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This annoys me surely if there’s young talent at Bromley it should be us spotting it not bloody Pompey ....Grrrrrr!Cafc43v3r said:
Hope he does better at Pompey than your mateHenry Irving said:
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Why has he only averaged 20 games per season for the last 5 years? Is there something to it or just he wasn’t fancied by managers?Cafc43v3r said:
If we are only offering trials to people that are 27 and played 20 championship games last season and missed no games due to injury (according to transfer market), who would we sign without a trial?Swisdom said:Cafc43v3r said:
Why the hell would Cousins come for a trial?Swisdom said:Just my tuppence worth - I'm not a massive fan of Pigott. I think he did well at Wimbledon as he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond. Not sure he will cut it at a bigger club to be honest. Time will tell I guess.
As for Cousins - I'd definitely get him in for a trial. His engine was excellent and whilst he was limited on the ball he is probably better than Pratley technically and more mobile than both he and Watson. He always said he'd like to return and I would like us to at least make contact. He should be fresh having not played a vast amount in the last few seasons and he should be in his prime at 27. He is also able to operate in a few positions.
As Curbs always used to say he wanted players that were "Hungry and angry" and I wonder if Jordan fits into that mould...
I doubt we will sign him but he has been released by Stoke, not Wycombe or Sheffield Wednesday. Plenty of championship clubs will have a sniff. If we can offer him something better, not necessarily financially, he might be tempted.
We would offer a trial to gauge his fitness. I’d be surprised if there were loads of offers in the current climate so we don’t need to jump without doing due diligenceCafc43v3r said:
Why the hell would Cousins come for a trial?Swisdom said:Just my tuppence worth - I'm not a massive fan of Pigott. I think he did well at Wimbledon as he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond. Not sure he will cut it at a bigger club to be honest. Time will tell I guess.
As for Cousins - I'd definitely get him in for a trial. His engine was excellent and whilst he was limited on the ball he is probably better than Pratley technically and more mobile than both he and Watson. He always said he'd like to return and I would like us to at least make contact. He should be fresh having not played a vast amount in the last few seasons and he should be in his prime at 27. He is also able to operate in a few positions.
As Curbs always used to say he wanted players that were "Hungry and angry" and I wonder if Jordan fits into that mould...
I doubt we will sign him but he has been released by Stoke, not Wycombe or Sheffield Wednesday. Plenty of championship clubs will have a sniff. If we can offer him something better, not necessarily financially, he might be tempted.This is an unexpected opportunity so I would be surprised if he has been scouted recently. The club know they will get crucified if they sign a crocked player so need to be sensible1 -
Did a great job for us in our promotion yearRedChaser said:To be fair on Danny Hollands he did have a bad foot injury which hastened his departure.1 -
Good grief I have to save that somewhere, I have to use that before I pop my clogs.SoundAsa£ said:
Well it’s certainly better than filling ones posts with a stream of pointless and unnecessary floccinaucinihilipilification.wmcf123 said:
You don’t strike me as a big words kind of guyBR7_addick said:
But I think cousins is shit, I could explain why and use a few big words if I wanted but I didn’t on this occasion. Perhaps try not getting so offended by a difference of opinion on something so irrelevant, it’s not like I’ve said this to cousins directly, that I don’t like, but this is the perfect place to express your opinions.Garrymanilow said:
Not sure where you're getting that from as that's not what I said. Sure people can be negative about footballers, the way some talk about them is ridiculous though. Saying that people who make a good living out of football are 'shit' footballers is just needlessly unpleasant and makes that person look a bit thick. Of course that player isn't shit, if he was no-one would pay him thousands of pounds a week. Just makes me wonder if those people are also going round screaming at the people who work at Sainsbury's if they're too slow at the till or leave abusive reviews on Twitter for films they didn't enjoy watching. It's weird that some fans don't seem to have any ability to talk about footballers in a balanced way. It makes Twitter a cesspit.BR7_addick said:
Do what?Garrymanilow said:I hate the way football fans talk about footballers sometimes. Imagine being some bloke who would be given the run around by the under 14s sitting at their laptop and confidently saying a professional footballer playing in the first or second division is 'dogshit' or 'dreadful' with 'no footballing brain'. What a weird life. I wonder if they heckle window cleaners and dentists as well
So unless we are better than a footballer we can never describe one negatively?
edit. Actually if I tried to say it I probably would pop my clogs.
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Very much doubt it. He has said many times how he thought he was hard done by there when he was a youngster & would never play for them. But like Piggott & us.dwb said:A Millwall supporting friend had just told me that Lyle Taylor may be joining them on loan!0 -
FWIW.........
I don't think we'll hear about any signings this week. I think I read that Gallen & Chris Parkes are away (not together I don't think) and as its half term I imagine players with kids are off on holiday too.
Expect to hear something by the end of next week though.1 -
If its an unexpected opportunity to our head of recruitment he needs sacking. If our recruitment team base any transfer on "being crucified" we won't sign anyone, ever.Swisdom said:
Why has he only averaged 20 games per season for the last 5 years? Is there something to it or just he wasn’t fancied by managers?Cafc43v3r said:
If we are only offering trials to people that are 27 and played 20 championship games last season and missed no games due to injury (according to transfer market), who would we sign without a trial?Swisdom said:Cafc43v3r said:
Why the hell would Cousins come for a trial?Swisdom said:Just my tuppence worth - I'm not a massive fan of Pigott. I think he did well at Wimbledon as he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond. Not sure he will cut it at a bigger club to be honest. Time will tell I guess.
As for Cousins - I'd definitely get him in for a trial. His engine was excellent and whilst he was limited on the ball he is probably better than Pratley technically and more mobile than both he and Watson. He always said he'd like to return and I would like us to at least make contact. He should be fresh having not played a vast amount in the last few seasons and he should be in his prime at 27. He is also able to operate in a few positions.
As Curbs always used to say he wanted players that were "Hungry and angry" and I wonder if Jordan fits into that mould...
I doubt we will sign him but he has been released by Stoke, not Wycombe or Sheffield Wednesday. Plenty of championship clubs will have a sniff. If we can offer him something better, not necessarily financially, he might be tempted.
We would offer a trial to gauge his fitness. I’d be surprised if there were loads of offers in the current climate so we don’t need to jump without doing due diligenceCafc43v3r said:
Why the hell would Cousins come for a trial?Swisdom said:Just my tuppence worth - I'm not a massive fan of Pigott. I think he did well at Wimbledon as he was a bigger fish in a smaller pond. Not sure he will cut it at a bigger club to be honest. Time will tell I guess.
As for Cousins - I'd definitely get him in for a trial. His engine was excellent and whilst he was limited on the ball he is probably better than Pratley technically and more mobile than both he and Watson. He always said he'd like to return and I would like us to at least make contact. He should be fresh having not played a vast amount in the last few seasons and he should be in his prime at 27. He is also able to operate in a few positions.
As Curbs always used to say he wanted players that were "Hungry and angry" and I wonder if Jordan fits into that mould...
I doubt we will sign him but he has been released by Stoke, not Wycombe or Sheffield Wednesday. Plenty of championship clubs will have a sniff. If we can offer him something better, not necessarily financially, he might be tempted.This is an unexpected opportunity so I would be surprised if he has been scouted recently. The club know they will get crucified if they sign a crocked player so need to be sensible
We won't sign Cousins, I am pretty confident of that, for many reasons, him being good enough, or fit enough aren't any of them.
My money is on him going to Forest or Derby.0 -
90 new posts in an afternoon, has to be news of a possible signing ?
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Maybe we didn’t rate him??Maccn05 said:
This annoys me surely if there’s young talent at Bromley it should be us spotting it not bloody Pompey ....Grrrrrr!Cafc43v3r said:
Hope he does better at Pompey than your mateHenry Irving said:9 -
Was in same class as my son at primary school.Henry Irving said:
Outstanding footballer and also amongst the best of his age group nationally at tennis.
I wonder if we had a look at him.
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Tennis you say Henners, I assume he can serve at a decent rate of knots so can take a mean windmill throw in Ian Hutchinson (old school Chelsea for the youngsters) style. Ideal for Division three football, good luck to the lad.mid_life_crisis said:
Was in same class as my son at primary school.Henry Irving said:
Outstanding footballer and also amongst the best of his age group nationally at tennis.
I wonder if we had a look at him.0 -
No rumours and no fish puns.
The worst rumours thread for several decades. I'm even missing Mowgli, Polish Pete and that bloke's dad on Twitter.
I will be watching Professor Positive's early morning wildlife videos from now on.
Despite them being very irritating.3 -
Renewed our interest in Foo Kin No Wan1
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They were back end of last week .... expect two signings very soongolfaddick said:FWIW.........
I don't think we'll hear about any signings this week. I think I read that Gallen & Chris Parkes are away (not together I don't think) and as its half term I imagine players with kids are off on holiday too.
Expect to hear something by the end of next week though.4 -
Okay sweepstakes - date of first signing announcement. Exemption from @Dazzler21's list to be determined. 8 June for me. Prize pool = F.A.
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charltonbob said:90 new posts in an afternoon, has to be news of a possible signing ?
Its the thread from hell. Have to look but time we will never get back.
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paulfox said:
Maybe we didn’t rate him??Maccn05 said:
This annoys me surely if there’s young talent at Bromley it should be us spotting it not bloody Pompey ....Grrrrrr!Cafc43v3r said:
Hope he does better at Pompey than your mateHenry Irving said:
Maybe we don't need him.
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The club have re-signed players in the past & had no issues. To name a small amount:thenewbie said:I'd much rather have a brand new squad with no baggage and no past links and start completely afresh than have former players coming back.
Derek Hales
Mike Flanagan
John Humphrey
Paul Mortimer
They all did well upon their returns, & 3 of them, even played for the Croydon numpties in between spells.
If a player improves us, it doesn't matter whether he's played for us before or not.
Different of course if we sign previous crocked players, such as Jonny williams, but this whole "fresh start" policy/idea doesn't really make any sense.6 -
His agent will be saying 'Lyle they're offering £25,000 a week'.Swisdom said:
A man of colour, an outspoken one at that, going to Millwall has carcrash all over it. I would like to think his agent will do and say the right thing!dwb said:A Millwall supporting friend had just told me that Lyle Taylor may be joining them on loan!0 -
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Yep, that just about sums up Taylor in one quote..his big move at lastiaitch said:
His agent will be saying 'Lyle they're offering £25,000 a week'.Swisdom said:
A man of colour, an outspoken one at that, going to Millwall has carcrash all over it. I would like to think his agent will do and say the right thing!dwb said:A Millwall supporting friend had just told me that Lyle Taylor may be joining them on loan!
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If it's a loan, what the scum are offering wouldn't matter to Lyle, he'll still collect his full wages, the scum's input will only affect how much Forest will still be paying.iaitch said:
His agent will be saying 'Lyle they're offering £25,000 a week'.Swisdom said:
A man of colour, an outspoken one at that, going to Millwall has carcrash all over it. I would like to think his agent will do and say the right thing!dwb said:A Millwall supporting friend had just told me that Lyle Taylor may be joining them on loan!
That doesn't alter my feelings on Taylor's mercenary attitude.1 -
No forgetting Sir Christopher PowellStefco said:
The club have re-signed players in the past & had no issues. To name a small amount:thenewbie said:I'd much rather have a brand new squad with no baggage and no past links and start completely afresh than have former players coming back.
Derek Hales
Mike Flanagan
John Humphrey
Paul Mortimer
They all did well upon their returns, & 3 of them, even played for the Croydon numpties in between spells.
If a player improves us, it doesn't matter whether he's played for us before or not.
Different of course if we sign previous crocked players, such as Jonny williams, but this whole "fresh start" policy/idea doesn't really make any sense.0 -
No it doesn't. I fully admit it's purely my own feeling and not remotely logical. But in the absence of actual rumours at least it's something to talk about!Stefco said:
The club have re-signed players in the past & had no issues. To name a small amount:thenewbie said:I'd much rather have a brand new squad with no baggage and no past links and start completely afresh than have former players coming back.
Derek Hales
Mike Flanagan
John Humphrey
Paul Mortimer
They all did well upon their returns, & 3 of them, even played for the Croydon numpties in between spells.
If a player improves us, it doesn't matter whether he's played for us before or not.
Different of course if we sign previous crocked players, such as Jonny williams, but this whole "fresh start" policy/idea doesn't really make any sense.1 -
Be careful - thrrr are people who only pop on here for information and if u start discussions that make that more time consuming, they might tell u off1
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Was disappointed when Taylor left because I thought he was a good footballer. Do I blame him for leaving to collect more money or would I blame him for doing it again if circumstances allowed ? Why the f*** should I. He’s a professional sportsman with a finite career. I say good luck to him. He’s not a Charlton supporter or even I think much of a football fan. I think a lot of the Taylor haters would be doing exactly the same if they were in his boots. I hope he doesn’t end up at The New Den only because I still think he’s a good footballer. I’ve never got why fans allow their rose tinted specs to colour their opinion of players who are just doing exactly what pretty much all of us would do given the chance.5
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I don't think there's anything in Millwall looking at Taylor.
He scored 5 goals for Forest last season, if Millwall have any play off push ambition they'll need to aim higher.
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i agree to a point - if he had honoured his contract, no problem, but he didn'tShootersHillGuru said:Was disappointed when Taylor left because I thought he was a good footballer. Do I blame him for leaving to collect more money or would I blame him for doing it again if circumstances allowed ? Why the f*** should I. He’s a professional sportsman with a finite career. I say good luck to him. He’s not a Charlton supporter or even I think much of a football fan. I think a lot of the Taylor haters would be doing exactly the same if they were in his boots. I hope he doesn’t end up at The New Den only because I still think he’s a good footballer. I’ve never got why fans allow their rose tinted specs to colour their opinion of players who are just doing exactly what pretty much all of us would do given the chance.27 -
Perhaps Forest required him not to do so ? Why is Everyone’s flavour of the moment Joe Piggott unable to confirm his destination ? I’m sure clubs ask or require of players certain contractual obligations all the time. I doubt Taylor did it to piss off Charlton supporters.DOUCHER said:
i agree to a point - if he had honoured his contract, no problem, but he didn'tShootersHillGuru said:Was disappointed when Taylor left because I thought he was a good footballer. Do I blame him for leaving to collect more money or would I blame him for doing it again if circumstances allowed ? Why the f*** should I. He’s a professional sportsman with a finite career. I say good luck to him. He’s not a Charlton supporter or even I think much of a football fan. I think a lot of the Taylor haters would be doing exactly the same if they were in his boots. I hope he doesn’t end up at The New Den only because I still think he’s a good footballer. I’ve never got why fans allow their rose tinted specs to colour their opinion of players who are just doing exactly what pretty much all of us would do given the chance.0 -
The issue has never been that he left us to earn more though, it's that he didn't honour his contract and refused to play.ShootersHillGuru said:Was disappointed when Taylor left because I thought he was a good footballer. Do I blame him for leaving to collect more money or would I blame him for doing it again if circumstances allowed ? Why the f*** should I. He’s a professional sportsman with a finite career. I say good luck to him. He’s not a Charlton supporter or even I think much of a football fan. I think a lot of the Taylor haters would be doing exactly the same if they were in his boots. I hope he doesn’t end up at The New Den only because I still think he’s a good footballer. I’ve never got why fans allow their rose tinted specs to colour their opinion of players who are just doing exactly what pretty much all of us would do given the chance.
Players come and go, we see it all the time, and there will always be some who get stuck for leaving - Grant, Parker etc. But Taylor's refusal to play, when under contract, at such a pivotal time in our season as well. It's unforgivable.13
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