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Fans in football grounds 21/22 Season

ElfsborgAddick
ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,420
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I assume the Government will be dictating how many supporters will be allowed into grounds next season.

I think it will be organised initially at around 10% of capacities.  I'll be amazed if capacity crowds will be allowed in football grounds come May '22.


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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited May 2021
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    I assume the Government will be dictating how many supporters will be allowed into grounds next season.

    I think it will be organised initially at around 10% of capacities.  I'll be amazed if capacity crowds will be allowed in football grounds come May '22.


    You’ll be ok - 10% of Biggleswades capacity is 1 person. And you only count as half a person. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,836
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    I assume the Government will be dictating how many supporters will be allowed into grounds next season.

    I think it will be organised initially at around 10% of capacities.  I'll be amazed if capacity crowds will be allowed in football grounds come May '22.


    My main concern is you making an appearance.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,244
    I think we will have full capacity next season, unless a Covid variant causes us problems.
    2 deaths with Covid today.
    1,752 GB road deaths in 2019, so an average of 4 a day (as a yardstick).
  • Shag
    Shag Posts: 4,576
    No reason why it won’t all be back to normal at football grounds next season 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited May 2021
    I am not sure what's more shocking the fact your hypothesis has no basis on reality or the fact you are even intrested.

    Does this mean you might actually watch a Charlton game some time before May 2022?
  • john3
    john3 Posts: 335
    If they can authorise 5000 youngsters to have a rave at a venue in Liverpool where they're packed in like sardines,jumping about,dancing,sweating ,drinking and singing can't see why they can't open up the stadiums to full capacity.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,278
    Agree with most posters.....can't see why it wont be as close to normal by August. They might limit it to 50% of capacity so that there is a seat between everyone  but that's only if there is a 3rd wave which I cant see. Masks might have to be worn but even by the time schools go back that could be gone as well. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,244
    john3 said:
    If they can authorise 5000 youngsters to have a rave at a venue in Liverpool where they're packed in like sardines,jumping about,dancing,sweating ,drinking and singing can't see why they can't open up the stadiums to full capacity.
    I presume you realise that is an experiment/trial to see the Covid spread/non spread?
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,114
    More of a question around away fans than home fans I think.

    I’m expecting that everyone who wants to go to our first home game will be able to go.

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  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,420
    edited May 2021
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,013
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
     At least 22,500 for Euros group games at Wembley, rising to at least 45,000 for the later stages. There's currently no reason not to expect a return to normal for start of next season.
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,313
    MrLargo said: i
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
     At least 22,500 for Euros group games at Wembley, rising to at least 45,000 for the later stages. There's currently no reason not to expect a return to normal for start of next season.
    The only difference is that it is one match per day in the UK during the Euros. Back in normal times don’t we usually have 600k in attendance across football stadiums across England on a Saturday. 

    Expecting away supporters to be banned next season IMO. 

  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,984
    edited May 2021
    No restrictions means just that, if I can go to a festival with 20000 people in July and get off my face.. surely I can go watch football in August. How long that lasts for, is another question all together. By November I'd expect that to be slashed again when cases pick up again.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,593
    shine166 said:
    No restrictions means just that, if I can go to a festival with 20000 people in July and get off my face.. surely I can go watch football in August. How long that lasts for, is another question all together. By November I'd expect that to be slashed again when cases pick up again.
    Cases should be irrelevant as long as the vaccine works and hospitalisation and deaths do not spiral. We are not going to achieve zero covid. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,270
    Given that on average i'd expect us to have no more than 15k at games next season (unless it's boxing day or a big promotion game) i see no reason why fans won't be allowed back as normal.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
    Currently just over 50% of the population have had a vaccination.  About 25% have had both jabs.  By August that will be nearly 100% of the adult population having 1 and about 75% of them having the second.

    That's a massive difference.  As the road map stands, and there is no evidence to suggest its going to change, all social distancing laws and guidelines will be abolished by the end of June. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,194
    I’d be surprised if at least season ticket holders aren’t allowed into the ground for the first home match it next season 
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,952
    if supposedly all restrictions are still planning on ending on the 21st June (and if that does actually happen), then stadiums will be full come August....whether that remains in place when the winter months hit is another thing.

    Also what if clubs sell x amount of season tickets and then mid season (winter), restrictions on numbers come back in.....who misses out
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,407
    Even without Covid I suspect the public may not accept 20,000 "ordinary" deaths from flu over XMAS next year.

    Lockdowns and restrictions may be a winter hazard for a few years to come - we'll just have to get used to it.

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  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    stevexreeve said:
    Even without Covid I suspect the public may not accept 20,000 "ordinary" deaths from flu over XMAS next year.

    Lockdowns and restrictions may be a winter hazard for a few years to come - we'll just have to get used to it.
    Of course the public will accept it, we have accepted there are contagious illnesses all throughout our lives and throughout history. No sense to lockdown for the flu
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,639
    stevexreeve said:
    Even without Covid I suspect the public may not accept 20,000 "ordinary" deaths from flu over XMAS next year.

    Lockdowns and restrictions may be a winter hazard for a few years to come - we'll just have to get used to it.
    I think we have to get used to it and live with it - but we cannot have anymore lockdowns etc, the economy can’t take it - provided vaccines continue to provide good protection against severe disease and hospitalisation, then I will take my chances

    I believe that the COVID vaccines actually provide better protection than flu vaccines, so we may find that flu continues to be the deadlier winter bug....
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Lordflashheart said:
    stevexreeve said:
    Even without Covid I suspect the public may not accept 20,000 "ordinary" deaths from flu over XMAS next year.

    Lockdowns and restrictions may be a winter hazard for a few years to come - we'll just have to get used to it.
    I think we have to get used to it and live with it - but we cannot have anymore lockdowns etc, the economy can’t take it - provided vaccines continue to provide good protection against severe disease and hospitalisation, then I will take my chances

    I believe that the COVID vaccines actually provide better protection than flu vaccines, so we may find that flu continues to be the deadlier winter bug....
    With the advancement in vacation technology, that Covid has driven, I do wonder if we will see a much improved flu vacation and wider implementation in future years.

    I do agree that the annual deaths from flu, not to mention the hospital admissions, we come under more public scrutiny. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,292
    With the vaccination rate at or near 500,000 per day and the free availability of lateral flow testing, I can't see any reason why stadiums shouldn't be full by August, unless there is a new variant that isn't impeded by the current vaccines. My only concern is that the DIY tests aren't that accurate and that they are dependent people's honesty. Sadly, there will be a small proportion of blockheads who would rather falsely report a negative result than miss a match, but that's life. 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,984
    edited May 2021
    roseandcrown said:
    shine166 said:
    No restrictions means just that, if I can go to a festival with 20000 people in July and get off my face.. surely I can go watch football in August. How long that lasts for, is another question all together. By November I'd expect that to be slashed again when cases pick up again.
    Cases should be irrelevant as long as the vaccine works and hospitalisation and deaths do not spiral. We are not going to achieve zero covid. 
    Yeah thats what I meant, just posted in a rush. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,404
    Home fans will be in  the stadiums, as per normal in August. I can see no reason why there would be any restrictions then, considering that cases dwindled last summer despite there being no vaccination programme.

    The 2 big unknowns are

    1) Will away fans be admitted
    2) What would happen if a new variant started causing problems in autumn/winter

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,404
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
    Football isn't the only mass spectator event, all summer there will be other events where fans will be allowed in. If 25-30000 can watch cricket at Lord's or The Oval with no subsequent issues, then there's zero reason for football capacities to be restricted in August.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,244
    Elthamaddick said:
    if supposedly all restrictions are still planning on ending on the 21st June (and if that does actually happen), then stadiums will be full come August....whether that remains in place when the winter months hit is another thing.

    Also what if clubs sell x amount of season tickets and then mid season (winter), restrictions on numbers come back in.....who misses out
    Who misses out will be exactly the same as the season just ended, a ballot will decide.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,420
    killerandflash said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Arsenal are to be allowed 10,000 fans for their last home game of the season, in a capacity of 60,000
    I still think the entry of fans will be a gradual process.
    Football isn't the only mass spectator event, all summer there will be other events where fans will be allowed in. If 25-30000 can watch cricket at Lord's or The Oval with no subsequent issues, then there's zero reason for football capacities to be restricted in August.
    Especially with the rumour that hugging will be allowed from next Monday. 

    Can't wait to celebrate a 93rd minute winner by hugging random strangers!
  • Swindon_Addick
    Swindon_Addick Posts: 1,774
    stevexreeve said:
    Even without Covid I suspect the public may not accept 20,000 "ordinary" deaths from flu over XMAS next year.

    Lockdowns and restrictions may be a winter hazard for a few years to come - we'll just have to get used to it.
    Not lockdowns, but I reckon we'll see much higher take-up of the flu jab, like last winter when it was tough to get one because suddenly everyone wanted one. Next winter they should have more supplies and they should be able to cater for more demand. If more people get the jab, future flu seasons will kill fewer people just through that.

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