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U21 Euro's

Chris_from_Sidcup
Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
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First 2 matches just started.

Slightly odd format in that because the main Euro's were moved to this summer (when the U21 Euro's were supposed to be) they've now changed things around. The group stage is taking place this week and the quarters/semi/final will be end of May/first week of June.

England's first game is tomorrow v Switzerland. Portugal and Croatia are the other sides in our group.
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited March 2021
    England squad:

    Goalkeepers: Josef Bursik (Stoke City), Josh Griffiths (Cheltenham Town, loan from West Bromwich Albion), Aaron Ramsdale (Sheffield United)

    Defenders: Max Aarons (Norwich City), Ben Godfrey (Everton), Marc Guehi (Swansea City, loan from Chelsea), Lloyd Kelly (AFC Bournemouth), Ryan Sessegnon (Hoffenheim, loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Steven Sessegnon (Bristol City, loan from Fulham), Japhet Tanganga (Tottenham Hotspur), Ben Wilmot (Watford)

    Midfielders: Tom Davies (Everton), Ebere Eze (Crystal Palace), Conor Gallagher (West Bromwich Albion, loan from Chelsea), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Dwight McNeil (Burnley), Oliver Skipp (Norwich City, loan from Tottenham Hotspur)

    Attackers: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United), Mason Greenwood (Manchester United), Callum Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea), Noni Madueke (PSV Eindhoven), Eddie Nketiah (Arsenal), Emile Smith Rowe (Arsenal)


    Fuck knows how Brewster got in, 23 appearances for Sheff Utd this season, 0 goals. 9 U21 caps, 0 goals.

    Obviously we have players like James, Foden, Bellingham, Mount, Saka and Rice who could all play in this but are in the seniors.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    England squad:

    Goalkeepers: Josef Bursik (Stoke City), Josh Griffiths (Cheltenham Town, loan from West Bromwich Albion), Aaron Ramsdale (Sheffield United)

    Defenders: Max Aarons (Norwich City), Ben Godfrey (Everton), Marc Guehi (Swansea City, loan from Chelsea), Lloyd Kelly (AFC Bournemouth), Ryan Sessegnon (Hoffenheim, loan from Tottenham Hotspur), Steven Sessegnon (Bristol City, loan from Fulham), Japhet Tanganga (Tottenham Hotspur), Ben Wilmot (Watford)

    Midfielders: Tom Davies (Everton), Ebere Eze (Crystal Palace), Conor Gallagher (West Bromwich Albion, loan from Chelsea), Curtis Jones (Liverpool), Dwight McNeil (Burnley), Oliver Skipp (Norwich City, loan from Tottenham Hotspur)

    Attackers: Rhian Brewster (Sheffield United), Mason Greenwood (Manchester United), Callum Hudson-Odoi (Chelsea), Noni Madueke (PSV Eindhoven), Eddie Nketiah (Arsenal), Emile Smith Rowe (Arsenal)


    Fuck knows how Brewster got in, 23 appearances for Sheff Utd this season, 0 goals. 9 U21 caps, 0 goals.
    Olly did a Fergie by withdrawing Greenwood from England squad, with Todd Cantwell called up instead

    I agree Brewster shouldn't be there

    The classification of players is confusing these days, how is a Smith Rowe more of an attacker than Eze or McNeil?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    The French squad is ridiculous. Players like Konate, Kounde, Camavinga, Aouar, Edouard. 

    Leeds' keeper Meslier is in the squad and isn't even their first choice.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Italy finish with 9 men but draw 1-1 with the Czechs.

    Spain cruise to a 3-0 win against Slovenia.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Italy finish with 9 men but draw 1-1 with the Czechs.

    Spain cruise to a 3-0 win against Slovenia.
    The Italy versus Czech Republic came was really good. I’m hoping to watch a fair few of these
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Reminder than England v Switzerland is on @ 2pm today, Sky Sports
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    Surprised that Jones doesn't get a start. Especially as he's been playing pretty regularly for Liverpool and then we have Skipp starting who is playing in the Championship
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Decent save from Ramsdale after we fucked up trying to play it out from the back
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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,146
    England playing okay, need to take the chances from set pieces. No shots on target in anger from either side really. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,146
    Another England cock up nearly leads to a goal... This is familiar. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    I take it Bothroyd doesn’t get them working on crosses. Christ, McNeil has had about 4 opportunities this half to get a decent ball in and fucked it every time.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ValleyGary said:
    I take it Bothroyd doesn’t get them working on crosses. Christ, McNeil has had about 4 opportunities this half to get a decent ball in and fucked it every time.
    I'd assume that's his club's issue rather than Aidy Boothroyd's
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Surprised that Jones doesn't get a start. Especially as he's been playing pretty regularly for Liverpool and then we have Skipp starting who is playing in the Championship
    Skipp is better than Jones. Unbelievable talent.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Dazzler21 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I take it Bothroyd doesn’t get them working on crosses. Christ, McNeil has had about 4 opportunities this half to get a decent ball in and fucked it every time.
    I'd assume that's his club's issue rather than Aidy Boothroyd's
    I wouldn’t put it past Bothroyd to sap any club form out of these players. How the blokes still got this gig I’ll never know.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    ValleyGary said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    ValleyGary said:
    I take it Bothroyd doesn’t get them working on crosses. Christ, McNeil has had about 4 opportunities this half to get a decent ball in and fucked it every time.
    I'd assume that's his club's issue rather than Aidy Boothroyd's
    I wouldn’t put it past Bothroyd to sap any club form out of these players. How the blokes still got this gig I’ll never know.
    Fair point!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    1-0 Switzerland
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Since Bothroyds subs that goal was coming. Bloke is a dinosaur. Shouldn’t be anywhere near this countries footballing talent.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,959
    Thought that was rubbish.
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    "On 21 December 2013, Boothroyd was sacked by Northampton after a 4–1 defeat by Wycombe. The club were bottom of league two"

    Within months he was given the U20s manager job and from there the U21s. Bloke must have friends in high places at the FA.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    "On 21 December 2013, Boothroyd was sacked by Northampton after a 4–1 defeat by Wycombe. The club were bottom of league two"

    Within months he was given the U20s manager job and from there the U21s. Bloke must have friends in high places at the FA.
    I do remember there was alot of hype when he was at Watford, since then he has literally done nothing and had several chances within the English setup which i agree do not feel justified. 

    Completely agree with that last bit. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited March 2021
    There was quite a bit of talent out there for England and it takes a fair bit to make them look so poor. When he took McNeil off (which was correct as he couldn't cross for toffee) he also took off England's most dangerous player (Davies) who was driving at them and trying to make things happen. Aarons could neither beat his man nor cross so why keep him on?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    AB’s tournament record with England U21’s is absolutely horrific. When you then add in the fact of the talent he’s had at his disposal, it’s even worse. An over the hill club manager, in charge of our kids, yet sits comfortably knowing the FA have no bollocks to get rid of him. He started 5 at the back today against a Swiss side happy to defend on the edge of their own box. Utterly clueless. 

    As you can probably tell, I can’t fucking stand him. These players probably receiving some of the best, modern and insightful coaching at their clubs, meet up for the U21’s and in walks T-Rex Aidy with his 1998 coaching manual. 

    Arsehole. 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    It’s laughable he’s kept the job this long.

    Didn’t he bench Foden (The best player he had) last tournament in a must win game?

    Im almost convinced the FA want us to fail. I also hate Boothroyd.
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    That young kid from PSV should of started and the Eze , absolutely shithousery tactics 
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,905
    The issue is when in comes to Managers for our National Teams the selection process is operated by the dinosaurs at the FA, so his 1998 coaching manual is high tech stuff to them ! Wait until we see the team Southgate picks later in the year !
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    AndyG said:
    The issue is when in comes to Managers for our National Teams the selection process is operated by the dinosaurs at the FA, so his 1998 coaching manual is high tech stuff to them ! Wait until we see the team Southgate picks later in the year !
    The problem with the FA has always been that these knobheads select themselves. When a manager fails sufficiently, he is sacked, but they have no accountability. The simple fact is, if they did a poll on this site, or any site for that matter, we would make better appointments than they do.  
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    Well, that was a very poor performance. How does an FA set-up manage to get such a group of talented youngsters to play quite so badly? What did we create? One saved shot from a free kick.  That was it wasn't it.
    Build-up play, if you could call it that, was so slow and predictable a team of snails could have progressed up the pitch more quickly.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,890
    After our last tournament showing, I still can’t wrap my head around the fact that Boothroyd’s still in charge.

    in his post-match interview, he said he wasn’t concerned. Anybody who watched that will be concerned and we’ve got Portugal up next.

    I used to enjoy watching the U21s, not any more.

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