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Ched Evans sacked by Fleetwood

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,623
    Garrymanilow said:
    ValleyGary said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    se9addick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    So...reckon we should offer him a contract?
    SoundAsa£ said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Man will always condemn in others that which he most fears in himself.😀
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Evans or Barton?
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Snowflake
    finding humour in such conduct is despicable - were it your sister, daughter, mum you'd be so callous and flippant of course.
    Excuse me, but I am not convinced Evans was guilty.

    Wasn’t he eventually proven not guilty after providing the court with new evidence? In fact I think he was paid quite a substantial sum in damages by his initial lawyers.

    BTW that’s no me defending him or suggesting we sign him!
    It was a very, very strange situation. After Evans' girlfriend's dad bankrolled his appeal, they got former partners of the alleged victim to appear and comment on her sexual history, after offering £50,000 for people to come forward. They essentially put a bounty on her. Evans' girlfriend also sent them begging messages.Two men came forward and the judge allowed her history to be scrutinised despite the fact defence lawyers have been banned from cross-examining alleged rape victims in court about their sexual history since 1999. The men gave similar stories to the Evans case, and apparently no-one thought that this was at all unusual and allowed it. Her identity was also deliberately given out on social media despite the fact that's illegal. She's had so many death threats she's had to change her identity at least 5 times. Basically, a rich bloke used all of his money and influence to create a situation where the woman's account was brought into question after all the facts had already been publicly shared, and the only new evidence that was offered was that this woman had had sex while drunk before. No word on if those blokes also exited via the fire escape mind. Despite this not actually disproving anything to do with the case at hand, the obvious financial inducement related to the new witnesses and the fact the judge's decision to allow this set back rape trials decades, his guilt wasn't proven. They basically muddied the water using cash and he was never anything close to proven innocent. Regardless of all that, I think everyone would agree he's a total piece of shit, and the fact he may or may not have got away with one or not doesn't change that
    But, given all that.......would you sign him. ?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Garrymanilow said:
    ValleyGary said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    se9addick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    So...reckon we should offer him a contract?
    SoundAsa£ said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Man will always condemn in others that which he most fears in himself.😀
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Evans or Barton?
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Snowflake
    finding humour in such conduct is despicable - were it your sister, daughter, mum you'd be so callous and flippant of course.
    Excuse me, but I am not convinced Evans was guilty.

    Wasn’t he eventually proven not guilty after providing the court with new evidence? In fact I think he was paid quite a substantial sum in damages by his initial lawyers.

    BTW that’s no me defending him or suggesting we sign him!
    It was a very, very strange situation. After Evans' girlfriend's dad bankrolled his appeal, they got former partners of the alleged victim to appear and comment on her sexual history, after offering £50,000 for people to come forward. They essentially put a bounty on her. Evans' girlfriend also sent them begging messages.Two men came forward and the judge allowed her history to be scrutinised despite the fact defence lawyers have been banned from cross-examining alleged rape victims in court about their sexual history since 1999. The men gave similar stories to the Evans case, and apparently no-one thought that this was at all unusual and allowed it. Her identity was also deliberately given out on social media despite the fact that's illegal. She's had so many death threats she's had to change her identity at least 5 times. Basically, a rich bloke used all of his money and influence to create a situation where the woman's account was brought into question after all the facts had already been publicly shared, and the only new evidence that was offered was that this woman had had sex while drunk before. No word on if those blokes also exited via the fire escape mind. Despite this not actually disproving anything to do with the case at hand, the obvious financial inducement related to the new witnesses and the fact the judge's decision to allow this set back rape trials decades, his guilt wasn't proven. They basically muddied the water using cash and he was never anything close to proven innocent. Regardless of all that, I think everyone would agree he's a total piece of shit, and the fact he may or may not have got away with one or not doesn't change that
    This reads like a bad dream, or a horror movie, but it is in fact 100% accurate. The notion we sign this fucking creep is loathsome and sickening, end of. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002

    When asked why she believes Ched, Natasha, the director of her father's jewellry business said:

    "He couldn’t. I mean the only people who think Ched is a rapist are people who haven’t met him. He’s a big softie. Everyone who knows Ched can see why I’ve stood by him.

    I know he can be an idiot, and he behaved appallingly, no doubt about that, but rape? No. He hasn’t got it in him."


  • Silverdreammachine
    Silverdreammachine Posts: 370
    'Big Softie', who had previous while at Man City, shooting landlady in the face with air gun!
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Have any of our Welsh Internationals ever made any statements about Evans? You'd imagine Gunter and Matthews being similar ages know him pretty well.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    SantaClaus said:
    Have any of our Welsh Internationals ever made any statements about Evans? You'd imagine Gunter and Matthews being similar ages know him pretty well.
    I would be very surprised if any of them went in record. Most agents would surely advise to keep heads down and mouths shut, it's not worthwhile getting dragged into the situation.

    Which is not to say they do not have opinions at all but I don't see it being sensible on their part to comment on legal matters about another player.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,975
    Garrymanilow said:
    ValleyGary said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    se9addick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    So...reckon we should offer him a contract?
    SoundAsa£ said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Man will always condemn in others that which he most fears in himself.😀
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Evans or Barton?
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Snowflake
    finding humour in such conduct is despicable - were it your sister, daughter, mum you'd be so callous and flippant of course.
    Excuse me, but I am not convinced Evans was guilty.

    Wasn’t he eventually proven not guilty after providing the court with new evidence? In fact I think he was paid quite a substantial sum in damages by his initial lawyers.

    BTW that’s no me defending him or suggesting we sign him!
    It was a very, very strange situation. After Evans' girlfriend's dad bankrolled his appeal, they got former partners of the alleged victim to appear and comment on her sexual history, after offering £50,000 for people to come forward. They essentially put a bounty on her. Evans' girlfriend also sent them begging messages.Two men came forward and the judge allowed her history to be scrutinised despite the fact defence lawyers have been banned from cross-examining alleged rape victims in court about their sexual history since 1999. The men gave similar stories to the Evans case, and apparently no-one thought that this was at all unusual and allowed it. Her identity was also deliberately given out on social media despite the fact that's illegal. She's had so many death threats she's had to change her identity at least 5 times. Basically, a rich bloke used all of his money and influence to create a situation where the woman's account was brought into question after all the facts had already been publicly shared, and the only new evidence that was offered was that this woman had had sex while drunk before. No word on if those blokes also exited via the fire escape mind. Despite this not actually disproving anything to do with the case at hand, the obvious financial inducement related to the new witnesses and the fact the judge's decision to allow this set back rape trials decades, his guilt wasn't proven. They basically muddied the water using cash and he was never anything close to proven innocent. Regardless of all that, I think everyone would agree he's a total piece of shit, and the fact he may or may not have got away with one or not doesn't change that
    Cheers, I wasn’t aware of any of that, and I’d imagine the majority of the public aren’t either. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    addick1956 said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    ValleyGary said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    se9addick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    So...reckon we should offer him a contract?
    SoundAsa£ said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Man will always condemn in others that which he most fears in himself.😀
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Evans or Barton?
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    StigThundercock said:
    Appalling scum bag loses a job he was beyond fortunate to get.
    Not something that should be keeping anybody awake, apart from perhaps the appalling scum bag himself.
    Gives him more time to dwell on his absence of value.
    He might even find a grain of humanity in that fetid carcass and take himself for a very long walk off Morecambe Bay at low tide with a strong offshore breeze.
    At least there could be some positive outcome from his worthless existence when the cold blooded denizens of the deep get a feed.
    Snowflake
    finding humour in such conduct is despicable - were it your sister, daughter, mum you'd be so callous and flippant of course.
    Excuse me, but I am not convinced Evans was guilty.

    Wasn’t he eventually proven not guilty after providing the court with new evidence? In fact I think he was paid quite a substantial sum in damages by his initial lawyers.

    BTW that’s no me defending him or suggesting we sign him!
    It was a very, very strange situation. After Evans' girlfriend's dad bankrolled his appeal, they got former partners of the alleged victim to appear and comment on her sexual history, after offering £50,000 for people to come forward. They essentially put a bounty on her. Evans' girlfriend also sent them begging messages.Two men came forward and the judge allowed her history to be scrutinised despite the fact defence lawyers have been banned from cross-examining alleged rape victims in court about their sexual history since 1999. The men gave similar stories to the Evans case, and apparently no-one thought that this was at all unusual and allowed it. Her identity was also deliberately given out on social media despite the fact that's illegal. She's had so many death threats she's had to change her identity at least 5 times. Basically, a rich bloke used all of his money and influence to create a situation where the woman's account was brought into question after all the facts had already been publicly shared, and the only new evidence that was offered was that this woman had had sex while drunk before. No word on if those blokes also exited via the fire escape mind. Despite this not actually disproving anything to do with the case at hand, the obvious financial inducement related to the new witnesses and the fact the judge's decision to allow this set back rape trials decades, his guilt wasn't proven. They basically muddied the water using cash and he was never anything close to proven innocent. Regardless of all that, I think everyone would agree he's a total piece of shit, and the fact he may or may not have got away with one or not doesn't change that
    And yet he was aquitted which technically makes him 'innocent '.

    His girlfriend's old man paid a lot out when  most fathers would  have run a mile .
    Technically it makes him not guilty. Trials don't prove innocence, they prove guilt. A lawyer who is good at their job can create enough confusion and doubt for someone to get away with an act, and that's exactly what happened. No-one has ever disputed what happened in that room, it just came down to a technicality on whether or not she was too drunk to consent, and via pleading and offers of huge sums of money that doubt was introduced a long time later. Basically second time round he got a better lawyer. He's not innocent of anything.
    I can't even begin to get into the mindset of a man who puts tens of thousands of his own money into destroying the reputation of a 19 year old woman, all to defend a man who cheated on his daughter. The bloke is a mystery
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,002
    It really is bizarre. I'm quite sure that if you cheated on your girlfriend then her Dad would probably want to do you some harm, not spend thousands of pounds trying to help you out.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Has anymore been said officially about his "sacking"?

    Fleetwood chairman or OS made a statement?

    Great summary by @Garrymanilow BTW
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    Sorry (not sorry) but Evans is not the kind of person I could cheer on if he was wearing our precious shirt. Absolute stain of a man.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Going to Preston until the end of the season apparently
  • MattF
    MattF Posts: 3,797
    Barton gone now

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Has Ched Evans actually gone?  Thought he'd been released but the Preston links say a loan?

    Might stay now.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    Sounds like something bad must have happened there. Fleetwood are actually doing pretty well. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Chunes said:
    Sounds like something bad must have happened there. Fleetwood are actually doing pretty well. 
    They employed Joey Barton and Ched Evans?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    North Lower Neil said:
    Chunes said:
    Sounds like something bad must have happened there. Fleetwood are actually doing pretty well. 
    They employed Joey Barton and Ched Evans?
    It was never going to end in roses was it?!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    North Lower Neil said:
    Has Ched Evans actually gone?  Thought he'd been released but the Preston links say a loan?

    Might stay now.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55545761

    Confirmed loan deal
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Silverdreammachine said:
    'Big Softie', who had previous while at Man City, shooting landlady in the face with air gun!


    The story I read was shooting the Landlady's son in the leg. 

    After reading Garry Manilow's story just like Joey Barton who is a nasty piece of work, Ched Evans deserves no sympathy, but the young woman does even if no crime was committed. A man may sleep around and he's Jack the lad and yet a woman is called a slut by some. 

    A terrible story from start to finish for so many reasons.
     
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,880
    soapboxsam said:
    Silverdreammachine said:
    'Big Softie', who had previous while at Man City, shooting landlady in the face with air gun!


    The story I read was shooting the Landlady's son in the leg. 

    After reading Garry Manilow's story just like Joey Barton who is a nasty piece of work, Ched Evans deserves no sympathy, but the young woman does even if no crime was committed. A man may sleep around and he's Jack the lad and yet a woman is called a slut by some. 

    A terrible story from start to finish for so many reasons.
     
    Generally your comments re Jack the lad and sluts are correct but in this case, I’ve never read anything degrading about the girl.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    killerandflash said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Has Ched Evans actually gone?  Thought he'd been released but the Preston links say a loan?

    Might stay now.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55545761

    Confirmed loan deal
    Bet Preston fans are delighted. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Todds_right_hook said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Silverdreammachine said:
    'Big Softie', who had previous while at Man City, shooting landlady in the face with air gun!


    The story I read was shooting the Landlady's son in the leg. 

    After reading Garry Manilow's story just like Joey Barton who is a nasty piece of work, Ched Evans deserves no sympathy, but the young woman does even if no crime was committed. A man may sleep around and he's Jack the lad and yet a woman is called a slut by some. 

    A terrible story from start to finish for so many reasons.
     
    Generally your comments re Jack the lad and sluts are correct but in this case, I’ve never read anything degrading about the girl.
    There was a lot out there.

    Some were even convicted of releasing her name whilst trashing her on social media.

    His own 'defence' website (whilst not naming her) sailed at the least very close to the wind on victim blaming.

    There were no charges as a result of this but it gives you an idea on the website:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/16/ched-evans-website-investigation-identification-rape-victim
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    North Lower Neil said:
    killerandflash said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Has Ched Evans actually gone?  Thought he'd been released but the Preston links say a loan?

    Might stay now.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55545761

    Confirmed loan deal
    Bet Preston fans are delighted. 
    If it means we are in with a shout of getting Jayden Stockley I'm quite happy

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