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John Lewis Christmas ad.
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I can see what Ashley spent his £300 million on from the Saudis then.WhenIwasLittleBoy said:Sports Direct Xmas ad smashes it out of the park0 -
So for some reason I have to post this againseth plum said:
My criticism of advertising has resonance elsewhere.Addickted said:
Of course it's not political.seth plum said:
In what way is my personal anti advertising stance political?Addickted said:So what have you purchased from the John Lewis Partnership over the past five years @seth plum.
About time your political rants were removed from every thread you post on. No one's listening and you're just making your self look like a killjoy idiot.
You've just given three good reasons why JL should continue with their Christmas campaign - nowhere does it suggest you should actually purchase something from them - yet they provide an incredibly high customer service and for a lot of people a once a year high quality shopping experience..
Go and stop some traffic somewhere if you want to 'be useful'.
I mean bringing the arms trade into a thread about one store's Christmas TV advert, that millions look forward to each year and ranting about "corrupting my ability to make an objective decision" is nothing but anti free market posturing.
Why John Lewis as your target? Why not all the perfume companies with their Christmas campaigns? There's enough of them at every ad break to sink a battleship. But then you probably never watch capitalist TV with 'sponsorship'. Or are swayed anyway whatsoever to try a new product. Or wear any clothing with a manufacturers brand on it.
Hypocrite.
There is an advertising standards watchdog for a reason.
Advertising promotes many unhelpful tropes, like a constant focus on unattainable body images which can undermine, ones that perpetuate sexist and racial stereotypes, ones that give a false image for example alcohol, gambling ads, and fast food (MacDonalds sell ‘meals’? Ever watched supersize me.) Misleading political advertising.
Certain ‘free’ internet services enrich individuals hugely because adverts are shoved unwillingly down the throats of people, ‘targeted’ adverts apparently. Indeed in some areas of life adverts are disliked so much people operate adblockers, or even pay to not see adverts. Netflix trades on being ad free. Indeed the good old BBC is under threat because it is not fuelled by advertising.
There are groups such as ‘adfree cities’, complaining about billboards, especially digital ones where there is visual pollution in too many places.
The creative skill and cleverness involved in the advertising industry is undeniable, but it is not a benevolent phenomena looking after your interests, or simple providers of information.
If adverts are inconsequential how come so much money is spent on what feels like a very pervasive and dishonest enterprise?
You may well see me as a hypocrite, but there are others who feel the same way.
The John Lewis Christmas advertising is getting to be an institution like the Morecambe and Wise show, but to my mind it is not wholesome fare, but a sophisticated exercise in manipulation.
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If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.1
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Santa was dressed in green until Coke Cola dressed him in red.Exiled_Addick said:Henry Irving said:
Have you noticed that Father Christmas never wears a poppy?Exiled_Addick said:Henry Irving said:I love Christmas.
I love Christmas traditions too like complaining that Christmas is too commercialised now, that the John Lewis Ad isn't as good as it was in the old days, that people use Xmas instead of Christmas, that somewhere unspecified, someone unnamed is "banning" Christmas.
All part of the run up to the holiday. It wouldn't be Christmas without them.
Seasons Greetings.
It's a disgrace how early Christmas starts these days. They won't even leave us time to get well and properly outraged at people not dressing from head to toe in poppies before they start on the capitalist indoctrination propaganda campaigns.
Wears red, no poppy, redistributes wealth under the guise of "delivering gifts" - it's a Marxist plot!0 -
Good to see the season of goodwill to all has started early on CL.3
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All this anger over a fucking Christmas ad!lindos480 said:Good to see the season of goodwill to all has started early on CL.3 -
Stop trying to manipulate me, please.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.1 -
now that I'd watchDaveMehmet said:
All this anger over a fucking Christmas ad!lindos480 said:Good to see the season of goodwill to all has started early on CL.4 -
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?0 -
Saw the John Lewis advert and now I bought myself a UFO. We’re being manipulated here, people.Addickted said:
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?2 -
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How to shoehorn racism into a thread about an advert that features a black boy and his family.
Or are we saying the alien should've been green?0 -
Some valid points is what I have tried to make.Addickted said:
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?
For many the validity of those points come second to considering who is making them.2 -
And still haven’t answered the question 🙄seth plum said:
Some valid points is what I have tried to make.Addickted said:
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?
For many the validity of those points come second to considering who is making them.1 -
I do remember, I don't know if it was self imposed or a TV company rule, but there was a time where you couldn't advertise any Christmas content until 1st December on the box.0
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Clearly John Lewis have manipulated our politicians into amending the law. This goes deeper than we think.MuttleyCAFC said:I do remember, I don't know if it was self imposed or a TV company rule, but there was a time where you couldn't advertise any Christmas content until 1st December on the box.0 -
kentaddick said:
Clearly John Lewis have manipulated our politicians into amending the law. This goes deeper than we think.MuttleyCAFC said:I do remember, I don't know if it was self imposed or a TV company rule, but there was a time where you couldn't advertise any Christmas content until 1st December on the box.
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Do you mean the question regarding wherever I make purchases?KBslittlesis said:
And still haven’t answered the question 🙄seth plum said:
Some valid points is what I have tried to make.Addickted said:
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?
For many the validity of those points come second to considering who is making them.
In all and sundry places, usually big businesses as smaller ones have been swallowed up.
The adverts are ubiquitous and pervasive and clever, that there is every chance that some of my purchases have happened because of letting my guard down and the manipulative techniques have got through.
Possibly in a similar way to how Matt Southall manipulated too trusting people.
Is that answer good enough for you?2 -
No. The question is quite clear as you well know - but you still refuse to answer.seth plum said:
Do you mean the question regarding wherever I make purchases?KBslittlesis said:
And still haven’t answered the question 🙄seth plum said:
Some valid points is what I have tried to make.Addickted said:
Some valid points, but once again you completely ignore the key questions asked of you and politically manipulate each and every post to suit your own narrative which is miles away from the original post.seth plum said:If you think my post today has no valid points, and they are ones you choose not to engage with, then of course you feel compelled to post your meaningless graphic.
Once again, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?
For many the validity of those points come second to considering who is making them.
In all and sundry places, usually big businesses as smaller ones have been swallowed up.
The adverts are ubiquitous and pervasive and clever, that there is every chance that some of my purchases have happened because of letting my guard down and the manipulative techniques have got through.
Possibly in a similar way to how Matt Southall manipulated too trusting people.
Is that answer good enough for you?
For the third time, I ask you, what was the last thing that John Lewis persuaded you to purchase from their store as a result of their Christmas advertisement?0 -
Jeez.
Probably anything I have ever bought from there.
The last thing I remember buying there was kitchen tongs.
Can you explain why your desire for me to answer your question is relevant?0 -
So despite you having been 'manipulated' by John Lewis, you have the cheek to lecture other people what to spend THEIR money on.
No one is being forced to purchase kitchen tongs because of advertising, they purchase them because they need them. (BTW you have a much better choice and value for money from E Bay - with free delivery).2 -
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Lidl’s Xmas ad is up.0
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I have not lectured anybody as to what to spend their money on.Addickted said:So despite you having been 'manipulated' by John Lewis, you have the cheek to lecture other people what to spend THEIR money on.
No one is being forced to purchase kitchen tongs because of advertising, they purchase them because they need them. (BTW you have a much better choice and value for money from E Bay - with free delivery).
You have made that up.
My posts have been about advertising, not purchasing.
I know nothing about eBay beyond thinking they oblige you to have pay pal.1 -
Fucking hell, you’re a loon mate2
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Really?
You’re qualified to assess another’s mental health are you?2 -
Nuttier than squirrel shitValleyGary said:Fucking hell, you’re a loon mate1 -
Take a break everyone and get back to the advert for gawds sake.4
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Right that's it, I'm ordering three guinea fowl this year instead of the usual two.
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