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Post-match Thread: Charlton v Wigan — 21/8/2021
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PWR … Glad I didn’t go. Had a feeling it was going to end in disappointment. But never mind … Walking is Brilliant1
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A bit like Naby Sarr at Wembley, if you are going to fuck it up, then fuck it up early in the game and give everybody a chance to put it right.SouthWest_Addicks said:Had a beer and thought about it. Players gave there all but aren’t good enough. Never looked like scoring. Feel sick saying this but you compare the quality of their subs (I.e, the guy who got their second) compared to ours and no where near the quality.3 defeats in a row in league 1 is a crisis for us. Not good enough and it’s already August and dreading this season.2 -
Did we really? I thought once again they controlled the last 20 like Oxford did and like MK Dons did.MuttleyCAFC said:We went for the three points at the death and it probably cost us one. I don't think one would have been a massive help and it was understandable. It didn't work, but it was understandable.We haven’t got the fitness at the end of games1 -
The recruitment team talk of patience but we are chucking our season away in order to pick up some bargain loanees at the end of the window.
Seriously worried, we play one up top with an immobile striker and no back ups to him whatsoever. Davison, Schwartz, Washington are not good enough if Stockley was injured... We can't even score with him in the team.
Aneke and Millar masked a lot last season and we never bothered to replace them. It is just weird.
As for the midfield, the vast bulk of them are simply not good enough. We have filled it with mediocre players who will not control games.10 -
We need to see the players that will make a difference come in. If we don't relegation isn't a certainty but it is a possibility. If we improve our goal threat, we could still be challenging at the top.2
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He might at least try to use the midfield though.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Can't really blame Adkins that much, i think Guardiola would struggle to get much out of this team.Todds_right_hook said:I’m mr positive. Fuck off adkins and your shitty walks. 4 defeats in 5. Time to go0 -
Never looked like scoring. Formation doesn't work. Keeper made some really good saves to keep us in it.
Midfield just isn't good enough. We're going to struggle to win many games1 -
I know this is a favourite point of mine, but we took three kick offs today and lost the ball within seconds of each one. The way we are playing, we are going to have many, many kick offs this season. Can we please do some work on not gifting possession to the opposition?2
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Why did we let Shinnie go, there was a player who could have been our number 10 a player with vision someone who could dictate play, someone who got forward and scored goals who could play that early ball down the side of the cbs . Instead of him we’ve got headless chickens in midfield who can run all day and night, but haven’t got a clue with the ball at their feet. Also when I said ts has got to get his wallet out and buy in pre season less bombarded with comments like , I like the way people spend other people’s money and other dickhead comments like that.10
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What midfield??The Red Robin said:
He might at least try to use the midfield though.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Can't really blame Adkins that much, i think Guardiola would struggle to get much out of this team.Todds_right_hook said:I’m mr positive. Fuck off adkins and your shitty walks. 4 defeats in 5. Time to go2 -
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The worst Charlton team I have am seen since going in the mid 70s. We don’t even look like we are going to do anything l, let alone score or dare I say it win a game . The first time in my life I wasn’t really up for going football.
I never ever thought I would our team in the bottom four of League 1.
This week is going to be massive, it will show intent, ambition and recognising how shit we are. If nothing happens this week I can see Adkins walking3 -
You can shuffle it all around but if you have too many players with no goal scoring history who don't know how to even get into goal scoring positions, what formation will work?BigRedEvil said:Never looked like scoring. Formation doesn't work. Keeper made some really good saves to keep us in it.
Midfield just isn't good enough. We're going to struggle to win many games3 -
16mogodon said:Just out of interest, how many players short do people think we are of being a decent side for this division1 -
That team is going to go into every game dreading it, especially home games.
I've backed Morgan all along but doay his head wasn't in it, he was scared everytime he got the ball and played cautious.
Hard to find a positive other than two very good saves that made me think we have a keeper.
I could go on about very players weakness today but in all honesty I can't be arsed, neither could they.5 -
bingoValleyGary said:Adkins isn’t blameless in the last 5 games. Yes the team isn’t great but his tactics, approach and game management leave a lot to be desired.0 -
Did we?MuttleyCAFC said:We went for the three points at the death1 -
I'd sooner have genital warts than James McClean in the side. Things ain't that badSouthWest_Addicks said:Had a beer and thought about it. Players gave there all but aren’t good enough. Never looked like scoring. Feel sick saying this but you compare the quality of their subs (I.e, the guy who got their second) compared to ours and no where near the quality.3 defeats in a row in league 1 is a crisis for us. Not good enough and it’s already August and dreading this season.2 -
We did, by playing two up front but it didn't work because Wigan exploited the midfield gaps and we couldn't get the ball to them. We were more solid with the three but probably wouldn't score if we were still playing.0
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The last premiership team to name a starting team numbered 1 to 11 before Burnley today?
Charlton in 1998.0 -
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Addicks to victory isn't going to get much of an airing this season14
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Agree with this. And that is not knocking Morgan, because he was trying his hardest. But having seen most of his games in League One he currently lacks several qualities that a 10 or CM really should have. The problem is at the moment we have no one else.Chunes said:
I'm not basing that on one performance. He doesn't have the quality or the brain to play as a 10 and he doesn't have the defensive side of his game to play as a CM. I'm not sure what he is, other than not ready for this level.killerandflash said:
He was no worse than anyone else out there, other than MacGChunes said:I've given up on Morgan. He's a lost cause. Even the players look like they've had enough of him.2 -
Difficult in finding any positives to be honest. I think we can put thoughts of promotion to bed. Things can only get better from this. As we’ve done to death it hard to apportion blame but something has gone spectacularly wrong.2
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If you want to be successful a number 10 should be looking to get into or very close to double figures for goals and assists, I can't see Morgan doing either.AddickNL88 said:
Agree with this. And that is not knocking Morgan, because he was trying his hardest. But having seen most of his games in League One he currently lacks several qualities that a 10 or CM really should have. The problem is at the moment we have no one else.Chunes said:
I'm not basing that on one performance. He doesn't have the quality or the brain to play as a 10 and he doesn't have the defensive side of his game to play as a CM. I'm not sure what he is, other than not ready for this level.killerandflash said:
He was no worse than anyone else out there, other than MacGChunes said:I've given up on Morgan. He's a lost cause. Even the players look like they've had enough of him.1 -
Crowd was bloody immense for most the game.8
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TS has given us a bigger budget than most teams. Very few have spent as much money as us. Stockley £750k (outbidding Portsmouth) £500k on Kirk and others.J BLOCK said:People blaming Adkins are mad, it’s TS who has the cheque book and he’s given us a budget that gets us Dobson and Clare. Can’t describe how pissed off I am.
As for Dobson and Clare, I'm not sure who signed them but in case you didn't notice Clare didn't play today!
Tactics were dreadful. That was our biggest downfall1 -
Come back Roland, all is forgiven!
....would be a ridiculous thing to say right now.2 -
We need another CB because those two won't stay fit all season, 1x LB, 3 midfielders, a #10 X 2 because we can all see that Albie isn't going to cut it, and another CF to support JS.
I doubt we'll get half that.
What's pissing people off is TS' claims pre season of what to expect, and that expectation was to win the league.
Currently our midfield is weaker than last year's. Our forward line is weaker than last year's, as too our defense, with IM going back to chelsea. We won't win half our games let alone promotion with that strategy.
Theses 1 answer to all this. TS has to spend money, In for a penny, in for a pound.3 -
Sorry but that’s just fucking rude.Callumcafc said:
Broken clock is right twice a daygolfaddick said:Will post later once I'm home.
But now you have to believe that I have been right all along.
He has been right. You may not like it and your may take umbridge to feeling like it’s deliberately winding people up.
But he’s right.15 -
Clare was injured I think materedman said:
TS has given us a bigger budget than most teams. Very few have spent as much money as us. Stockley £750k (outbidding Portsmouth) £500k on Kirk and others.J BLOCK said:People blaming Adkins are mad, it’s TS who has the cheque book and he’s given us a budget that gets us Dobson and Clare. Can’t describe how pissed off I am.
As for Dobson and Clare, I'm not sure who signed them but in case you didn't notice Clare didn't play today!
Tactics were dreadful. That was our biggest downfall0
