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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    He’s just scored in his last three Premier League games. Arguably been their best player since they hit form again
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    Clearly you dont watch Arsenal much, him/ Saka/Ramsdale have been the stand outs. Smith-Rowe seems to have the vision/passing and lately has added more goals, not breathtaking pace but he is quick and with Saka are the main threats for Arsenal the last year or so. 

    IMO definitely merited, could others have got picked ahead? possibly
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,165
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    Oh golfie, I do enjoy your posts. Smith Rowe has 11 PL appearances, 4 goals and 2 assists from midfield aged 21, including 3 goals and an assist in his last 3 games. He also played and scored for England's u21's a month ago. Who would you have called up in that spot ahead of him?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Garrymanilow said:
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    Oh golfie, I do enjoy your posts. Smith Rowe has 11 PL appearances, 4 goals and 2 assists from midfield aged 21, including 3 goals and an assist in his last 3 games. He also played and scored for England's u21's a month ago. Who would you have called up in that spot ahead of him?
    A nippy striker 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    Probably been one of Arsenal's best players in the last few weeks.

    However you're probably right to some degree in that i've no doubt if he played for Burnley or Brighton he wouldn't be getting a call up, but honestly there's not many midfielders been in better form than him over the last few weeks.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Smith-Rowe definitely deserves his callup

    Conor Gallagher is the only other one who comes to mind
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    I do think players are getting senior call ups very soon these days though, it seems like you only need to have half a dozen good games and you're in the senior squad.

    You only have to look at the mess of the U21 squad to know that.

    Charlie Cresswell, Cody Drameh, Clinton Mola, Tommy Doyle, James Garner, Angel Gomes, Tony Gordon, Folarin Balogun 70 PL minutes for Arsenal,  Rhian Brewster 2 goals in 40 games for Sheff Utd.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    I do think players are getting senior call ups very soon these days though, it seems like you only need to have half a dozen good games and you're in the senior squad.

    You only have to look at the mess of the U21 squad to know that.

    Charlie Cresswell, Cody Drameh, Clinton Mola, Tommy Doyle, James Garner, Angel Gomes, Tony Gordon, Folarin Balogun 70 PL minutes for Arsenal,  Rhian Brewster 2 goals in 40 games for Sheff Utd.
    I very much doubt he's intended to be a crucial part of the squad, he'll be there to make up numbers and maybe get some time if things go well enough. 

    Honestly it seems like some forward thinking to me, starting to bring through the next generation in small doses will hopefully allow for a continuity of the team spirit that Southgate has created. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,165
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    golfaddick said:
    Has Smith-Rowe only been called up because he plays for Arsenal because from what I've seen of him he's just an average Premiership player. Back to the Walcott over Bent days again are we.
    Oh golfie, I do enjoy your posts. Smith Rowe has 11 PL appearances, 4 goals and 2 assists from midfield aged 21, including 3 goals and an assist in his last 3 games. He also played and scored for England's u21's a month ago. Who would you have called up in that spot ahead of him?
    A nippy striker 
    Maybe a young Premier League loanee?
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    Alternatively, we call someone like Alli or Wilson to make up the numbers which doesn’t offer anything for the future.
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    I do think players are getting senior call ups very soon these days though, it seems like you only need to have half a dozen good games and you're in the senior squad.

    You only have to look at the mess of the U21 squad to know that.

    Charlie Cresswell, Cody Drameh, Clinton Mola, Tommy Doyle, James Garner, Angel Gomes, Tony Gordon, Folarin Balogun 70 PL minutes for Arsenal,  Rhian Brewster 2 goals in 40 games for Sheff Utd.
    There has been a significant change in the way we pick the age group squads though hasn't there.

    20 years ago if you were a 20 year old playing in the 2nd division you would probably be called up even if there was no realistic chance of you ever playing for the full side.   In the old days it wouldn't have been surprising if someone like Doughty had been called up for the U21s. 

    For the same reason you probably won't see players picking up a handful of caps in their late 20s early 30s like has been quite common in the past. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    edited November 2021
    Anyone doing the double header this weekend, tonight and Burton?
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,205
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    Anyone doing the double header this weekend, tonight and Burton?
    Yep - I’ll be watching both matches on the telly/Charlton TV. 
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650

  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited November 2021
    3-4-3?

    Pickford
    Walker - Stones - Maguire
    James - Phillips - Henderson - Chilwell
    Foden - Kane - Sterling

    Or potentially a 3-5-2 if Foden plays centrally behind a front two of Kane and Sterling.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Long since given up criticising Southgate's negativity as he gets results but technically that is EIGHT defensive players at home to Albania.

    I say technically because you'd assume James and Chilwell won't be that defensive, but even so. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Roy Keane making friends with Spurs fans there  :D
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    Roy Keane... " harry Kane plays for spurs he should be used to disappointment " 😂😂😂😂😂
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Why the hell are England playing in blue at home?   Really pees me off. 
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  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Bugler was miming the last post. His fingers weren’t moving. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Pickford taking lessons from Schmeichel in the FA cup QF in 1994
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,272
    WTF was Pickford doing there?
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    “Over 5,000 Albanians who have made the trip.”

    What, all the way from London.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Sillybilly said:
    Why the hell are England playing in blue at home?   Really pees me off. 
    Leeds vs Chelsea
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 844
    Lump on red card Albania. 
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 844
    Sillybilly said:
    Why the hell are England playing in blue at home?   Really pees me off. 
    The PL would have something to say about that 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    That'll do nicely.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Slabhead!!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    Clever block on Maguire's marker by Kalvin Phillips. Off the training ground.

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