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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,220
    Cafc43v3r said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…

    One goal Ronnie anybody?
    I'm still not convinced he will play for us.
    Still expecting him to go back to Denmark. 
    There will be a deadline day round up on the OS and the final line will be...

    "Ronnie Schwartz has joined Danish Club xxxxx for an undisclosed fee"

    And that will be that. 
    Or signs for Morecambe?
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,897
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
    He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendlies 
    And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night? 
    The under 18’s
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    Dazzler21 said:
    "Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."

    Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
    Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside. 

    He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.

    I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)

    Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too 
    Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routine
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
    He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendlies 
    And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night? 
    The under 18’s
    Who already have there own friendlies.  Who would play in them the u8s?

    Its déjà vu all over again :p
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    killerandflash said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    "Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."

    Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
    Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside. 

    He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.

    I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)

    Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too 
    Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routine
    Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.

    I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it. 

    I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,208
    Cafc43v3r said:
    blackpool72 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…

    One goal Ronnie anybody?
    I'm still not convinced he will play for us.
    Still expecting him to go back to Denmark. 
    There will be a deadline day round up on the OS and the final line will be...

    "Ronnie Schwartz has joined Danish Club xxxxx for an undisclosed fee"

    And that will be that. 
    ‘Ronnie Schwartz has joined Wrexham for a fee of £4 million plus add ons.’
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,897
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
    He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendlies 
    And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night? 
    The under 18’s
    Who already have there own friendlies.  Who would play in them the u8s?

    Its déjà vu all over again :p
    Deja vu of me trying to post smart arse comments without reading all posts and not realising somebody beat me to it by 8 hours
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,965
    It’s a weird one - kinda feels like TS has got away with brushing this one under the carpet. His marquee signing has been more budget tent from Millets
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    KTodds_right_hook said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    RonnieMoore said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Yeah definitely don't see how that's critical of him. Just sounds like he's starting his pre-season a month behind everyone else
    He most likey doing the same as Inniss working away from the group on a diff program .. surprised there been no under 23 friendlies 
    And who exactly would we play in an u23 friendly that didn't play last night? 
    The under 18’s
    Who already have there own friendlies.  Who would play in them the u8s?

    Its déjà vu all over again :p
    Deja vu of me trying to post smart arse comments without reading all posts and not realising somebody beat me to it by 8 hours
    Be honest, you thought you were on the rumours thread and so would be alright. 😉

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,014
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    "Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."

    Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
    Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside. 

    He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.

    I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)

    Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too 
    Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routine
    Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.

    I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it. 

    I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
    I've no ill feeling towards him, but he has to shows he wants to make a go of it in England, or it's better we cut our losses now, and he returns home and the club writes it off as "one of those transfer failures that happens sometimes"

    Our record with goal scorer transfers, since the PL years has been pretty patchy really

    Luke Varney, Izale McLeod, Paul Benson, Nicky Ajose have all disappointed, after being (for their times) relatively big buys
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,761
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    "Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."

    Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
    Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside. 

    He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.

    I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)

    Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too 
    Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routine
    Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.

    I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it. 

    I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
    But he's so far off the pace he's not even worth a 15 minute run in a PSF. That's not really good enough, 2 weeks from the season's opener. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    You can list all of the sub par strikers we have had over the decades but I honestly don't recall a player that the manager thought so badly of he didn't even bring him on, when he had 5 subs, in a must win game at 0-0 at home.

    At that stage he wasn't 5th choice of 5 or what ever he was literally 2nd choice of 2 and still didn't get on. 
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    killerandflash said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    "Ronnie Schwartz is a bit short at the moment, he needs a bit more work, but at least he's in at the training ground now and running round a bit."

    Hardly critical, Adkins is talking about fitness not his quality and he's right.
    Schwartz had been away for his personal stuff and on returning had to isolate, but he's back at the training ground now and has started running outside. 

    He's likely not been frozen out but is working with the fitness guys until he's fit enough to start interacting with the contact side of training. I'd be surprised if he's not back in the group by Sunday.

    I don't think he's ever going to be the equivalent of Washington, Davison or Stockley as he's not quick or physical enough for those roles. He's more your 18 yard box finisher, but his fitness coming in last January was nowhere near where it needed to be. The slower games in the Danish division are probably the main reason (as suggested by our Danish based posters)

    Sounds like some people don't want to give him a chance. Hopefully Ronnie is willing to work for his chance too 
    Yes he can't work on the technical stuff by himself, but he can still keep himself fit, as he hasn't been ill. Running in the park, doing weights whether in the gym (I don't know if they're open in Denmark) or at home. Indeed surely the club medics would have given him a fitness routine
    Yes you have general fitness programmes and then you have getting match fit/sharp.

    I'm not discounting the potential that he can't be fudged or that he's past it. 

    I just don't want to give up on him yet. If he leaves so be it. Will be a case of it just didn't work out, rather than any ill feelings. I doubt that's the same for all of us.
    I've no ill feeling towards him, but he has to shows he wants to make a go of it in England, or it's better we cut our losses now, and he returns home and the club writes it off as "one of those transfer failures that happens sometimes"

    Our record with goal scorer transfers, since the PL years has been pretty patchy really

    Luke Varney, Izale McLeod, Paul Benson, Nicky Ajose have all disappointed, after being (for their times) relatively big buys

    Paul benson did his job, put the ball in the back of the net when we played to his strengths. But he was a very one dimensional striker. Bit unfair to put him in the same list tbh
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,479
    Benson scored 10 in 33 league games, decent record, he was just a very limited player and offered little outside the box. We knew what we were getting though. The others were supposed to be goalscorers with pace and/or a better all round game.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,113
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,728
    Callumcafc said:
    I remember last summer when people were calling out to-be top scorer “one goal Chuks”…

    One goal Ronnie anybody?
    He has to touch the ball 1st so I'd go with one touch Ronnie.
  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 379
    He's not going to make it is he? A pity.

  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    varney was decent but nowhere near his valuation of 2 mil, if he'd have been 500k at the time i think we would've been happy. Mcloud was the worst though, barring a couple of sub appearances where he looked electric and won a pen he was dire. Genuinely thought we had the next bent on our hands.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,113
    kentaddick said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    varney was decent but nowhere near his valuation of 2 mil, if he'd have been 500k at the time i think we would've been happy. Mcloud was the worst though, barring a couple of sub appearances where he looked electric and won a pen he was dire. Genuinely thought we had the next bent on our hands.
    All I'll ever remember Mcleod for was the elbow at Northwich. 

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,113
    Dazzler21 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
    Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,890
    MarcusH26 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
    Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely. 
    Easily done seeing he's out working for BEin Sports now
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Dazzler21 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
    ah yes, didn't pardew then proceed to refuse to ever play the two together again?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,890
    Dazzler21 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
    That was the game when Powell scored in his final ever game

    Hard to believe that Kasper Schmeichel was the Goalkeeper given we beat Coventry 4-1
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    edited July 2021
    MarcusH26 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Bar that game against Palace , Varney was a disappointment. Thought we were getting an out and out goalscorer there. 
    He also had that game where he played off Andy Gray and looked like a real partnership could form. 
    Honestly I forget Andy Gray from that era completely. 
    I feel like it was right at the end of the season? Coventry maybe?

    *edit it was Powell's last game for us, when he scored in the last minutes... Had such a feel good factor.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biF7XGPmMus
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,506
    Adkins on Ronnie Schwartz: He's a long way from being involved in Saturday's game. He won't be considered for the game on Saturday.


    So he's got to be leaving this window right? 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,080
    SELR_addicks said:
    Adkins on Ronnie Schwartz: He's a long way from being involved in Saturday's game. He won't be considered for the game on Saturday.


    So he's got to be leaving this window right? 
    I don’t know what’s happened, but unless we bring in another striker I would prefer Schwartz stays in the hope that he can at least be an effective squad player in L1.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,890
    edited July 2021
    We play AFC Wimbledon in the League Cup on 10th August, and then Crawley in the EFL Trophy on 31st August

    Two very decent games to give him minutes in to try and prove himself

    If he's not involved by the latter then I really dont see the point in him being here - Summer Transfer Window closes 2nd Sept so we've got until the Crawley game to see if there is any point in keeping him and then we can get rid a few days later worst case.

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