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Is the season going to finish? (ed. Pg.53 - 3 players not returned to training)

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,471
    edited June 2020
    Removed the refusers.

    GK
    Phillips
    Amos

    RB
    Solly 
    Matthews

    CB
    Lockyer
    Oshilaja
    Pearce 
    Sarr

    LB
    Purrington
    Page

    CDM
    Field
    Pratley
    Davis

    CM
    Cullen
    Pratley
    Forster Caskey
    Lapslie
    Smith
    Morgan 

    CAM
    Williams
    Doughty
    Aneke
    Oztumer
    McGeady

    FW
    Taylor
    Bonne
    Hemed
    Davison
    Green

    Pretty much means a first 11 of:
    Phillips 
    Matthews | Lockyer | Pearce | Purrington
    Pratley
    Cullen | Williams
    McGeady
    Hemed | Bonne

    Subs: Amos, Sarr, Oshilaja, Doughty, Aneke, Green, Davison
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,113
    9 subs remember 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,471
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,942
    edited June 2020
    The one thing that Bowyer can't allow to happen is that we use Taylor as a reason for turning relegation into a self fulfilling prophecy.

    When we drew against West Brom (one of if not the best side in the Championship) our starting X1 wasn't just missing Taylor - we had no Williams, Pearce, Page, Hemed, Bonne, JFC, Morgan, McGeady, Cullen, Field, Oztumer, Purringon and Aneke. 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,268
    Wouldn't be devastated if we lined up like this against Hull:

    Phillips 
    Matthews | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Field
    Cullen | Williams
    Oztumer
    Green | Bonne

    Subs: Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Doughty, Aneke, Hemed, Davison, McGeady, Pratley

  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,736
    Garrymanilow said:
    Wouldn't be devastated if we lined up like this against Hull:

    Phillips 
    Matthews | Lockyer | Sarr | Purrington
    Field
    Cullen | Williams
    Oztumer
    Green | Bonne

    Subs: Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Doughty, Aneke, Hemed, Davison, McGeady, Pratley

    With Doughty, Aneke, Hemed, Mcgeady and pratley as options off the bench that isnt too bad. Still a way off where we need to be i think sadly.
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,466
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,070
    Rob7Lee said:
    I can understand it to an extent, TBH with regards Solly he's not been near the bench for a while has he so he was unlikely to be in or around the squad on a match day with everyone fighting fit.


    With 2 games a week for 5 weeks, no way will Matthews play every game
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,541
    If that squad is as fit and ready as possible, BRING IT ON. One player does not make a team and in Bonne and Green we have goals. plus whatever Heker can chip in. I was more worried if Sarr and Matthews were 2 of the 3, as we will need to be as tight at the back as possible.
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,541
    Hemed, not Heker which is an autocorrect of a business associate.

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    McGeady shouldn't be anywhere near the starting XI.

    Sarr was on fire before his injury and starts alongside Lockyer for sure. Pearce too if we want to play a back 5 (which to my recollection was working better at times than the 4, at least in an attacking sense - provided that Doughty can get going. That said I like the idea of 4 at the back if it means Field, Cullen, Williams AND an attacking mid - maybe Aneke, maybe Oztumer, maybe Green, certainly not that aforementioned McGeady)

    Oztumer had some good games but Bowyer seemed to very visibly give up on him right towards the end - he even scapegoated him for one poor showing I think. I don't believe we'll see much more of him this season. Could be wrong though.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,605
     Bowyer interview starts at about 16.50 minutes https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1591002000/1591003800/
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    edited June 2020
    The unanswerable question is trying to factor in the inevitable varying levels of fitness of individual club squad. I would imagine that some are going to be significantly different from others and might skew the results from the expected pre COVID period. We’ve got it all to play for and our previous disastrous form might not be much of a consideration. I’m guessing that many squads will be virtually at late pre season levels of fitness.  
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,900
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,219
    Phillips 
    Pratley, Lockyer, Sarr
    Matthews, Cullen, Field, Doughty 
    Green, Williams
    Bonne

    Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Lapslie, Oztumer, Davidson, Hemed.

    Plenty of battle and endeavour there but won’t be enough IMO.  
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    BR7_addick said:
    Phillips 
    Pratley, Lockyer, Sarr
    Matthews, Cullen, Field, Doughty 
    Green, Williams
    Bonne

    Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Lapslie, Oztumer, Davidson, Hemed.

    Plenty of battle and endeavour there but won’t be enough IMO.  
    Just not enough goals
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,736
    Callumcafc said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
    The EFL confirmed this a few days ago.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    edited June 2020
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Callumcafc said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
    The EFL confirmed this a few days ago.
    Massive advantage for the bigger clubs. Look at what a bench of nine looks like for Fulham or West Brom compared to Barnsley, Luton or Charlton.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,525
    Leuth said:
    Leuth said:
    Hemed can make himself into a hero here. C'mon Tomer, your time now. Believe you still have it
    Or even the forgotten man...ARISE, CHUKS ANEKE
    I'd really forgotten about him. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,154
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Callumcafc said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
    The EFL confirmed this a few days ago.
    Massive advantage for the bigger clubs. Look at what a bench of nine looks like for Fulham or West Brom compared to Barnsley, Luton or Charlton.
    It'll probably help us as well though

    The ability to have two extra changes will hopefully mean less chance of injury

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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,669
    edited June 2020
    ForeverAddickted said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Callumcafc said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
    The EFL confirmed this a few days ago.
    Massive advantage for the bigger clubs. Look at what a bench of nine looks like for Fulham or West Brom compared to Barnsley, Luton or Charlton.
    It'll probably help us as well though

    The ability to have two extra changes will hopefully mean less chance of injury
    You’re right but it helps clubs with a much stronger squads more.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,768
    BR7_addick said:
    Phillips 
    Pratley, Lockyer, Sarr
    Matthews, Cullen, Field, Doughty 
    Green, Williams
    Bonne

    Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Lapslie, Oztumer, Davidson, Hemed.

    Plenty of battle and endeavour there but won’t be enough IMO.  
    Aneke?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,154
    BR7_addick said:
    Phillips 
    Pratley, Lockyer, Sarr
    Matthews, Cullen, Field, Doughty 
    Green, Williams
    Bonne

    Amos, Pearce, Oshilaja, Lapslie, Oztumer, Davidson, Hemed.

    Plenty of battle and endeavour there but won’t be enough IMO.  
    Purrington, Page, Aneke, Forster-Caskey will all have a say too
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,940
    So can we get refunds now on unused tickets ? 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,605
    Callumcafc said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Source on that? They can have nine in the Bundesliga but that was the case pre-lockdown.
    During the weekend’s discussions it was further agreed to consider changing Regulations to permit the use of five substitutes in the remaining fixtures and, also increasing the matchday squad from 18 to 20 players. Discussions will continue with Championship clubs in this respect.
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ed406eef3960/efl-agrees-to-a-provisional-restart-date-of-the-weekend-of-june-20th-for-the-championship
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,768
    shine166 said:
    So can we get refunds now on unused tickets ? 
    Yeah what's the latest with the Hull away/season tickets?
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,471
    edited June 2020
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Wow hadn't seen this... That'll make games feel completely different. You could almost play a completely attacking side one half then an all out defensive side second half. 

    Some may say an unfair advantage over the previous 37 games
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,812
    Croydon said:
    shine166 said:
    So can we get refunds now on unused tickets ? 
    Yeah what's the latest with the Hull away/season tickets?
    Think that it might be a case of "I'm afraid there is no money." 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,940
    edited June 2020
    Weird, talk about integrity of the game and rules not being changed.. yet then allow 5 subs. Surely that will cause issues if a team loses out on goal difference due to a team in a higher position hammering bottom teams. 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,113
    Dazzler21 said:
    DoctorCharlton said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    stackitsteve said:
    9 subs remember 
    Eh?
    9 subs can be named, and maximum 5 can be used for remainder of the season. 
    Wow hadn't seen this... That'll make games feel completely different. You could almost play a completely attacking side one half then an all out defensive side second half. 

    Some may say an unfair advantage over the previous 37 games
    Not sure if it’ll be the same over here but in Germany they have added rules around substitutes too.
    Such as, you can only make subs 3 times in a game. So you cannot make 5 single subs meaning 5 stoppages in play. You’d have to make a couple of double substitutions.

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