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carly burn
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With the organisation in its worst position since records began, is it wise to have a partially present CEO,who knows little about the industry responsible for the top to bottom operation of the club.?
TS needs to admit he requires help. I love his enthusiasm we are in the shit big time. It can't continue.
TS needs to admit he requires help. I love his enthusiasm we are in the shit big time. It can't continue.
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Think he needs a football manager to start with6
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TS did hire our current manager. What makes anyone think his next appointment will be any better? If so on what basis is this belief based? I think we need a CEO who knows the ins and outs of English Football. In the end the buck... and our current predicament... stops with him. Admitting he is not well positioned to run operations and make football decisions would be a good start.
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Yes we need a full time CEO but not having one is not the reason why we are so abysmal on the pitch3
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Absolutely. We're being led by a man who is a good bloke but knows very little about English league football.
Not seen anything from the current senior management team to suggest we're laying foundations for success.
Awful/ non existent recruitment "strategy", most expensive tickets I can remember for 3rd division dross and a hugely inexperienced (football wise) CEO overseeing it all from thousands of miles away.
Get a Varney in or someone who knows their way round otherwise nothing will change and it'll just be a lot of money wasted.
No direction or strategy on or off the pitch it seems.7 -
It’s something that has to happen. He can’t be here all the time and doesn’t know enough about English football to do it on his own.
He has new directors who have had to get to know the club and what we are about. And then he has another person in a senior role.
A CEO will help him and take away some pressure.
It has to be someone who has done it before and knows what the role is about.
When things are as bleak as they are, good business people recognise and take the help. Those who are too stubborn will often fail. No one can afford for this to fail.6 -
Our Senior Pros can afford for this to fail while in the last year of their contract.0
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It’s something that will happen, but people really need to stop thinking it’s the silver bullet that will stop the midfield going awol7
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How will this help the team???1
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I'm not sure a CEO is going to help one little bit. The only way it would is if that CEO was given Autonomy in the role. I don't see that happening, TS calls the shots, so any new CEO is going to be playing to his tune anyway.
I've worked in places like that where the Owner is effectively 100% in charge, it very rarely works having someone else in charge under them.3 - Sponsored links:
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Agree but it's the sum of all parts.Rothko said:It’s something that will happen, but people really need to stop thinking it’s the silver bullet that will stop the midfield going awol
I think even the most positive of posters might in retrospect think that the initial optimism of the last minute signings may have papered over the fact that it was last minute dealing rather than a well thought out and executed strategy.
Thing is from what I've read on here significant money has been spent so it was either spent too late (unavailable earlier on) or has been mispent. Of the new signings none of them seem like players who are both fit enough for 90 minutes in consecutive games and the players to take us forward and upwards over next few seasons.
Adkins is not good enough but it's been made clear his input on recruitment is limited and therefore it is the responsibility of those at the top.
I think it's a case of inexperience and limited capability from top to bottom at the moment.
Getting an experienced football CEO in to get us on the track for a couple of years whilst Sandgaard learns the game would probably be a useful move.2 -
From what I can see Roddy is the CEO on the football side (which is all we care about at the moment). He is just as big a problem as Adkins at presant. Appointing a CEO all the time Roddy is still there will have very little effect.
Roddy advised TS on the appointment of Adkins (like a CEO)
Roddy is in constant dialogue with TS after every game (like a CEO)
The scouting team report into him (like a CEO)
He oversaw the structure of the new recruitment process (like a CEO)
Adkins has to go but simply changing him and getting in a new CEO for me will not sort this mess.
If Roddy is such a great football person sack Adkins and put him in charge of the 1st team.6 -
I do wonder how Roddy affects us daily0
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But isn’t he the strategist, the one responsible for playing the ‘Charlton way’, the path to the first team, involvement in player recruitment? Still early days on how that will pan out but it’s not going too well at the moment is it 😞.Rothko said:
I don’t, because he doesn’t pick the team or do the training, he’s a very easy scapegoat to project anything ontoDazzler21 said:I do wonder how Roddy affects us daily1 -
Oh I don't know? The path to the first team seems to be very straightforward. Wait approximately 1 week and you will be starting.RedChaser said:
But isn’t he the strategist, the one responsible for playing the ‘Charlton way’, the path to the first team, involvement in player recruitment? Still early days on how that will pan out but it’s not going too well at the moment is it 😞.Rothko said:
I don’t, because he doesn’t pick the team or do the training, he’s a very easy scapegoat to project anything ontoDazzler21 said:I do wonder how Roddy affects us daily6 -
Gallen said himself that ultimately the final say on transfers come from the owner. On that basis I should think any other club related big decisions and outlays, also have to be signed off by the owner.
That's fine. But when your owner is halfway around the world and also running another large organisation at the same time would it not be a good idea to appoint someone with good experience of running a football organisation the authority to make those decisions quickly? Someone who is boots on the ground and has a constant live picture of what is going on from top to bottom.
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The Chairman is the owner of the ship and the CEO would be the Captain of the ship. The Manager of the team would be like the Boss of the engine room. The successful running of a football club goes beyond the leading of the team itself.0
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That’s obviously true in a normal business, less so in football, for one fundamental reason. A real CEO, in any business except football, has one over-riding KPI - optimise profit. That doesnt apply in football. The only thing a football “CEO” has in common with real ones, is the eye-watering salaries they’ve persuaded everyone they are entitled to. I doubt a single football club CEO would be hired by a company in any other industry for a comparable salary. I mean who else was going to pay Steve Waggott 200k? ( and that was how many year ago?).Rob7Lee said:I'm not sure a CEO is going to help one little bit. The only way it would is if that CEO was given Autonomy in the role. I don't see that happening, TS calls the shots, so any new CEO is going to be playing to his tune anyway.
I've worked in places like that where the Owner is effectively 100% in charge, it very rarely works having someone else in charge under them.That’s not to say they don’t play a useful role. Quite the contrary. The most appropriate title I suppose is General Manager, but that’s not sexy enough for them. Never mind. You definitely need someone with a strong working knowledge of footie, senior biz level experience from outside footie, and great management skills. But it all goes down to the owner creating the space, as you say and defining “autonomy”. The good thing is that Thomas will have been down this road before with his own company. And judging by the Athletic article, he is half way to concluding he needs to do the same here, perhaps a bit quicker than he hoped, ( because if you are a bizman who loves footie, and you get to buy a club, you’d only be human to suppose that you can be hands-on for a while).42 -
And the Director of Operations looks after the Galleyholyjo said:The Chairman is the owner of the ship and the CEO would be the Captain of the ship. The Manager of the team would be like the Boss of the engine room. The successful running of a football club goes beyond the leading of the team itself.
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