Euro 2020 Thread

We do need to find some momentum and tonight would be a good place to start.

jimmymelrose said:

Callumcafc said:

colthe3rd said:

LawrieAbrahams said:

I don't think there is an obvious weaker half of the draw, unlike in 2018, so it's more important to play well, beat the Czechs and stay at Wembley. 

No quarter finals are at Wembley so it's only the second round game. Either finish top and play a very strong side at wembley, finish second probably play Sweden (though it could easily be Spain or anyone in that group) in Copenhagen. I'm not sure what I'd prefer really, keep changing my mind each time I look.

The game in Copenhagen will be against Spain if Sweden beat Poland, which I think is likely. Bookies discounting the Swedish odds because Poland need a result but Poland are pants when it matters in these big tournaments.

Theoretical path if we draw and land in the top half: Spain -> France -> Belgium/Italy -> Netherlands/Germany/Portugal

Theoretical path if we win and go into the bottom half: Germany/Portugal -> Sweden -> Netherlands -> Belgium/Italy/France

Callumcafc said:

jimmymelrose said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Karim_myBagheri said:

just to clarify for my little brain, are the groups decided by head to head first rather than goal difference? 

Yes

That's what I thought but that's not what I found when looking it up earlier:

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/soccer/news/euro-2021-how-best-third-3rd-place-teams-advance-groups/6ce5esvedrun17nh2ghj0ion8

That's how they rank all the third placed teams, one from each group. Which makes sense because head to head doesn't exist, they haven't played each other.

The groups themselves go by head to head, then by goal difference etc.

Ok, so best if we lose and finish 3rd. Then we'll get Poland, Austria, Sweden and Australia.

Sure but if you want a serious answer for a moment. 

I can't see Scotland beating Croatia, which is the only way third place could be a possibility. They celebrated a draw too much. They may have deserved more but they got a draw so not much to jump about for unless you are happy being a loser

Well blow me down, they were threatening to hold it in Hungary with a 57,000 capacity.

To be fair there has only been one Tournament where England have gotten maximum points from the initial group stage so the fact we've drawn one doesnt change much historically 

stoneroses19 said:

For those wanting a draw or loss tonight to make second round easier, you only have to think of Euro 2016 when everyone thought we had an easier game against Iceland. 

I think that result was the result of disunity in the squad just a day or two after the referendum. Brexit caused a lot of disagreements and I'd be surprised if the England players weren't affected.

MrOneLung said:

jimmymelrose said:

stoneroses19 said:

For those wanting a draw or loss tonight to make second round easier, you only have to think of Euro 2016 when everyone thought we had an easier game against Iceland. 

I think that result was the result of disunity in the squad just a day or two after the referendum. Brexit caused a lot of disagreements and I'd be surprised if the England players weren't affected.

WTF ! 

I think Jimmy’s on a wind up or he’s been on the vino, which is what they do this time of day in France  🍷 😉.

In my childish way I'm looking forward to an evening of repeatedly shouting "You’re Schick ahhhhhhhh" at the telly.

North Lower Neil said:

I used my wildcard thing on the fantasy league this week, as I thought loads of my team would be rested etc.

Without exception, every time I chose player A over player B, player B has scored.

I came so close to putting in Shaquiri, Damsgaard, Maehle and Wijnaldum who've scored 6 so far this week.

Oh and I took out Lukaku as I thought they'd rest him.

First decent shout of the match week - Perisic. 

Well that’s fucking shit!

3 games, 1 point, 1 goal simply isn’t good enough if you want to get out of the group’s 

back to supporting whoever you pricks are playing 😉

Well i for one wish them well next time in 2046!

Callumcafc said:

For anyone that needs help keeping track of the third placed teams etc...



Round of 16 fixtures:

26 June:
In Amsterdam, Wales will play Denmark
In London, Italy will play Austria

27 June:
In Seville, Belgium will play Switzerland (25%), Group E third (50%) or Group F third (25%).
In Budapest, Netherlands will play Czech Republic (75%) or Group F third (25%).

28 June:
In Copenhagen, Croatia will play the runner up of Group E.
In Bucharest, the winner of Group F will play Switzerland (75%) or Ukraine (25%).

29 June: 
In London, England will play the runner up of Group F.
In Glasgow, the winner of Group E will play Finland (25%), Ukraine (50%) or Czech Republic (25%).

To take this a step further, it's fairly safe to assume Group F will have three teams qualify based on the market odds available (shorter than 1/10 on both Germany and Portugal).

This narrows the possibilities down from 4 to only 2 (between Ukraine and Group E for the last qualifying spot, sorry Finland). From there, the third placed possibilities look like this:

In Seville, Belgium will play Group E third (50%) or Group F third (50%).

In Budapest, Netherlands will play Czech Republic (50%) or Group F third (50%).

In Bucharest, the winner of Group F will play Switzerland.

In Glasgow, the winner of Group E will play Ukraine (50%) or Czech Republic (50%).

Maybe Scotland will become a better team when they look determined and frustrated getting a draw with England rather than celebrating like they have won something! They certainly edged the Wembley match but look who tops the Group and who is bottom!