League table talk

Oggy Red said:

Danepak said:

Webbja77 said:

Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max

Oh yes, they'll get 3 points at the toolbox on the final day of the season.

That's what worries me too. In their heads, the Millwall players will be on the beach.

And if it stiffs us over, Scum will think it's a good day's work.

Didn't you get the memo?
Turns out they don't care. 

Oggy Red said:

Danepak said:

Webbja77 said:

Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max

Oh yes, they'll get 3 points at the toolbox on the final day of the season.

That's what worries me too. In their heads, the Millwall players will be on the beach.

And if it stiffs us over, Scum will think it's a good day's work.

If we get to the stage where we're worrying about results elsewhere on the last day then we'll be relegated.

We need to get 4-5 points from the next 3 games and we'll be ok.

LawrieAbrahams said:

I think it could all get very tight with 7 or 8 teams within 3 or 4 points of each other. 

Could! It is bloody tight.

RedRyan said:

eaststandmike said:

Webbja77 said:

Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max

If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs 

This is actually a very worrying concern!

They could. But in Brentford's case, they'll still be an excellent side. 

Dangerous game though. I remember Bowyer mucking about a bit away to Rochdale and we lost against a crap side. We then had no momentum going into the play-off with Shrewsbury. 

eaststandmike said:

Webbja77 said:

Huddersfield won’t be picking up any more points and Barnsley will get 3 max

If Brentford and Forest have secured a play off spot they could field weakened teams against Barnsley saving players for the 2 legs 

You need to go into the playoffs as an in-form team. Rest your players and you might as well not bother to turn up for the playoff games, especially if the other three teams are Brentford, Fulham and whoever grabs that contested 6th place spot. Last season we were out of playoff spots at the start of the run in and ended up 3rd on the last day of the season. We were the form team and got promoted.

calydon_road said:

Millsmall Wot a bunch of cnuts. Rather bin their own season than play properly. Doesn't matter. 6 out of the next 9 points and the Reds staying up

Maybe they are saying that they need to win to keep us up, thus effectively guaranteeing  an easy 6 points next season.

Lewis Coaches said:

Big big night of football Tuesday evening a win for Luton and Hull and our backs would really be up against the wall.Seeing those sides play one another this coming Saturday.
On Wedsneday Birmingham v Charlton hard place to go at the best of times and with our lack of goals from our front men things not looking good.

Also the little matter of Wigan on Saturday..By 3pm 18thjuly we could be at best looking to beat Leeds at Elland Road to stay up.

Barnsley,Charlton,Huddersfield my bottom three.

I'm assuming you think Wigan's deduction will be overturned then?

If Hull win on Tuesday, that leaves Wigan on 42 with the deduction (as they play each other) . So you have them overtaking Huddersfield with 2 games left, who are already on 47?

Also, you have both Hull and Luton surviving, even though they're both currently in the relegation zone and both still have to play each other? 

I'm not looking at this with rose-tinted glasses, and I'm very much 50:50 on whether I think we will survive, but for me you have to have one of Hull, Luton or Wigan in the bottom 3 just based on the fact that 2/3 are already there (deduction or no deduction) and they face one another. 

Beat Brum then draw with Wigan, and that probably will be enough (50 points) as Wigan (net 42 currently) won't be able to overtake us, and while not impossible mathematically, it seems really unlikely that Hull AND Luton would reach the 51 needed to overtake us due to their worse GD.
Hull would need 2 wins
Luton would need 2 wins and a draw

And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points

But it all depends on beating Brum...

golfaddick said:

I have no fucking clue.

Golfaddick finally admits truth on CL ;-)

I fear we may slip into the bottom three on the last day of the season like we did in the last game before lockdown. A win at Birmingham is the solution.

Beat Birmingham on Wednesday (we go above them on GD) and I think they could be the ones to go.
They face playoff chasing Preston and Derby in their final 2 games.

We beat Wigan then they can't catch us. Barnsley would need to win at either Leeds or Brentford which isnt going to happen. Finally provided Hull do not beat Luton I can't see them taking 4 points from their 2 away games.

I said a while back that all this  talk of 53 points was fanciful. It is not inconceivable that our goal difference keeps us up on 48 points provided that includes a draw with Wigan. 

Charlton_Cole said:

killerandflash said:

Beat Brum then draw with Wigan, and that probably will be enough (50 points) as Wigan (net 42 currently) won't be able to overtake us, and while not impossible mathematically, it seems really unlikely that Hull AND Luton would reach the 51 needed to overtake us due to their worse GD.
Hull would need 2 wins
Luton would need 2 wins and a draw

And we may be ahead of one of the teams currently on 47 or 49 points

But it all depends on beating Brum...

And don't forget Barnsley as well. 

I think 50 will definitely be enough. 

I've mentally discarded Barnsley, it's a very long shot they'll overtake us if we beat Brum

stonemuse said:

https://twitter.com/experimental361/status/1282617740319219712?s=21

With three rounds of fixtures to go, there still isn't a single Championship club mathematically guaranteed to be in the division next season.

(although that's ignoring the impact of Wigan's as-yet-unapplied points deduction)

A rare season, unbelievable there’s this much to play for with 3 games remaining.