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  • Bolderhumphreyreid
    Bolderhumphreyreid Posts: 2,556
    Will we have to go on the Adkins diet?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,997
    Hull is the interesting one for me - Adkins clearly did well at Scunthorpe and Southampton, but was a lot more iffy at Reading and Sheff Utd.

    If he'd have been poor at Hull you'd think that he'd been bad for 8 years or so, and not the best choice.

    But he seems pretty well regarded at Hull and kept them up under difficult circumstances when the managers before and after him were failing or failed to do so.

    Decent enough shout for me, if not that exciting.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited March 2021
    I must be missing something.  Since 2013 Adkins has:
    Overseen Reading being relegated. Sacked after 18 months.
    Kept Sheff Utd in League One.  Sacked after 11 months.
    Got Hull from 20th in the Champ to 18th. Left after 18months.

    Not worked since 2019.

    I'd rather have JJ.

  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The only problem with Adkins is his awful poxy first name.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,406
    edited March 2021
    BR7_addick said:
    Chunes said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Chunes said:
    I'm all-in on Adkins. Proven track record of getting out of this horrible, stinking division, which is what matters most. And he's a tactical coach and a motivator.

    Bring him home!

    I can understand people being disappointed when they've been imagining Premier League managers, but come on... 
    14, 12 and 10 years ago.  That’s why people are disappointed, I think that’s easy to understand.
    When's your cutoff point?
    I tend to look at the last five years max, and one who’s record has improved over the years not got worse!
    So someone who has got promoted from the league one in the last five years? That's a pool of 15 managers. Certainly makes the task simple...

    edit - 14! excluding Lee Bowyer.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
     B) 
  • jams
    jams Posts: 1,219
    Addick_8 said:
    Adkins Manager & JJ assistant I think is going to happen. 
    On paper, you could say it would be one of the better appointments in the last 8 years?
    Hardly difficult given the managers we've had! 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    So people don't want Adkins because his success is too long ago but would be happy with Curbs?

    Adkins started his management career after Curbs left us! 
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    Adkins wouldn't have been my first choice but he's done well historically at this level, so I'm willing to give him a chance. TS hasn't done much wrong since taking over so I trust him to make the right choice.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,747
    edited March 2021
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    I must be missing something.  Since 2013 Adkins has:
    Overseen Reading being relegated. Sacked after 18 months.
    Kept Sheff Utd in League One.  Sacked after 11 months.
    Got Hull from 20th in the Champ to 18th. Left after 18months.

    Not worked since 2019.

    I'd rather have JJ.

    13th, not 18th with Hull as improved them the following season

    Might have continued doing better and put them on an upward curve had the Hull owners been crap like they have been for a few years which ultimately relegated them a year later... I know its not the greatest position to end in but I think most would be foolish on here to turn down a 13th placed finish in the Championship

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  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,731
    Bucks the trend of goalkeepers being managers. Passes the hieght test. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,217
    Chunes said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Chunes said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Chunes said:
    I'm all-in on Adkins. Proven track record of getting out of this horrible, stinking division, which is what matters most. And he's a tactical coach and a motivator.

    Bring him home!

    I can understand people being disappointed when they've been imagining Premier League managers, but come on... 
    14, 12 and 10 years ago.  That’s why people are disappointed, I think that’s easy to understand.
    When's your cutoff point?
    I tend to look at the last five years max, and one who’s record has improved over the years not got worse!
    So someone who has got promoted from the league one in the last five years? That's a pool of 15 managers. Certainly makes the task simple...

    edit - 14! excluding Lee Bowyer.
    I never said promoted, I said a good record.

    And just because it’s not a simple tasks doesn’t mean I have to be happy with Adkins.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,822
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    I must be missing something.  Since 2013 Adkins has:
    Overseen Reading being relegated. Sacked after 18 months.
    Kept Sheff Utd in League One.  Sacked after 11 months.
    Got Hull from 20th in the Champ to 18th. Left after 18months.

    Not worked since 2019.

    I'd rather have JJ.

    13th, not 18th with Hull as improved them the following season

    Might have continued doing better and put them on an upward curve had the Hull owners been crap like they have been for a few years which ultimately relegated them a year later
    and Reading where as good as down by the time he got the job there
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    Cafc43v3r said:
    So people don't want Adkins because his success is too long ago but would be happy with Curbs?

    Adkins started his management career after Curbs left us! 
    I don't think many people here want Curbs as manager though, as opposed to a consultant, director of football etc
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,217
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    I must be missing something.  Since 2013 Adkins has:
    Overseen Reading being relegated. Sacked after 18 months.
    Kept Sheff Utd in League One.  Sacked after 11 months.
    Got Hull from 20th in the Champ to 18th. Left after 18months.

    Not worked since 2019.

    I'd rather have JJ.

    This is where I’m at.  I’d put much more emphasis on his recent record than his older one.
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,913
    Difficult to pass judgement on Adkins until we know his favourite pizza toppings and how many tattoos he's got.

  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,264
    I wouldn’t have a problem with Jackson to be honest, but I do think we can sometimes be overly sentimental about one of our own.  It’s one of our biggest strengths when you look at the fact Curbs does Valley Pass, ex players do match day corporate and Steve Brown is now regularly commentating, but I don’t think it’s a bad thing to take an objective view outside the Charlton bubble 
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:
    If it as Adkins, that strikes me as a lazy, unambitious decision. His successes are all in the distant past now. The guy is obviously desperate for s job - any job, which implies that he's probably cheap too. We had more than enough of that approach under RD.

    I remain hopeful that this rumour is false.
    This with bells on
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    Addick_8 said:
    Adkins Manager & JJ assistant I think is going to happen. 
    On paper, you could say it would be one of the better appointments in the last 8 years?
    Not hard though is it 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,145
    MattF said:

    I don’t even believe that’s Adkins, that’s just Bowyer wearing spectacles, I see exactly what they’re trying to do here....

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,658
    Initially underwhelmed but on reflection I think it might work out. Certainly knows how to escape league one which has to be our priority. Seems a thoughtful type of coach and I’m hoping JJ stays on and would learn. On reflection I’m quite ok with him.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,782
    edited March 2021
    If we appoint Adkins it feels like a rushed decision and the one thing we have is time .

    Unless TS seriously thinks we can still go up this season .
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,898
    BR7_addick said:
    bobmunro said:
    BR7_addick said:
    Chunes said:
    Just a note that Adkins has been promoted from this league three times. 
    Another note, the latest one of those was a decade ago.

    Times change and not all managers move with it, see Wenger/Mourinho.
    So if Wenger could be persuaded by Thomas to take the job you would not agree?

    Football hasn't changed that much in 10 years.
    Yes cos wenger and Adkins are the same people..
    I didn't make the comparison.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,997
    Bedsaddick said:
    If we appoint Adkins it feels like a rushed decision and the one thing we have is time .

    Unless TS seriously thinks we can still go up this season .
    Gives him 11 games to look at the squad though, start to work out what we need, who he might want, who he might not etc.

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,997
    Cafc43v3r said:
    So people don't want Adkins because his success is too long ago but would be happy with Curbs?

    Adkins started his management career after Curbs left us! 
    Exactly, he's not young but 56 isn't old in management terms, and he last managed (at a higher level than us and with decent results) the season before last.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,649
    Danny Addick said:
    Give it to Curbs over Adkins any day. 

    This is what I’m always worried about when people think the grass is greener. Bowyer had had a blip recently and things weren’t improving much but if we end up with Adkins, wtf, it will be a terrible trade for me. And everyone saying “get JJ in, he knows the club” wtf to you too - Bowyer knew the club and when he struggled everyone said it was too sentimental. 
    you do know Bowyer walked out right?
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    Christ, Adkins is a shocker. He’s had one good spell in his career. Anything concrete to say it’s him or just whispers/the bookies. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,499
    Adkins? Progressive? 100 year plan?

    I propose we interview nobody who has already had the Covid jab!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,649
    cafc_harry said:
    Christ, Adkins is a shocker. He’s had one good spell in his career. Anything concrete to say it’s him or just whispers/the bookies. 
    rumours here, people jump on at the bookies, his odds shorten etc etc so nothing concrete no.
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