain how constantly being offside from free-kicks, our corners endlessly hitting the first man, playing short free-kicks in the last kick off a half/game when we're losing, then the ref blows the whistle to end it... Giving away silly fouls when we're losing and basically managing the game for the opposition... There are more examples not coming to me in this moment but such basic things that are all about thinking and not really about playing. 

cabbles said:

Chunes said:

cabbles said:

Chunes said:

CafcWest said:

So many saying “why bother” we have no chance of the playoffs…we are only 13 points off with 90 to play for…I’d say playoffs are unlikely BUT not over yet.  Go on a run of wins and a few above have injuries/lose key players and it is still possible …. 

Mathematically I agree with you, but does this team look like it can go on a run, even with 2-3 top quality additions? They don't have the grit and fortitude, most of them are brain-dead.

I think brain dead is a tad too harsh mate, they’re just not good enough.  I get the rationale behind the statement about points to play for - it’s 60 points to play for btw, not 90.  However, a team 26 games into the season having looked this mediocre doesn’t suddenly do enough to get to the 75pt mark with one or two loan additions of Prem youngsters.  It’s definitely not going to happen.  We could force the top 10 at most.  The most important thing is not to get sucked into a relegation scrap 

I don't think brain-dead is that harsh. How else do you explain how constantly being offside from free-kicks, our corners endlessly hitting the first man, playing short free-kicks in the last kick off a half/game when we're losing, then the ref blows the whistle to end it... Giving away silly fouls when we're losing and basically managing the game for the opposition... There are more examples not coming to me in this moment but such basic things that are all about thinking and not really about playing. 

Yes, it’s frustrating, and there are definitely things we can do better.  But talent, or lack of it, for me, is the key problem 

Henry Irving said:

Oguntayo is a young leftwing  back bit has only just returned from injury.

Hearing another loan deal fell through due to the medical.

Cafc43v3r said:

cabbles said:

Chunes said:

cabbles said:

Chunes said:

CafcWest said:

So many saying “why bother” we have no chance of the playoffs…we are only 13 points off with 90 to play for…I’d say playoffs are unlikely BUT not over yet.  Go on a run of wins and a few above have injuries/lose key players and it is still possible …. 

Mathematically I agree with you, but does this team look like it can go on a run, even with 2-3 top quality additions? They don't have the grit and fortitude, most of them are brain-dead.

I think brain dead is a tad too harsh mate, they’re just not good enough.  I get the rationale behind the statement about points to play for - it’s 60 points to play for btw, not 90.  However, a team 26 games into the season having looked this mediocre doesn’t suddenly do enough to get to the 75pt mark with one or two loan additions of Prem youngsters.  It’s definitely not going to happen.  We could force the top 10 at most.  The most important thing is not to get sucked into a relegation scrap 

I don't think brain-dead is that harsh. How else do you explain how constantly being offside from free-kicks, our corners endlessly hitting the first man, playing short free-kicks in the last kick off a half/game when we're losing, then the ref blows the whistle to end it... Giving away silly fouls when we're losing and basically managing the game for the opposition... There are more examples not coming to me in this moment but such basic things that are all about thinking and not really about playing. 

Yes, it’s frustrating, and there are definitely things we can do better.  But talent, or lack of it, for me, is the key problem 

I think talent is the least of our problems, we don't play Pep's barca every week but we often make them look better than they are.  We constantly do the basics wrong. 

CafcWest said:

So many saying “why bother” we have no chance of the playoffs…we are only 13 points off with 90 to play for…I’d say playoffs are unlikely BUT not over yet.  Go on a run of wins and a few above have injuries/lose key players and it is still possible …. 

Dazzler21 said:

Can we buy a new JFC or rush him back with some medical wizardry somehow

grumpyaddick said:

God this is dire.  

Delfin said:

Funny how no one seems to have read on January 16, I mentioned Nile John  18 year old Spurs under 23 midfielder,as a real rumor.