England Cricket Summer 2020

Ian Bell is retiring after Warks' final Bob Willis match

killerandflash said:

Ian Bell is retiring after Warks' final Bob Willis match

Great career, not sure they will name an end at Edgbaston after him though.

30-3 after 5, both cheats back in the hutch.

There can’t be many better T20 batsmen than Buttler at the moment

killerandflash said:

There can’t be many better T20 batsmen than Buttler at the moment

I like seeing him open in T20, maximum use of a great batsman.

Think they'll be better in the 50 over version. 

As an aside, as much as I dislike Warner I did smile when he said he missed the abuse. 
🙂

I always thought the abuse was overly brave and out of order from both sets of fans in the Ashes especially towards Ponting in 2009. In Warners case though I saw it as completely acceptable 

Warner is one of those characters who makes like he enjoys it but truth is he doesn't know how to behave any other way so has to accept the grief he gets. He's just an arsehole whereas Ponting was a rock hard bastard and competitor competing at the highest level which often brings out some arseholery but you know the man has class whereas Warner you know does not

PrincessFiona said:

killerandflash said:

Bairstow out hit wicket, a real rarity

Still not totally sure why he is being picked

Totally agree.

Failed in both T20 innings and adds nothing special in the field with Buttler keeping adequately IMO.

Would hope to see changes for the 3rd match, with Billings coming in for Bairstow and A N Other for guess who..... 

Is Moheen Ali in as a batsman???? Only seems to bowl 1 over so not in as an all rounder and  not exactly contributing hugely with the bat

Ali is probably just about good enough to be in the white ball side. Brings balance, when at full strength we’ll have 6 bowlers with Ali at 7. That means we can pick our 3 best seamers alongside Rashid. If you drop Ali you’re looking to pick another all rounder because you need a decent No7. 

Ali isn’t having a great time at the moment in all forms of cricket but he has shown what he can do in the last couple of innings. He had a 60 odd last week and kept cool to get us over the line yesterday

bairstow is also a great limited overs cricketer and needs to be cut some slack. 2 or 3 low scores does not warrant him being dropped. 20/20 cricket is about teeing off from ball 1 and not building an innings. He got out stupidly if it was a test match but on the context of the game, I would rather him get out having a swing and taking his stumps out than out lbw defending.

saying bairstow should be dropped is like saying Bonne should be dropped if he doesn’t score on his next 3 matches

cafcfan1990 said:

Johnnysummers5 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Ali is probably just about good enough to be in the white ball side. Brings balance, when at full strength we’ll have 6 bowlers with Ali at 7. That means we can pick our 3 best seamers alongside Rashid. If you drop Ali you’re looking to pick another all rounder because you need a decent No7. 

I’d probably go (T20):
Roy 
Buttler 
Root 
Malan
Morgan
Stokes
Ali
Curran
Rashid 
Archer 
Wood

With Bairstow, Banton, Billings, Woakes, S Curran, Willey and Jordan, you’ve got 3 decent players who wouldn’t make the squad. 

Chris Jordan, would be in my team

It was between him and Curran, but I think Jordan falls just short. He’s had plenty of chances but just never quite been good or consistent enough at International level. 

If your going on current form, yesterday he took the wickets of Finch  and Maxwell, at an important time, Finch looked well set and on Friday he bowled a brilliant 19th over.

Johnnysummers5 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Johnnysummers5 said:

cafcfan1990 said:

Ali is probably just about good enough to be in the white ball side. Brings balance, when at full strength we’ll have 6 bowlers with Ali at 7. That means we can pick our 3 best seamers alongside Rashid. If you drop Ali you’re looking to pick another all rounder because you need a decent No7. 

I’d probably go (T20):
Roy 
Buttler 
Root 
Malan
Morgan
Stokes
Ali
Curran
Rashid 
Archer 
Wood

With Bairstow, Banton, Billings, Woakes, S Curran, Willey and Jordan, you’ve got 3 decent players who wouldn’t make the squad. 

Chris Jordan, would be in my team

It was between him and Curran, but I think Jordan falls just short. He’s had plenty of chances but just never quite been good or consistent enough at International level. 

If your going on current form, yesterday he took the wickets of Finch  and Maxwell, at an important time, Finch looked well set and on Friday he bowled a brilliant 19th over.

No I was going generally speaking. Personally I feel Jordan has showed he can be a decent bowler but lacks the consistency at International level. Would be in my squad but not my team. It's very close though.