Harry Kane .. Says he Wants a Move This Summer

I don't see him going abroad, i think he wants to stay here and breaks Shearer's goalscoring record.

Also if Kane goes i wonder if Son will want a move too. He only has 2 years left and why would he sign a new deal? Can see Spurs having to sell him next summer or lose him on a free in 2023. 

JohnBoyUK said:

cabbles said:

JohnBoyUK said:

Was always going to happen this end of season.

Good luck to him, he deserves a move to a team than will win things on a regular basis.

99.9% of Spurs fans will say he goes with their blessing.

Interesting timing ahead of the last home game of the season tomorrow night in front of 10,000 Spurs fans.  Levy is going to get pelters.  The whole debacle is on him and him alone.

I think Levy needs to go mate.  For so long he’s chased this global brand for Spurs, without the success on the pitch.  I get that football is becoming more like that, but I think he’s got it wrong.  The Amazon doc was so cringe.  You get the feeling Levy thought it was a good thing.  Tom Hardy narrating.  Everything that was wrong with football is encapsulated in it.

it’s not just Spurs, but it was almost as if Levy felt they were a global super power in football, with no trophies to back it up.  I get they are one of the richest clubs, but for the true fans like you, do you care?  No, you’d have wanted some silver wear most probably.

what they did under Poch was great and they just couldn’t make it, but there’s something structurally wrong on the football side under Levy 

Cant disagree.

I'll put my thoughts down later, trying to get Little Bubbs to sleep...

Sigh.  We've all known this has been coming, it was a surprise he stayed this season tbh.  Still feel bloody sick though.  You know, I feel like I'm grieving.  Sounds ridiculous I know.  He's up there with the best I've seen, alongside Hoddle and Gazza for the sheer impact he's had on the club.  He has singled-handedly at times dragged us through games, not many that have played for us can say that.

There's a fundamental to remember here.  ENIC/Tavistock Group are an investment company.  Their responsibility is their shareholders and their main interest is profit.  Profit (has and will always come) before Glory (in their eyes).

Not even the most ardent anti-Levy man can question what he's done for the Spurs brand over the last 20 years but as you rightly say and we all agree that its on the pitch where it matters and it just doesnt stack up.  Success on the pitch will be secondary.

For years, we had to trust the process.  The stadium would be the game changer and it would allow us to compete financially with the big clubs in Europe.  No one could have foreseen the pandemic and eventually it will help but ENICs model was always for the club to be self-sufficient.  Buy in promising youngsters on the cheap, sell them at profit.  Carrick was first, followed by Berbatov, Modric and Bale.

Yet managers have cried out to be backed.  Redknapp wanted Carlos Tevez and Gary Cahill, yet Levy gave him Louis Saha and Ryan f'ing Nelson.  How many bloody years have Spurs have only one recognised centre forward on the books?  Tottenham's net transfer spend per season over ENICs reign works out at around £15m a season.  Thats it.  Just over £300m net in 20 years.

Pochettino called for the club to be brave in the aftermath of the CL final.  He knew we needed a rebuild.  Levy has a choice - back Poch or sack him and bring in another manager.  He sacked him because hiring Mourinho (and then sacking him) was bloody cheaper than rebuilding the squad.  

So here we are.  A club without a plan and without a manager... yet the club have got time to announce the rearranged GnR concerts and NFL games...oh and even buy a new golf course to build the NFL training base on (did you hear about that?) yet they couldnt go the one extra yard and get Mourinho the experienced CB he needed, and landed him with Joe Rodon.  (No offence to Rodon as he's done fairly well in the limited game time he's had but you see the point.)  But how many times have the board not gone the one extra step?  Poch didnt sign a player for 3 transfer windows.  Thats absolutely bloody crazy.

It's little wonder Kane wants out as ENIC and Levy arent showing the same level of ambition.

H goes with my blessing.  He has been loyal throughout.  It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the board has leaked this to the press in order for Spurs to cash in on H now to maximise what they can get for him.  3 years left, Levy will want minimum £150m before he even considers it, pandemic or not.  Reading some of the press has been laughable in terms of what clubs would be willing to throw our way in part-exchange but thats par for the course.  

Spurs are at a major crossroads.  No manager.  What manager would want to take over after losing their best player?  No one trusts the board.  The Supporters Trust are finally meeting with the club tonight for the first time after the ESL fiasco.  A rebuild is required, everyone knows that.  It should have happened before Poch was sacked.  How much of the Kane money will be spent on the team?

The atmosphere inside WHL tomorrow night is going to be toxic if the weekend's protests were anything to go by.  If Levy even talks to Chelsea about Kane, he'll be watching over his shoulder for a very long time, so I can think you can rule that out already.  Likely destination Manchester but red or blue?

Anyway, as you were chaps.

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

@JohnBoyUK what happened regarding tickets for the game? Surely fans didn't buy those 60 quid tickets?

Wont know until tomorrow night for sure.
One of my good mates is going as he didnt get a ticket for the NLD back in December and in his words 'wants to say farewell to Kane, Sonny and Bale'...and that was before the news broke yesterday.

Hal1x said:

surprised he signed such a long contract.

Spurs were doing well at the time, finished 3rd, had a decent season in the CL as well. Next season they reached the CL final and things looked good for Spurs. Been completely downhill since then as they didn't strengthen the side and kick on.

But having said that signing a 6 year deal is too long. Even a year is a long time in football so he'd have been much better doing a 4 year deal which Spurs would've looked to renew after 2 years anyway, by which time he'd have then probably already been considering his options.

Here's a great stat...

Tottenham have spent £142m on strikers since they last succeeded in getting a top tier striker (Berbatov) 

Garrymanilow said:

I think he'll likely end up staying because there's too long left on his deal and Levy will gamble on Kane being unwilling to fuss in the media, and too competitive to not turn up to training and try and score goals. If he does decide to go though, I reckon Levy would sell him to Chelsea for purely political reasons. If you have to sell him and cling onto your job at the same time, sell him to a hated rival, brief the media on Harry being a disloyal whiner and fan the flames of the Chelsea/Tottenham divide to try and turn Kane into a hate figure. Make him the lightning rod rather than yourself, that sounds like classic Levy.

I think that the the ship has sailed with regards to Levy getting any kind of backing ever again from the vast majority of the fan base.

Garrymanilow said:

I think he'll likely end up staying because there's too long left on his deal and Levy will gamble on Kane being unwilling to fuss in the media, and too competitive to not turn up to training and try and score goals. If he does decide to go though, I reckon Levy would sell him to Chelsea for purely political reasons. If you have to sell him and cling onto your job at the same time, sell him to a hated rival, brief the media on Harry being a disloyal whiner and fan the flames of the Chelsea/Tottenham divide to try and turn Kane into a hate figure. Make him the lightning rod rather than yourself, that sounds like classic Levy.

There is zero chance Spurs fans would side with Levy over Kane.

Lincsaddick said:

Garrymanilow said:

I think he'll likely end up staying because there's too long left on his deal and Levy will gamble on Kane being unwilling to fuss in the media, and too competitive to not turn up to training and try and score goals. If he does decide to go though, I reckon Levy would sell him to Chelsea for purely political reasons. If you have to sell him and cling onto your job at the same time, sell him to a hated rival, brief the media on Harry being a disloyal whiner and fan the flames of the Chelsea/Tottenham divide to try and turn Kane into a hate figure. Make him the lightning rod rather than yourself, that sounds like classic Levy.

This is very likely .. a long contract means that Spurs are well in control of Kane's future and unless they get shedloads of cash, they will keep him

Unless, of course, Kane had an exit clause inserted in his contract or even something as simple as a "gentlemans" agreement with Levy. As we know a long term contract is designed to protect the value of a player as much as it is to give that person security but if Kane really wants to move he will do so. If he doesn't go now he will be 29 before he can play in the Champions League again and Spurs will have lost the opportunity to sell him when they can get most for him.

If Spurs do want to hold out against Kane's wishes then I agree he will still want to turn up for training and score goals. The difference though might be a sub conscious one or one where he might say that he's not prepared to play when he isn't fully fit as he has clearly had to do in the past simply because Spurs haven't had a viable replacement. 

The other scenario is that Levy promises to sign three or four badly needed quality signings to make them a contender for trophies. And does so. Though I can't see those purse strings being opened for a rookie Manager such as Ryan Mason. 

JohnBoyUK said:

Here's a great stat...

Tottenham have spent £142m on strikers since they last succeeded in getting a top tier striker (Berbatov) 

2006 Mido - 4.5m (14 PL goals in 48 games) 

2007 Bent - 16.5m (18 PL goals in 60 games) 

2008 Pavlyuchenko - 14m (20 PL goals in 78 games) 

2009 Defoe (2nd time around) - 16m (48 PL goals in 137 games) 

2009 Keane(2nd time around) - 15m (11 PL goals in 41 games) 

2009 Crouch - 9.5m (12 PL goals in 73 games) 

2012 Adebayor - 12m (35 PL goals in 92 games) 

2013 Soldado - 26m (7 PL goals in 52 games) 

2016 Janssen - 17m (2 PL goals in 31 games) 

2017 Llorente - 12m (2 PL goals in 36 games)

169 PL goals between them.
Kane has 165 PL goals himself.

I really liked Mido!  At least when he was on loan - mate of mine was a Spurs fan so watched quite a lot of them with him and so much of your play went through Mido.

Admittedly Berbatov was a slight upgrade....

You'd take Defoe, Kane, Crouch now too surely (obviously as they were, not at 40 odd!)?

North Lower Neil said:

JohnBoyUK said:

Here's a great stat...

Tottenham have spent £142m on strikers since they last succeeded in getting a top tier striker (Berbatov) 

2006 Mido - 4.5m (14 PL goals in 48 games) 

2007 Bent - 16.5m (18 PL goals in 60 games) 

2008 Pavlyuchenko - 14m (20 PL goals in 78 games) 

2009 Defoe (2nd time around) - 16m (48 PL goals in 137 games) 

2009 Keane(2nd time around) - 15m (11 PL goals in 41 games) 

2009 Crouch - 9.5m (12 PL goals in 73 games) 

2012 Adebayor - 12m (35 PL goals in 92 games) 

2013 Soldado - 26m (7 PL goals in 52 games) 

2016 Janssen - 17m (2 PL goals in 31 games) 

2017 Llorente - 12m (2 PL goals in 36 games)

169 PL goals between them.
Kane has 165 PL goals himself.

I really liked Mido!  At least when he was on loan - mate of mine was a Spurs fan so watched quite a lot of them with him and so much of your play went through Mido.

Mido had some talent.  He was a proper unit too.  When he could get about the pitch, he put in a shift too.

The issue was when he hit the kebabs lol.  And didnt he half hit them!