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England v Germany - Match Thread
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Italians laughed at crying Germans in 2006, Germans laughed at crying Brazilians in 2014. We’re allowed to get a smidge of enjoyment out of this one.North Lower Neil said:
Christ really? Any reaction but sympathy is bizarre - she's not some pissed up opposition fan giving it large beforehand, she's a kid.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
Watched the game (at home) with my own daughter who is probably a couple of years younger, and pretty obvious the shoe could have been on the other foot.
The comments from a couple of teenage wrong’uns on Twitter are clearly well over the line and the kids involved should be getting a doorstep visit from the local police IMO.2 -
I can only really think of Spain in Euro 2012. They beat France and obviously Italy in the final 4-0, but still took them a pen shootout to get past Portugal.Cafc43v3r said:I logged off at about 4 yesterday. I have just read all the comments since, some outstanding mental gymnastics from some, back peddling and admittedly some admitting they were wrong.
Southgate got that spot on, apart from the first 10 minutes England were brilliant. The way we controlled the tempo from the back and only went forward when the Germans over committed. Outstanding.
Not only 4 clean sheets but apart from Muller's I don't think we have conceded a proper chance in 4 games.
I think some people need to get their history books out and look how other teams have won tournaments in the past. Because with one or two standout exceptions it's been by playing like we are. Brazil in 1970 was over 50 years ago and I don't think there has been anything like it since?
Back to 433 in Rome, I would imagine and even after last night Southgate will get pelters for his selection. I fancy he will get it spot on, again.1 -
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It appears that Twitter is like some kind of dogwhistle to the mentally ill. It does far more harm than good to society, IMHO.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
And abusing Sterling, the man who inspired us to a historic win and who has propelled us through the tournament with his goals? Christ.
I know that some of a particular political persuasion will never be happy when England do well, and that there are a sizeable portion of folk in the Celtic nations that hate us too (as well as home grown racists who give Stirling and other black players grief whatever the do), but surely we are at a point where we can no longer allow the running sore that is Twitter to give cowards a licence to anonymously spread hate at will.
As I have said before, I have no idea why a verified account system has not been introduced so that those in the public eye (and anyone else for that matter) can choose to only receive tweets from traceable accounts. Given the demonstrable stupidity of the human race, it would probably not stop all the abuse, but at least it would make hateful cowards responsible for their actions.
Fuck Twitter. I detest it. Bill Hicks was right; we're just a virus with shoes.9 -
look at sir Chris as wellCafc43v3r said:21 -
I hate social media. The ONLY website/message thingy i am on is this one. I came off the Facebook tit a year ago and feel so much better for it. Its a disease , an illness that will be the end of us. My daughters generation know no different and the box is opened and cant be shut. I despair.bigstemarra said:
It appears that Twitter is like some kind of dogwhistle to the mentally ill. It does far more harm than good to society, IMHO.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
And abusing Sterling, the man who inspired us to a historic win and who has propelled us through the tournament with his goals? Christ.
I know that some of a particular political persuasion will never be happy when England do well, and that there are a sizeable portion of folk in the Celtic nations that hate us too (as well as home grown racists who give Stirling and other black players grief whatever the do), but surely we are at a point where we can no longer allow the running sore that is Twitter to give cowards a licence to anonymously spread hate at will.
As I have said before, I have no idea why a verified account system has not been introduced so that those in the public eye (and anyone else for that matter) can choose to only receive tweets from traceable accounts. Given the demonstrable stupidity of the human race, it would probably not stop all the abuse, but at least it would make hateful cowards responsible for their actions.
Fuck Twitter. I detest it. Bill Hicks was right; we're just a virus with shoes.6 -
Hojimmymelrose said:
Bizarre comment. After all, it's not as if the UK have put France or Germany on the green list.thickandthin63 said:
With you on that one,stood absolutely dumbfounded outside my house when we lost that.Wonder what Macron and Merkel are thinking about Plague Island and little Englanders this morning.bobmunro said:cfgs said:I genuinely think you have to be old enough to remember Italia 90 to truly appreciate last night. You youngsters enjoy the victory but us veterans lived the pain.I won't disagree. I'll add 1970 as well because I'm really old!Lots of ghosts exorcised yesterday.
How did so many German fans attend the match. Do they live in the UK?0 -
Yes, Greenhithe - Pandora's box is a very apt analogy.
Social media just seems like a tool to enable humans to wage war on each other on a personal level, the magnitude of which was not possible before.
If this is progress, stop the ride - I want to get off.0 -
Of course he can, because we won.thenewbie said:
I think Southgate can rather more justifiably point to the fact that bringing him on when he did was a planned tactical move that changed the game in our favour and probably worth repeating in tight games.MuttleyCAFC said:I have to be honest and say I couldn't see that first goal coming. It felt like a 50/50 game, but we are due one of those against them. There is no point criticising Southgate, he isn't going to change but I would argue he got away with it a bit yesterday. Fortunately Germany are not that good, but we can expect to face a team that isn't that good all the way to the final now. I think the fans calling for Grealish to start can point to the fact that we looked far more dangerous when he came on! I do hope Southgate can see it is worth starting him.0 -
Clearly those calling a 10-year-old girl, or however old she is, a "N*zi sl*t" are a special kind of vermin. But who knows if they were teenagers or not?Callumcafc said:
Italians laughed at crying Germans in 2006, Germans laughed at crying Brazilians in 2014. We’re allowed to get a smidge of enjoyment out of this one.North Lower Neil said:
Christ really? Any reaction but sympathy is bizarre - she's not some pissed up opposition fan giving it large beforehand, she's a kid.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
Watched the game (at home) with my own daughter who is probably a couple of years younger, and pretty obvious the shoe could have been on the other foot.
The comments from a couple of teenage wrong’uns on Twitter are clearly well over the line and the kids involved should be getting a doorstep visit from the local police IMO.
The laughing at a child crying was not reserved for them though. It was in a lot of pubs around the country, not just twitter. There's a huge gulf between getting a smidge of enjoyment - come on, we all thoroughly enjoyed that to the fullest - and that sort of obnoxious behaviour. Some people are just unbearable when they win.3 - Sponsored links:
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@oohaahmortimer I don’t remember it at all so knowing hurlimans i probably was there.oohaahmortimer said:
Omg that's a blast from the past , watched the palace v man utd cup final replay in there 1990 and was fucking trashed on Hürlimann Beer also known as hooligans , do they still sell it down there ...... not sure if we watched the first drawn one down therecafctom said:Absolutely steaming. Great night down the Anglesey Arms in Woolwich.
For those of you who were determined to criticise England/Southgate at every move, hope you’re feeling as embarrassed as you should be.
@paulbaconsarnie and @ThreadKiller were there as well
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Watching that, I really, really, really want Southgate to succeed.Cafc43v3r said:Initial reaction of a fan to the goal but then composes himself brilliantly.13 -
No-one was abusing a little girl, were they? If so, where? On Twitter or at the stadium? What did they say?ValleyGary said:
Again, only thing I’ve seen of that is on the shitty side of Twitter, mostly dopey teenagers. The commentator even said we don’t want to see that.Vincenzo said:I think people cheering and abusing the little girl crying shows the nasty side of our country that many detest.0 -
Kids crying is never a good look. A grown man crying would have been funny.Vincenzo said:
Clearly those calling a 10-year-old girl, or however old she is, a "N*zi sl*t" are a special kind of vermin. But who knows if they were teenagers or not?Callumcafc said:
Italians laughed at crying Germans in 2006, Germans laughed at crying Brazilians in 2014. We’re allowed to get a smidge of enjoyment out of this one.North Lower Neil said:
Christ really? Any reaction but sympathy is bizarre - she's not some pissed up opposition fan giving it large beforehand, she's a kid.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
Watched the game (at home) with my own daughter who is probably a couple of years younger, and pretty obvious the shoe could have been on the other foot.
The comments from a couple of teenage wrong’uns on Twitter are clearly well over the line and the kids involved should be getting a doorstep visit from the local police IMO.
The laughing at a child crying was not reserved for them though. It was in a lot of pubs around the country, not just twitter. There's a huge gulf between getting a smidge of enjoyment - come on, we all thoroughly enjoyed that to the fullest - and that sort of obnoxious behaviour. Some people are just unbearable when they win.1 -
And fair game too.MuttleyCAFC said:
Kids crying is never a good look. A grown man crying would have been funny.Vincenzo said:
Clearly those calling a 10-year-old girl, or however old she is, a "N*zi sl*t" are a special kind of vermin. But who knows if they were teenagers or not?Callumcafc said:
Italians laughed at crying Germans in 2006, Germans laughed at crying Brazilians in 2014. We’re allowed to get a smidge of enjoyment out of this one.North Lower Neil said:
Christ really? Any reaction but sympathy is bizarre - she's not some pissed up opposition fan giving it large beforehand, she's a kid.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
Watched the game (at home) with my own daughter who is probably a couple of years younger, and pretty obvious the shoe could have been on the other foot.
The comments from a couple of teenage wrong’uns on Twitter are clearly well over the line and the kids involved should be getting a doorstep visit from the local police IMO.
The laughing at a child crying was not reserved for them though. It was in a lot of pubs around the country, not just twitter. There's a huge gulf between getting a smidge of enjoyment - come on, we all thoroughly enjoyed that to the fullest - and that sort of obnoxious behaviour. Some people are just unbearable when they win.0 -
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And fair game too.MuttleyCAFC said:
Kids crying is never a good look. A grown man crying would have been funny.Vincenzo said:
Clearly those calling a 10-year-old girl, or however old she is, a "N*zi sl*t" are a special kind of vermin. But who knows if they were teenagers or not?Callumcafc said:
Italians laughed at crying Germans in 2006, Germans laughed at crying Brazilians in 2014. We’re allowed to get a smidge of enjoyment out of this one.North Lower Neil said:
Christ really? Any reaction but sympathy is bizarre - she's not some pissed up opposition fan giving it large beforehand, she's a kid.Dazzler21 said:I don't mind the laughing, but people calling her a C and a slut on twitter is a bit much.
Watched the game (at home) with my own daughter who is probably a couple of years younger, and pretty obvious the shoe could have been on the other foot.
The comments from a couple of teenage wrong’uns on Twitter are clearly well over the line and the kids involved should be getting a doorstep visit from the local police IMO.
The laughing at a child crying was not reserved for them though. It was in a lot of pubs around the country, not just twitter. There's a huge gulf between getting a smidge of enjoyment - come on, we all thoroughly enjoyed that to the fullest - and that sort of obnoxious behaviour. Some people are just unbearable when they win.
I love a bit of schadenfreude. I wonder if the Germans have a word for it.
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The more I think about it the more I think Southgates decision to keep Kane on the pitch could be the pivotal moment for us in this tournament.
Plenty of people,me included thought he just wasn't doing it and quite frankly having a mare. When he went down clutching his thigh it looked like a cry for help to me and he wanted out.
As he walked back and gave GS the thumbs up I thought he lacked the balls to take him off. But that reassurance from GS seemed to spur Kane on and he was like a different player after.
If you take your captain and main goal threat off, a sense of panic could well have filtered it's way through the side.
We could well be out today.
Who knows how Kane will be from now on? but it wouldn't surprise me to see him turn the next few games on their heads.
Here's hoping!As I said, a pivotal moment for me.1 -
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Look at our squad depth it's ridiculous. A starting XI made up from the players who didn't start with last night's formation. I couldn't even fit in Rashford or Bellingham!
We certainly have the most depth left in the tournament and if we go all the way that should pay off. Players like Rashford, Foden, Sancho will be fresh in the semis and finals.
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It’s too late now -would need to self isolate in Rome for 5 days.tom_k said:Is anyone here going to Rome?0 -
He was trending on twitter a little while ago due to the number of people pointing out him going mental in the backgroundroseandcrown said:
look at sir Chris as wellCafc43v3r said:
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In the real world it’s be Bellingham and Henderson in the middle but the point stands. I can’t remember a time when England had this kind of depth. The ability to change it up, rest players, change the system etc. is huge.Braziliance said:Look at our squad depth it's ridiculous. A starting XI made up from the players who didn't start with last night's formation. I couldn't even fit in Rashford or Bellingham!
We certainly have the most depth left in the tournament and if we go all the way that should pay off. Players like Rashford, Foden, Sancho will be fresh in the semis and finals.0 -
Be interesting to see how Southgate approaches this game against Ukraine
Foden, Maguire, Rice and Phillips are all on single yellow cards
Do you rest them for Ukraine as bookings get wiped clear after the QFs or does he take the risk?
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Dont the yellow cards get wiped now ?0
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He could quite easily rest Rice and Philips for Henderson and Bellingham and it would barely weaken the side. Similarly Mings could come back in for Maguire with significantly weakening the side.0
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Nope after the Quarter-FinalsAndyG said:Dont the yellow cards get wiped now ?1 -
Then Southgate should rotate no point in risking suspensions I think we will have enough to beat Ukraine whoever he starts. Denmark however another matter I have a feeling the Eriksen situation has galvanised them and it just might be written in the stars2
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Would you rotate Maguire for Mings though...AndyG said:Then Southgate should rotate no point in risking suspensions I think we will have enough to beat Ukraine whoever he starts. Denmark however another matter I have a feeling the Eriksen situation has galvanised them and it just might be written in the stars
Ukraine should be beatable, but do you really want to risk the defence0
