Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well

Do what?

So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?

Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.

But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion.  Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions. 

wmcf123 said:

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well

Do what?

So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?

Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.

But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion.  Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions. 

You don’t strike me as a big words kind of guy

Cafc43v3r said:

Shrew said:

.....following the theme, a not quite ex player  Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?

Slow? 

Cafc43v3r said:

Billy_Mix said:

Callumcafc said:

He’s not as young as I thought, being 28 already but on the other hand, goalkeepers do peak later and he could be entering the best years of his career.

With Amos, he’s solid enough at this level but I don’t think there’s a realistic shot that he is a first choice goalkeeper for anyone in the Championship. He’s had the chance at a handful of clubs and never been able to keep the shirt.

CMG (yes, that’s his new name) has never been tested at that level. So... he may be good, he may flop. 

But one thing is for sure, we know the “floor” (top end L1) of both talents is about the same. And we know Amos’ “ceiling” (struggling Champ) isn’t much higher than that floor whereas we’d have to wait and see just how good CMG can be.


It’s definitely an either or conversation. Can’t see any world in which we carry both players.

We will definitely need 3rd division standard cover for injury/suspension - Amos being available for all 46 league starts was a fluke, a goaly often has the most starts in a squad but 100% can't be taken for granted.  We'll not be planning on "carrying" anybody but we need adequate cover for all positions, goaly's not one where we'll get away with a non-specialist.
Scott Carson's gonna be available...

Are you suggesting Scott Carson will swap a place in the City squad for sitting on our bench? 

AddickUpNorth said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

RedRobin said:

Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys! 

To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction

in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.

But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.

Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?

I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.

I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.

Todds_right_hook said:

TheAddicks4Ever said:

Anyone seen any prospective  players down at Asda? 

Williams and Taylor, they were buying beer to take to Jordan cousins flat which is next to greenhithe Asda, for a welcome home party. 

Pigott is a bit further west, he is in Asda in BexleyHeath. 

Shrew said:

.....following the theme, a not quite ex player  Yanick Bolasie (I seem to remember he was not granted an overseas permit to join us) is now without a contract, slow 32yr old winger anyone ?

Billy_Mix said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

RedRobin said:

Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys! 

To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction

in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.

But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.

Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?

I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.

Lawrie Wilson, turned out to be alright 2nd time around
Danny Green started his youth football with us, was definitely better than that 9 years later
Danny Haynes similar but less so
Jason Euell was a shadow of his former self when he returned in 2011 but was an able squad player for 3rd division football in that title winning season and his time with us since then has been worthwhile, hasn't it?

SoundAsa£ said:

RonnieMoore said:

Nigel Adkins was in town today .... 

The Valley, Sparrows Lane, The Royal Oak, up in town?

LargeAddick said:

AddickUpNorth said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

RedRobin said:

Cousins will no doubt end up at Luton as Jones took him to Stoke and was his coach in our academy. Move on guys! 

To team up at Luton with Joe Pigott, strangely a former player who doesn't draw the same "we must never sign old players" reaction

in my opinion Piggott played once or twice for us, was released and has gone elsewhere, scored goals and shown he is good enough for the Championship, is young, fit and hungry. Cousins has gone elsewhere, not pulled up any trees, not really progressed and has missed a lot of games through injury. I'd take Piggott back but not Cousins.

But PIggot is a former player so can't be re-signed on your "never go back" principal.

Or are you now saying we should sign players who improve the team, regardless of whether they played for us before?

I'm not saying never sign players who have played for you before but in my opinion it's never as good second time around. In my opinion there is a difference too between Piggott and Cousins, I'd have the former back but not the latter. Just my opinion, which is what I thought this forum was for.

I don’t recall Piggott doing that much for us in his first spell yet you’d have him back even though, by your logic, he’d not be as good second time around? Maybe me but that makes no sense if we want to get out of League One.

Piggott played a couple of times in his first 'spell' before being released. It would hardly be second time around for him.

wmcf123 said:

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

BR7_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well

Do what?

So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?

Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.

But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion.  Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions. 

You don’t strike me as a big words kind of guy

TheAddicks4Ever said:

yeah 100 pages of no real rumours 💯 #SameOldCharlton