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Burnley - was a Farnell & El Kashashy story, now a leveraged US takeover.
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Thats like a bunch of sheep saying they should hire a Lion to protect them from wolves eating them!!MattF said:God help them, seem to remember we felt similar about Southall
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Since this news broke I have come to realise just how oblivious football fans are to what goes on at other clubs.
Not surprising people like Farnell can go from club to club.45 -
Burnley fans need to think about what happened to Portsmouth as well as Bury, Macclesfield, Wigan, us. Farnell/El Kashashy takeover will see them in L1 within 3 years as they rinse the club for every penny. Dyche will be gone and Dave Jones will be in charge. They ought to be able to attract a decent owner given the stability of the club and ability of Dyche. I wouldn't wish the Dodgy Duo on Millwall or Palace.6
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Great I've just gotten used to not reading the bonkers shenanigans thread here and now I'm reading Burnley's own version.36
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Sunderlands version is decent as well if you've finished with BurnleysTalal said:Great I've just gotten used to not reading the bonkers shenanigans thread here and now I'm reading Burnley's own version.15 -
Admit it - you missed it didn't youTalal said:Great I've just gotten used to not reading the bonkers shenanigans thread here and now I'm reading Burnley's own version.7 -
You still need someone to loan you the money for a leveraged takeover. Who in their right minds would do that when Burnley's assets are modest, their revenue streams are so shaky and there liabilities so large? It just doesn't make any sense.gilbertfilbert said:
I imagine the deal will be highly leveraged, à la Man. Utd.Rob7Lee said:Interesting one this, as allegedly to purchase the club is £200m, so not really sure what their game/plan is here.2 -
Sky indicating it's just a wait now for the Premier League to rubber stamp the deal
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If you hadn't read CL, the SLP and very specific Charlton related social media, how much would you know?KentishAddick said:Since this news broke I have come to realise just how oblivious football fans are to what goes on at other clubs.
Not surprising people like Farnell can go from club to club.
I am sure a lot of our fans don't know the half of it21 -
What’s the name of the journo who “wrote” the Times Farnell PR piece? They need to go on the blacklist. I recognise all that shit. He’s got a way with journos though. And it helps him that he is a gobby sport lawyer. Football Journos who dont know about him are extra wary of crossing him too quickly.
Good work by the Burnley guy quoted by @Addickted though, re Kashashy. Can you recall or look up his handle please ?0 -
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Players and managers tooKentishAddick said:Since this news broke I have come to realise just how oblivious football fans are to what goes on at other clubs.
Not surprising people like Farnell can go from club to club.
Tim Flowers taking the Macclesfield job 2 or 3 weeks before the club folded. I also remember Michael Appleton taking the Blackpool job when the club was a complete basket case under the Oystons, and him being oblivious to this0 -
WalkdenClaretPragueAddick said:What’s the name of the journo who “wrote” the Times Farnell PR piece? They need to go on the blacklist. I recognise all that shit. He’s got a way with journos though. And it helps him that he is a gobby sport lawyer. Football Journos who dont know about him are extra wary of crossing him too quickly.
Good work by the Burnley guy quoted by @Addickted though, re Kashashy. Can you recall or look up his handle please ?
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I kind of feel sorry for sinkov and feel that I need to phone a Burnley supporters hotline and donate £5 to give him a better lifeMattF said:God help them, seem to remember we felt similar about Southall
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Jonathan Northcroft is the Times journo.PragueAddick said:What’s the name of the journo who “wrote” the Times Farnell PR piece? They need to go on the blacklist. I recognise all that shit. He’s got a way with journos though. And it helps him that he is a gobby sport lawyer. Football Journos who dont know about him are extra wary of crossing him too quickly.
Good work by the Burnley guy quoted by @Addickted though, re Kashashy. Can you recall or look up his handle please ?
Add John Cross of the Mirror to the list who for a London based journo has no knowledge of what we have been through and more worrying seems to know little about PL Burnley. Arsenal and the rest of the top 6 is all they know or care about.
Decent bits on Twitter from Jack Pitt Brooke highlighting his previous writing on us5 -
He's been a busy lad this morning, including being in touch with the British Embassy in Cairo!PragueAddick said:What’s the name of the journo who “wrote” the Times Farnell PR piece? They need to go on the blacklist. I recognise all that shit. He’s got a way with journos though. And it helps him that he is a gobby sport lawyer. Football Journos who dont know about him are extra wary of crossing him too quickly.
Good work by the Burnley guy quoted by @Addickted though, re Kashashy. Can you recall or look up his handle please ?Post by clansman » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:09 pm
At the risk of repetition Mr El Kashashy appears to be let’s say economical with the truth about his background and business interests. His linked-in page says he is managing partner of Beta-Infra based in USE and Uk. No such company exists either in UK Egypt or UAE
I found a website page for a law firm in Egypt called Kashash , without the y on end.the photo of the Chairman was the spitting image of El Kashashy! UK embassy in Egypt couldn’t find any trace of such a firm.
It is all a big con and wasting the time of those involved with the ALK deal. If Mr Farnell or Mr Karshashy or their advisors wish to dispute any of this let them state clearly which firm or group of investors Mr Karshashy works for or represents.43 -
A big con, who'd a thunk it.2
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How about Millwall AND Palace? Farnell can have one, El Cash the other.rananegra said:Burnley fans need to think about what happened to Portsmouth as well as Bury, Macclesfield, Wigan, us. Farnell/El Kashashy takeover will see them in L1 within 3 years as they rinse the club for every penny. Dyche will be gone and Dave Jones will be in charge. They ought to be able to attract a decent owner given the stability of the club and ability of Dyche. I wouldn't wish the Dodgy Duo on Millwall or Palace.3 -
I have just emailed Daniel Black sports writer for the Burnley Express giving him a rough outline of CL and it’s ongoing battle with the charlatan Farnell.
I suggested he sign up to CL to get a flavour of what we have gone through these last few months.....I hope he does.
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KentishAddick said:Since this news broke I have come to realise just how oblivious football fans are to what goes on at other clubs.
Not surprising people like Farnell can go from club to club.
With fanzines and social media the information is out there but just like Charlton fans over the last few years anyone seems better than the incumbent.
Duchatelet in Cafc case and Mike Garlick who appears to run Burnley like a championship club. You wouldn't believe they have had all the TV money over the last few years for being in the premier.
Not knocking him for not spending money like Leeds did back in the day but Garlick doesn't seem to have the balance right.
Sean Dyche will seek pastures new.
Had a good 10 minute chat with Alistair Campbell last season as we reached London on a train after the Wigan match, no Brexit talk which was a relief to him and why we only talked about Burnley and how he has been a fan for over 50 years.
He was surprised at my knowledge of Burnley players from Ray Pointer, Ralph Coates, Dave Thomas but not so much about my info on Nick Pope and Gudmundsson.
The great thing was it was just two middle age football geeks chatting, not an ex political spin doctor and a soap box orator.
It will be interesting to hear his views if this gains any momentum.
Farnell is a wrong un.10 -
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" You can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink" applies to some Burnley fans.
We can only provide first hand experiences with these charlatans and give them a solid warning.
I think its fair to say we have a fair amount of experience with dodgy characters at our football club...
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Campbell is a really good guy.soapboxsam said:KentishAddick said:Since this news broke I have come to realise just how oblivious football fans are to what goes on at other clubs.
Not surprising people like Farnell can go from club to club.
With fanzines and social media the information is out there but just like Charlton fans over the last few years anyone seems better than the incumbent.
Duchatelet in Cafc case and Mike Garlick who appears to run Burnley like a championship club. You wouldn't believe they have had all the TV money over the last few years for being in the premier.
Not knocking him for not spending money like Leeds did back in the day but Garlick doesn't seem to have the balance right.
Sean Dyche will seek pastures new.
Had a good 10 minute chat with Alistair Campbell last season as we reached London on a train after the Wigan match, no Brexit talk which was a relief to him and why we only talked about Burnley and how he has been a fan for over 50 years.
He was surprised at my knowledge of Burnley players from Ray Pointer, Ralph Coates, Dave Thomas but not so much about my info on Nick Pope and Gudmundsson.
The great thing was it was just two middle age football geeks chatting, not an ex political spin doctor and a soap box orator.
It will be interesting to hear his views if this gains any momentum.
Farnell is a wrong un.
Extremely easy to talk to.
Nothing like his public image. His various books are worth reading as well.4 -
I'm not sure the Burnley fans can do a massive amount anyway. Ultimately the people who will decide on this are the current owners (Garlick & Co) and the Premier League. Have fan protests ever stopped a takeover?
For all our protests, the game changer was ESI, Farnell, PE etc failing specific EFL tests, and Sandgaard coming on the scene to buy us.3 -
The comments on this post are crazy
People acting like Burnley are lucky to be getting them WTF3 -
Closer to home. What does this mean regarding the Court case?
I can't see them wanting their dirty laundry discussed.0 -
It would suggest that Farnell and co have moved on...Richard J said:Closer to home. What does this mean regarding the Court case?
I can't see them wanting their dirty laundry discussed.2 -
One of the last groups to try and buy Bury before they were expelled was C&N Sporting risk, co-founded by Harry Newman and Rory Campbell - Alistair's son.
Given Farnell's involvement with Bury at that point, I can't imagine it would be too difficult for Alistair to find out a little more about Farnell's reputation and dealings in football.3 -
Unfortunately alot of Burnley fans will take this at face value and think this is an improvement on their current situation, just like most of us did back in December, and why wouldnt they ? after all the idea that people can step in, buy a club without putting any money in, flog off anything worthwhile, lie and cheat everyone along the way. This is all beyond the realms of any kind of rational thought isnt it ? unless you happen to be a Bury or CAFC fan !!!
This is how Farnell gets away with it because nobody would believe it possible2 -
I might send a suspicious activity report to the National Crime Agency.
Amount: Approximately £200m
Location: North West based sports club.
Proof of funds? Apparently (lol)
Proof of source of funds? Nope...
Other Notes: The same M.O. as a previous acquisition attempt (London based), but for higher stakes.
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Can this go on the shenanigans thread?
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