European Super League - clubs withdrawing p42 onwards.
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Good to see the reaction to this. Gravely sad the owners thought they could push this through. It won’t go away2
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They will get no punishment clearly. Bet none of them will.2 -
https://www.mancity.com/news/mens/club-statement-super-league-withdraw-63754546Manchester City Football Club can confirm that it has formally enacted the procedures to withdraw from the group developing plans for a European Super League.0
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Don’t worry, I knew what you meant - I’m a Raiders fan and have seen them in Oakland - Oklahoma it ain’t :-)Gary Poole said:
Sorry Oakland, but that does kind of prove my point. It’s like a team from South West London moving to Milton Keynesse9addick said:
I love the idea of the Raiders playing in Oklahoma, not sure the locals would know what to make of it!Gary Poole said:
I guess this might show the Americans that with real competitive sport comes real passion. Was there much of an outcry when the raiders moved from LA to Oklahoma to Las Vegas?se9addick said:
Doubt it, haven’t they all resigned from the ECA where the share of the pie is debated?Leroy Ambrose said:Basically, now that the Spanish government has finally stopped bankrolling Real Madrid, and Barca (who sold their soul years ago) have been financially living beyond their means for decades, they're utterly fucked financially and know it. Covid has just hastened the reality of their imperilment.
They've convinced the greedy, conniving yank fucks who own Utd and Liverpool that they can finally do away with the whole 'missing out on the champions league payday' nonsense by getting them (and a few other delusional (Arsenal, Tottingham) or basket case (Juve, Milan) clubs) to go along with it in an extremely misguided attempt at brinkmanship.
Be interesting to see how this pans out now, with all their leverage pretty much gone. Still think that, sadly, they'll end up with a bigger slice of the pie 😢I’m actually surprised at how spectacularly it’s failed and equally surprised at how quickly it all fell apart. The Americans must be very confused about what’s taken place.Will be an interesting event in the history of the sport to look back on.I think some of the franchise relocations in the US have gone down particularly badly (when the team that is not the Ravens moved from Cleveland to Baltimore rings a bell), although I’m sure some (most?) have been grudgingly accepted with some complaining but no real resistance. We shouldn’t assume that all US sports fans are less passionate than any English football fans, it’s more nuanced than that.0 -
Maybe their next move will be closer to Elthamse9addick said:
Don’t worry, I knew what you meant - I’m a Raiders fan and have seen them in Oakland - Oklahoma it ain’t :-)Gary Poole said:
Sorry Oakland, but that does kind of prove my point. It’s like a team from South West London moving to Milton Keynesse9addick said:
I love the idea of the Raiders playing in Oklahoma, not sure the locals would know what to make of it!Gary Poole said:
I guess this might show the Americans that with real competitive sport comes real passion. Was there much of an outcry when the raiders moved from LA to Oklahoma to Las Vegas?se9addick said:
Doubt it, haven’t they all resigned from the ECA where the share of the pie is debated?Leroy Ambrose said:Basically, now that the Spanish government has finally stopped bankrolling Real Madrid, and Barca (who sold their soul years ago) have been financially living beyond their means for decades, they're utterly fucked financially and know it. Covid has just hastened the reality of their imperilment.
They've convinced the greedy, conniving yank fucks who own Utd and Liverpool that they can finally do away with the whole 'missing out on the champions league payday' nonsense by getting them (and a few other delusional (Arsenal, Tottingham) or basket case (Juve, Milan) clubs) to go along with it in an extremely misguided attempt at brinkmanship.
Be interesting to see how this pans out now, with all their leverage pretty much gone. Still think that, sadly, they'll end up with a bigger slice of the pie 😢I’m actually surprised at how spectacularly it’s failed and equally surprised at how quickly it all fell apart. The Americans must be very confused about what’s taken place.Will be an interesting event in the history of the sport to look back on.I think some of the franchise relocations in the US have gone down particularly badly (when the team that is not the Ravens moved from Cleveland to Baltimore rings a bell), although I’m sure some (most?) have been grudgingly accepted with some complaining but no real resistance. We shouldn’t assume that all US sports fans are less passionate than any English football fans, it’s more nuanced than that.
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I’ve always considered Chelsea fans as a bit strange - this just confirms it.guinnessaddick said:1 -
And British, English in particular, sports fans (pretty much any sport) are the most passionate. The septics will never, ever get that.Gary Poole said:
I guess this might show the Americans that with real competitive sport comes real passion. Was there much of an outcry when the raiders moved from LA to Oklahoma to Las Vegas?se9addick said:
Doubt it, haven’t they all resigned from the ECA where the share of the pie is debated?Leroy Ambrose said:Basically, now that the Spanish government has finally stopped bankrolling Real Madrid, and Barca (who sold their soul years ago) have been financially living beyond their means for decades, they're utterly fucked financially and know it. Covid has just hastened the reality of their imperilment.
They've convinced the greedy, conniving yank fucks who own Utd and Liverpool that they can finally do away with the whole 'missing out on the champions league payday' nonsense by getting them (and a few other delusional (Arsenal, Tottingham) or basket case (Juve, Milan) clubs) to go along with it in an extremely misguided attempt at brinkmanship.
Be interesting to see how this pans out now, with all their leverage pretty much gone. Still think that, sadly, they'll end up with a bigger slice of the pie 😢I’m actually surprised at how spectacularly it’s failed and equally surprised at how quickly it all fell apart. The Americans must be very confused about what’s taken place.Will be an interesting event in the history of the sport to look back on.1 -
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Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.3 -
I hope when fans are back next season that those directors boxes get abused vehemently every minute of every game plus half time.11
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Why can't the rich footballers feel the fans are crucial to the game though. They might be rich now but the majority would have started playing/watching football as the working class. There is a massive massive difference between being a top class footballer on 200k a week and a big club forming a super league for an extra 300mil.Dave2l said:Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.8 -
You just know Arsenal and Spurs will be the last two left hanging on to the ESL.3
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cafcfan1990 said:
Why can't the rich footballers feel the fans are crucial to the game though. They might be rich now but the majority would have started playing/watching football as the working class. There is a massive massive difference between being a top class footballer on 200k a week and a big club forming a super league for an extra 300mil.Dave2l said:Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.
Yeh huge difference. The footballers earned their way to the top, starting from the bottom. They all mostly mean well.
I just sort of see a bit of a vague acting performance
I might be wrong. Hope I am.
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Well, that's fucked it 😏SELR_addicks said:0 -
David Beckham, the guy who grew up in the East end of London, has a common as muck family, who has done more work for UNICEF and a thousand other charities than almost any sporting person around, he isn't the problem in modern football really is heDave2l said:Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.9 -
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No I do agree with that, there are certainly some who are over egging their good guy image a bit. But I just dont feel generally that just because players are now millionaires it means they dont care about the fans, the football pyramid or tradition.Dave2l said:cafcfan1990 said:
Why can't the rich footballers feel the fans are crucial to the game though. They might be rich now but the majority would have started playing/watching football as the working class. There is a massive massive difference between being a top class footballer on 200k a week and a big club forming a super league for an extra 300mil.Dave2l said:Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.
Yeh huge difference. The footballers earned their way to the top, starting from the bottom. They all mostly mean well.
I just sort of see a bit of a vague acting performance
I might be wrong. Hope I am.3 -
https://twitter.com/50shadesofhaigh/status/1384583875846881281?s=24Florentino Perez naming the alternative teams he’s got lined up to replace those dropping out of the #europesuperleague12
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cafcfan1990 said:
No I do agree with that, there are certainly some who are over egging their good guy image a bit. But I just dont feel generally that just because players are now millionaires it means they dont care about the fans, the football pyramid or tradition.Dave2l said:cafcfan1990 said:
Why can't the rich footballers feel the fans are crucial to the game though. They might be rich now but the majority would have started playing/watching football as the working class. There is a massive massive difference between being a top class footballer on 200k a week and a big club forming a super league for an extra 300mil.Dave2l said:Does kind of get on my nerves how rich ex footballers, pundits, celebrities all of a sudden pretend they absolutely adore fans and members of "the working class".
Alright robin hood. Nice to say that sort of stuff but give it a bit of a break.
This super euro league shit was obviously never going to happen.
David Beckham, for example, obviously hates money. He only likes fans.
Yeh huge difference. The footballers earned their way to the top, starting from the bottom. They all mostly mean well.
I just sort of see a bit of a vague acting performance
I might be wrong. Hope I am.
The Matt Southall, katrien meire + plus more freaks time frame, has kind of given me pretend to give a sh*t about fans trust residue2 -
Remaining 4 English teams pulling out.
Well that was fun whilst it lasted.2 -
Imagine blowing all that political capital for nothing, PSG and Bayern are now the two power brokers in Europe, and the Premier League dynamics have shifted hugely9
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The last few days have shown us yet again the depth of feeling our supporters around the world have for this great club and the game we love.
We needed no reminding of this but the response from supporters in recent days has given us time for further reflection and deep thought.
It was never our intention to cause such distress, however when the invitation to join the Super League came, while knowing there were no guarantees, we did not want to be left behind to ensure we protected Arsenal and its future.
As a result of listening to you and the wider football community over recent days we are withdrawing from the proposed Super League. We made a mistake, and we apologise for it.
We know it will take time to restore your faith in what we are trying to achieve here at Arsenal but let us be clear that the decision to be part of the Super League was driven by our desire to protect Arsenal, the club you love, and to support the game you love through greater solidarity and financial stability.
Stability is essential for the game to prosper and we will continue to strive to bring the security the game needs to move forward.
The system needs to be fixed. We must work together to find solutions which protect the future of the game and harness the extraordinary power football has to get us on the edge of our seats.
Finally, we know this has been hugely unsettling at the end of what has been an incredibly difficult year for us all.
Our aim is always to make the right decisions for this great football club, to protect it for the future and to take us forward. We didn’t make the right decision here, which we fully accept.
We have heard you.
The Arsenal Board
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It was never their intention to cause such distress... So why was everything done so quietly then?18
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What a load of old bollocksSELR_addicks said:The last few days have shown us yet again the depth of feeling our supporters around the world have for this great club and the game we love.
We needed no reminding of this but the response from supporters in recent days has given us time for further reflection and deep thought.
It was never our intention to cause such distress, however when the invitation to join the Super League came, while knowing there were no guarantees, we did not want to be left behind to ensure we protected Arsenal and its future.
As a result of listening to you and the wider football community over recent days we are withdrawing from the proposed Super League. We made a mistake, and we apologise for it.
We know it will take time to restore your faith in what we are trying to achieve here at Arsenal but let us be clear that the decision to be part of the Super League was driven by our desire to protect Arsenal, the club you love, and to support the game you love through greater solidarity and financial stability.
Stability is essential for the game to prosper and we will continue to strive to bring the security the game needs to move forward.
The system needs to be fixed. We must work together to find solutions which protect the future of the game and harness the extraordinary power football has to get us on the edge of our seats.
Finally, we know this has been hugely unsettling at the end of what has been an incredibly difficult year for us all.
Our aim is always to make the right decisions for this great football club, to protect it for the future and to take us forward. We didn’t make the right decision here, which we fully accept.
We have heard you.
The Arsenal Board
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I’m enjoying the embarrassment these clubs have caused themselves whilst I also appreciate their own fan disapproval causing the downfall. I want them to now be heavily fined and made to sign an agreement to never pull this shit ever again.Thoroughly enjoying the fan power.23
