Marcus Maddison - 20 months jail for GBH (p77)

T_C_E said:

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The best edit I have ever seen Ray 😉

AFKABartram said:

AFKABartram said:

I’ve always been a Curbs rather than a Redknapp.

Individuals can win you games but can also destroy squads. Getting the right character and blend into a squad is vital and this bloke always give the impression he’s a wrong un.  

Look forward to being proved completely wrong. 

I've no doubt he's a bit of a wrong'un but I believe in Bowyer & Jackson to manage his ego. 

AFKABartram said:

AFKABartram said:

I’ve always been a Curbs rather than a Redknapp.

Individuals can win you games but can also destroy squads. Getting the right character and blend into a squad is vital and this bloke always give the impression he’s a wrong un.  

Look forward to being proved completely wrong. 

To flip it on its head - we loved Lyle Taylor, and he appeared to be a team player, but in the end he wasn’t - by a country mile

Personally, it’s very much about the management team for me - could a twat like Dowie cope with bad eggs, nope - can Bowyer,  well IMO yes he can, judging by how he comes across in interviews and his honesty, and the way he played the game

Its history now, but I would be interested to see if Bowyer could have solved Tony Watt if I had a time machine

As Lennie said ‘never look back wishing’

Not sure I believe this bad character narrative.  Peterborough were looking to sell him, and had an agreement with him to sell, for a few close seasons.  Clubs were unwilling to sign him for a big fee as his pace is average.  I think he came back not as effective at the start of 18/19 season, but then had an excellent second half of the season.  No time did he refuse to play.  Peterborough only started to push a transfer when they didn't have an extra contract option on him.

Maybe he is a bad character, but I've never seen it on the pitch.  In this division just his assists alone push him towards being a divison mvp.

LargeAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

LargeAddick said:

Don’t think Maddison refused to play at Hull. He was available for the games until his contract expired and then Hull decided to let him go and not ask him to play the remaining games.

I've done some research on this and it appears that Peterborough didn't offer to extend his contract with them for the additional dates and so he would have only been paid for the Hull portion of any extension, or they'd have had to pay his full salary for those dates. As he wasn't willing to accept their offers they let him go for those full 9 games. 

In addition to this Hull knew Peterborough didn't want him back and told him they also wouldn't be taking up the option to sign him permanently beyond the end of the season. 

So, as I said, he didn’t refuse to play.

Well he might have refused to play for the amount Hull offered to pay for the last 6 fixtures.

But I was adding to your comment rather than challenging it.

Dazzler21 said:

AFKABartram said:

AFKABartram said:

I’ve always been a Curbs rather than a Redknapp.

Individuals can win you games but can also destroy squads. Getting the right character and blend into a squad is vital and this bloke always give the impression he’s a wrong un.  

Look forward to being proved completely wrong. 

I've no doubt he's a bit of a wrong'un but I believe in Bowyer & Jackson to manage his ego. 

Time changes people, sometimes for the better.

25 years ago Bowyer had a bit of a reputation but, has changed for the better me thinks. 

He has plenty of skill and looks like there is a bit of an edge and some arrogance in the way he plays. Not qualities we seem to have in abundance within our current squad. Looking forward to seeing him play for us.

Regarding the Maddison not playing for Hull in the restart... they had already decided that they would not be offering him a contract at the end of the loan. Hull also have had a bit of trouble ownership wise and believe someone has said it before, but there have been grumblings over time about the way the squad is either treated or behaves. Obviously they’ve started well this season though.

However, it is far from the situation Taylor put upon us and himself. We wanted and needed Taylor to survive. Hull had already made up their mind they were not planning on having him involved.

I reckon he might just be mustard, we know he’s got it in him, it’s whether bowyer can get him to perform. 

Lordflashheart said:

golfaddick said:

So.......

Taylor refused to play after lockdown = called a snake & demonized.

Maddison refused to play after lockdown = dogs bollox & swooned over.

Not swooning - just willing to see how it plays out 

At the end of the day I want to see us go up - if he is someone who adds to the side and enables that, great

If he doesn’t - well so be it

Many players over the years have come in and not performed for us, despite expectations

Some have not performed - got pelters from the fans, but come good

And in that respect I offer up evidence 1 - Mark Azlewood - discuss if you wish

I do remember Aizlewood's "v" sign to the crowd at The Valley.  Yet another welshman  !!

Btw......my comment re downing tools was tongue in cheek.

palarsehater said:

Think a few are expecting us to walk this league - ain’t gonna happen be fortunate to get playoffs I think 

Not expecting us to walk the league, i mean we're 6 points off the top already after only 3 games and that gap could be more with us playing Sunderland and then not having a game the week after.

But in a season where most of the division is struggling for money and we have a new owner who is clearly shopping at the top end of the division given 2 of the 3 signings so far, and the (rumoured) imminent signings of Gunter and Schwartz, you'd certainly expect us to be challenging for promotion.

Anything less than top 6 with the team we'll have will be a disappointment.

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/there-must-be-something-wrong-lee-bowyer-determined-to-iron-out-any-negatives-in-charlton-new-boy-marcus-maddison/