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iainment
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How humiliating is it to be subbed against Andorra?
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Big target. But the pitch is pretty flat. Should be really interesting.2
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England were huffing and puffing until the substitutions. I think the substitutions were for performance reasons not injury or tactical.mendonca said:
Makes no sense without your thoughts why?iainment said:How humiliating is it to be subbed against Andorra?
Andorran players play mainly in level 4, I think, of the Spanish league. The equivalent of League 2 here. England should do better against them.1 -
How much of an honour is it to be picked to play for your Country in a major Worldwide tournament?
At Wembley.3 -
They won 4-0 without getting out of first gear.iainment said:
England were huffing and puffing until the substitutions. I think the substitutions were for performance reasons not injury or tactical.mendonca said:
Makes no sense without your thoughts why?iainment said:How humiliating is it to be subbed against Andorra?
Andorran players play mainly in level 4, I think, of the Spanish league. The equivalent of League 2 here. England should do better against them.They could go and score about 8 past them if they really needed to, but they didn’t. They don’t want to risk injury going all out unnecessarily. It might not be the most exciting from a viewing perspective, but is the sensible approach.3 -
I understand that.cafctom said:
They won 4-0 without getting out of first gear.iainment said:
England were huffing and puffing until the substitutions. I think the substitutions were for performance reasons not injury or tactical.mendonca said:
Makes no sense without your thoughts why?iainment said:How humiliating is it to be subbed against Andorra?
Andorran players play mainly in level 4, I think, of the Spanish league. The equivalent of League 2 here. England should do better against them.They could go and score about 8 past them if they really needed to, but they didn’t. They don’t want to risk injury going all out unnecessarily. It might not be the most exciting from a viewing perspective, but is the sensible approach.0 -
Weird thread, should the starting 11 all play 90 mins just no one will be embarressed by being subbed?1
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Southgate mentioned before the game that Andorra have improved massively in terms of keeping the score down. They play 10 men plus their keeper in their own half, very narrow, compact, on the edge of their box and they aren’t afraid to get stuck in. The three subs were Bamford (who had no service), Bellingham (who was our best player in the first half) and James (a right back). All replaced with three very attacking players against a tiring side.iainment said:
England were huffing and puffing until the substitutions. I think the substitutions were for performance reasons not injury or tactical.mendonca said:
Makes no sense without your thoughts why?iainment said:How humiliating is it to be subbed against Andorra?
Andorran players play mainly in level 4, I think, of the Spanish league. The equivalent of League 2 here. England should do better against them.Do I think England should be disappointed in their performance for the first hour? Yes. However, we still won without breaking a sweat, scored 4 goals, and fringe players got a run out. I’m not sure what’s ‘humiliating’ about that.7 -
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It is difficult for a completely new side. It is surely better to make fewer changes -maybe four or five and then make subs when things are comfortable.0
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It’s becoming more and more common to see ‘shock’ results in qualifiers where big countries struggle to dominate against unfancied nations.
France drew with Bosnia, Italy drew with Bulgaria, Belgium conceded 2 against Estonia, Germany only managed to put 2 past Liechtenstein.
Yet when those countries go into a national tournament, most people won’t hold any of those results against them and will still look at them as being major threats. Why should it be any different for England?In truth, England very rarely get shown up in these sorts of games. It’s rarely thrilling, but certainly not humiliating.7 -
To be fair, once England scored they were always going to win. And they were always going to score at some point. A draw against Poland and they look uncatchable in the group.3
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The approach was absolutely fine. Andorra were undone simply because they got tired. Chances are that there would have been late goals no matter what the team England put out.MuttleyCAFC said:It is difficult for a completely new side. It is surely better to make fewer changes -maybe four or five and then make subs when things are comfortable.3 -
Remember last year when we had the meaninglessness game against San Marino and some other no hopers?
That's when Southgate first partnered up Phillips and Rice. He also tried 3 at the back for the first time in over 2 years. Both of those went a long way towards us doing well at the Euros.
He will have learnt things from yesterday that will help us in the world cup. That's the important thing.5 -
It depends on what you define as fine. We were unlikely to lose or draw so it was an opportunity to introduce some new caps like Bamford so why not do that with the better service to build confidence?thenewbie said:
The approach was absolutely fine. Andorra were undone simply because they got tired. Chances are that there would have been late goals no matter what the team England put out.MuttleyCAFC said:It is difficult for a completely new side. It is surely better to make fewer changes -maybe four or five and then make subs when things are comfortable.0 -
Malan getting out before lunch makes it more likely that India will win and more likely that England will win.0
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because 1)it's a results game and 2) none of the new caps are realistically going to be more than squad players anyway.MuttleyCAFC said:
It depends on what you define as fine. We were unlikely to lose or draw so it was an opportunity to introduce some new caps like Bamford so why not do that with the better service to build confidence?thenewbie said:
The approach was absolutely fine. Andorra were undone simply because they got tired. Chances are that there would have been late goals no matter what the team England put out.MuttleyCAFC said:It is difficult for a completely new side. It is surely better to make fewer changes -maybe four or five and then make subs when things are comfortable.
Do the job and save the legs of your best players. Which is what we did.1
