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I absolutely love learning that yet another person has died. What a cheap shot! My Dad died two years ago. He brought me to my first game at the Valley in 1963 and I have supported them since. You will be pleased to learn that I didn't open a thread for him because I knew that there wouldn't be much interest and only a couple on here would know of him.PopIcon said:
My point remains the same. Everyone who dies is special to some one. With all the COVID19 threads and the RIP threads it's become a bit morose and gloomy on here, I think the rest of the media have those angles covered.Addick Addict said:
And they are currently numbers 6, 22, 24, 43 & 50. The last named are two that are Charlton related and the first three are a former England goalkeeper, one of the greatest racing drivers there has ever been and someone who was a comic genius to many. And all three of those died in the last 24 hours.Addick Addict said:If there was more going on in the world perhaps there wouldn't be five on one page. A lot of those that have sadly passed away are part of many growing up for many of us and paying respects for some is the right thing to do.
There are still 45 other threads to look at on the page too so ignoring 10% of them shouldn't be that much of an issue should it?
Maybe you're the guy who loves a RIP thread.
That's all I have to say on this.
It's not a question of him "deserving" a thread on here - it's about opening a thread for someone who has passed away who either people knew through CAFC or because some might want to share what that person meant to them. Equally, I didn't know that much about John Prine's music but reading how highly regarded he was by many on here I decided to listen to some of his.
One thread for a former England keeper, a world class racing driver and a comedian would get as complicated as amalgamating the dozen or so threads we have going about the Corona!
There is no sport or anything else really going on in the world but there are plenty of people sadly dying. Threads will naturally slip off the page according to their interest and what else is going on. For example, each of these RIP threads from the last 24 hours will last 50 times longer than your thread about "looking for a drummer" which had one the total sum of one response.
Perhaps you should have your own section and stop clogging up the front page with threads that no one has any interest in.
See - we can all do cheap shots!
PS I am a drummer, have a kit plus half a dozen guitars and recording facilities. I wish you good luck with your solo project.
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No you are right, theres not enough.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.
From now on when I hear of someone who has died I'll just start a new thread.
Forget about football and embrace death.
I use to come on here for fun, these days I'm here for misery.0 -
I agree @addick addictAddick Addict said:
I absolutely love learning that yet another person has died. What a cheap shot! My Dad died two years ago. He brought me to my first game at the Valley in 1963 and I have supported them since. You will be pleased to learn that I didn't open a thread for him because I knew that there wouldn't be much interest and only a couple on here would know of him.PopIcon said:
My point remains the same. Everyone who dies is special to some one. With all the COVID19 threads and the RIP threads it's become a bit morose and gloomy on here, I think the rest of the media have those angles covered.Addick Addict said:
And they are currently numbers 6, 22, 24, 43 & 50. The last named are two that are Charlton related and the first three are a former England goalkeeper, one of the greatest racing drivers there has ever been and someone who was a comic genius to many. And all three of those died in the last 24 hours.Addick Addict said:If there was more going on in the world perhaps there wouldn't be five on one page. A lot of those that have sadly passed away are part of many growing up for many of us and paying respects for some is the right thing to do.
There are still 45 other threads to look at on the page too so ignoring 10% of them shouldn't be that much of an issue should it?
Maybe you're the guy who loves a RIP thread.
That's all I have to say on this.
It's not a question of him "deserving" a thread on here - it's about opening a thread for someone who has passed away who either people knew through CAFC or because some might want to share what that person meant to them. Equally, I didn't know that much about John Prine's music but reading how highly regarded he was by many on here I decided to listen to some of his.
One thread for a former England keeper, a world class racing driver and a comedian would get as complicated as amalgamating the dozen or so threads we have going about the Corona!
There is no sport or anything else really going on in the world but there are plenty of people sadly dying. Threads will naturally slip off the page according to their interest and what else is going on. For example, each of these RIP threads from the last 24 hours will last 50 times longer than your thread about "looking for a drummer" which had one the total sum of one response.
Perhaps you should have your own section and stop clogging up the front page with threads that no one has any interest in.
See - we can all do cheap shots!
PS I am a drummer, have a kit plus half a dozen guitars and recording facilities. I wish you good luck with your solo project.
I would have liked to have read a RIP thread about your dad. He was a fan like the rest of us and I'd have liked to have read about his life and offer my condolences.
I know I found messages on here about my dad when he died very supportive and moving.
Yesterday was a very unusual day with three people all very well known dying on the same day. No one is saying they are more important than anyone else who has died.
As others have said if you're not interested in the threads don't open them. Personally, I find them educational and moving.
"Ask not for who the bell tolls, it tolls for thee"7 -
Instead of moaning about things you personally don’t like, have you considered actually trying to contribute something fun to shift the balance?PopIcon said:
No you are right, theres not enough.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.
From now on when I hear of someone who has died I'll just start a new thread.
Forget about football and embrace death.
I use to come on here for fun, these days I'm here for misery.
Have a look down the list of threads you’ve started on here over the last few years. How many fun threads do you spot there?
What do you do if you thumb through a newspaper or magazine and see a headline of an article that doesn’t appeal to you? I guess you just avoid reading the article and move on. Doesn’t feel that hard, does it?12 -
Have a wank mate.PopIcon said:
No you are right, theres not enough.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.
From now on when I hear of someone who has died I'll just start a new thread.
Forget about football and embrace death.
I use to come on here for fun, these days I'm here for misery.6 -
PopIcon said:
No you are right, theres not enough.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.
From now on when I hear of someone who has died I'll just start a new thread.
Forget about football and embrace death.
I use to come on here for fun, these days I'm here for misery.We’re in a pandemic. Is it meant to be fun? I never said there wasn’t enough rip threads. It doesn’t bother me either way. I hardly open them.Can everyone just stop dying please so we all, especially @PopIcon can get back to having fun.How about you start a ‘fun’ football themed thread for everyone to enjoy?3 -
I don’t say say this as a criticism, I am sincere here - I don’t understand RIP threads. Well, I get it when it’s someone you were a big fan of, and sharing a memory and your feelings has some meaning to you. And I get it when someone close to the deceased is involved in the thread (lord knows the one for my dad was emotional for me). What I don’t understand is typing RIP on a thread about someone detached from the poster and the forum, and leaving it at that.13
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I know part of my issue with the RIP threads, is not so much whether I know the person or not but that it’s a stark reminder of the inevitability of my own death and how close I may or may not be from it!Especially as some who have died are much younger than me and that makes me feel uncomfortable, particularly as I struggle with my own wellbeing and living alone.
I think one of my fears is being found dead in my flat, months after my death, having been partially devoured by my dog.
I rarely open the threads but as the heading is there in bold lettering, I can’t avoid it either.1 -
I loved Kenny Rogers in the Goodies. It was never the same when he left. ☹️i_b_b_o_r_g said:
There'd be arguments then about Kenny Rogers never being in the Goodiessuzisausage said:
There is one. @AFKABartram started it a few days ago. But people aren’t using it.se9addick said:
So, as the OP suggests, why not have a single thread (unless Charlton related)? That way we can use all the other threads for arguing about politics.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.Or maybe people who want to add their thoughts/memories about a recently deceased person don’t think it should go in a grouped post. Each to their own.Anyway, my view for what it is worth, is that if the thread clearly says who has died in the title, you can choose to open it or not.
I opened 3 RIP threads yesterday to read about well known people that I had liked from afar. I think I put a comment on each one. Now you can argue that it is pretty pointless, in its way, but it was nice to read comments from others, and their memories of that person.
We are living through a very unusual, unsettled time and whilst this is primarily a football forum, we all know it is much more than that.Personally, I think, for now, there is enough room on here for a few RIP threads. Strangely, they are often not depressing, but quite uplifting.
And no one is forcing anyone else to read them, afterall.6 -
Then in the kindest sense Sillav, I’m not sure open discussion platforms are best for you sir2
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I don't care that my thread about looking for a drummer didn't get a response, it was a stab in the dark and as it happens something a lot better has come along.Addick Addict said:
I absolutely love learning that yet another person has died. What a cheap shot! My Dad died two years ago. He brought me to my first game at the Valley in 1963 and I have supported them since. You will be pleased to learn that I didn't open a thread for him because I knew that there wouldn't be much interest and only a couple on here would know of him.PopIcon said:
My point remains the same. Everyone who dies is special to some one. With all the COVID19 threads and the RIP threads it's become a bit morose and gloomy on here, I think the rest of the media have those angles covered.Addick Addict said:
And they are currently numbers 6, 22, 24, 43 & 50. The last named are two that are Charlton related and the first three are a former England goalkeeper, one of the greatest racing drivers there has ever been and someone who was a comic genius to many. And all three of those died in the last 24 hours.Addick Addict said:If there was more going on in the world perhaps there wouldn't be five on one page. A lot of those that have sadly passed away are part of many growing up for many of us and paying respects for some is the right thing to do.
There are still 45 other threads to look at on the page too so ignoring 10% of them shouldn't be that much of an issue should it?
Maybe you're the guy who loves a RIP thread.
That's all I have to say on this.
It's not a question of him "deserving" a thread on here - it's about opening a thread for someone who has passed away who either people knew through CAFC or because some might want to share what that person meant to them. Equally, I didn't know that much about John Prine's music but reading how highly regarded he was by many on here I decided to listen to some of his.
One thread for a former England keeper, a world class racing driver and a comedian would get as complicated as amalgamating the dozen or so threads we have going about the Corona!
There is no sport or anything else really going on in the world but there are plenty of people sadly dying. Threads will naturally slip off the page according to their interest and what else is going on. For example, each of these RIP threads from the last 24 hours will last 50 times longer than your thread about "looking for a drummer" which had one the total sum of one response.
Perhaps you should have your own section and stop clogging up the front page with threads that no one has any interest in.
See - we can all do cheap shots!
PS I am a drummer, have a kit plus half a dozen guitars and recording facilities. I wish you good luck with your solo project.
My talking about RIP threads isn't a cheap shot, I'm being factual. Loads of people are thinking it, they just dont want to say it because of the ridicule that some noddy's on here will give you for it.
I also know multiple people who have died from the coronavirus and would probably have found reading about your fathers passing more interesting.
I my made my feelings clear and wont be arguing with anyone about this.
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Think I prefer the RIP thread to the Politics of Corona thread1
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http://lifeinlegacy.com/
This website gives you all the latest celebs/sportsman/politicians etc from around the world who have passed away in the last 7 days. I read it occasionally to find out whether one of my own guitar/film heroes etc has passed, something you wont find in the main stream media. its an American site so obviously a bit biased to the states. To each their own...
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At the moment we could have half a dozen RIP threads a day.
Would a RIP thread be closed if i was doing one for a doctor or nurse whose passed away that day.
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Too add i thought the RIP thread that was started was for the RIP to go on there.
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Just read that Nitram ( my mate reverses his name like you!), and I just wanted to reply, because I was rather saddened by that.sillav nitram said:I know part of my issue with the RIP threads, is not so much whether I know the person or not but that it’s a stark reminder of the inevitability of my own death and how close I may or may not be from it!Especially as some who have died are much younger than me and that makes me feel uncomfortable, particularly as I struggle with my own wellbeing and living alone.
I think one of my fears is being found dead in my flat, months after my death, having been partially devoured by my dog.
I rarely open the threads but as the heading is there in bold lettering, I can’t avoid it either.
I can understand that the RIP threads may make you feel anxious, but I guess the way to look at it, is they bear no relation to how you are, and your circumstances.
They do remind us that time is indeed passing, but if it helps, see them as simply something that does not directly affect your life, health or well being. Then move on to thread titles that might lift your spirits. 👍🏻Avoid all Charlton v Millwall match threads... 😉2 -
I dont understand why people are against it, in normal times you see one about once a week if that, in these times obviously things have changed. Pass it by if its not your thing or want to pass on any respectful comments. After all I dont read every topic here and I suspect a lot of others do the same.8
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Of course, the mods should add a feature that allows you to filter out threads which have certain text strings in their title. The risk for the non-RIP folk is that they would miss a thread entitled 'Free beer on boat trip for Fulham' (unless, of course, the mods could make it case sensitive).3
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ThisChippycafc said:I dont understand why people are against it, in normal times you see one about once a week if that, in these times obviously things have changed. Pass it by if its not your thing or want to pass on any respectful comments. After all I dont read every topic here and I suspect a lot of others do the same.1 -
Just to add, I’m not a huge fan of them myself, and have tried on a couple of times to create a generic thread for people to use for them, with zero success. I kind of get that though, I’ve learnt that only a small percentage of people look in generic titled threads.
Where it does work for me and why I personally have no problem with it is because:
1. Over the course of a normal month, we will have 3,000 new thread started, or old threads having new comments added. Within that, you’ll probably get 5-15 RIP threads. It’s a lot less impacting than some are making out.
2. I don’t really follow other ‘news’ sources and for me, and I suspect many others, the first time they'll hear of someone famous death is when it’s posted on here.
3. Many posted I’ve never heard of. As I result I don’t really take much interest, however, occasionally I’ll then find myself intrigued in that person and their background and half an hour later find ive had an interesting spell wiki and googling their life, or a specific event, and feel educated or knowledgeable on something or someone I knew nothing of.
4. I love it in those threads where random connections kick in. When someone shared the time worked on the production team of that persons show, was someone’s second cousin, dated their daughter, picked them up in their cab, sat next to them in a pub, was involved in a charity with them, was on the same cruise. Punched them in the face at a charity dinner. Those are great reads and I love though.
If it got to the time in normal times where we felt these were getting too overloaded, we’ll review it, but I really don’t think it’s anything worth kicking off about.15 -
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Never normally a big fan of the RIP thread and some of them over the years have been quite bizarre.
But. We are losing some pretty big hitters during these awful times so ok with me.0 -
No need to post any pictures though.SuedeAdidas said:
Have a wank mate.PopIcon said:
No you are right, theres not enough.suzisausage said:
We’re in the middle of a pandemic. Lots of people are currently dying and there is no new football on the tv. Hardly surprising?se9addick said:
Because you can still see the thread title, it can turn the place from what is (normally) a football forum to an obituaries section.MuttleyCAFC said:It is pretty evident what the RIP threads are. If you see somebody that was part of your life and you want to pay respects, what is the problem? If you don't, don't open the thread surely.
From now on when I hear of someone who has died I'll just start a new thread.
Forget about football and embrace death.
I use to come on here for fun, these days I'm here for misery.1 -
Have I mentioned the time I punched Kenny Rogers in the face because he left the Goodies? And I broke a chair over Bill Oddie, because he hadn’t? 👍🏻AFKABartram said:Just to add, I’m not a huge fan of them myself, and have tried on a couple of times to create a generic thread for people to use for them, with zero success. I kind of get that though, I’ve learnt that only a small percentage of people look in generic titled threads.
Where it does work for me and why I personally have no problem with it is because:
1. Over the course of a normal month, we will have 3,000 new thread started, or old threads having new comments added. Within that, you’ll probably get 5-15 RIP threads. It’s a lot less impacting than some are making out.
2. I don’t really follow other ‘news’ sources and for me, and I suspect many others, the first time they'll hear of someone famous death is when it’s posted on here.
3. Many posted I’ve never heard of. As I result I don’t really take much interest, however, occasionally I’ll then find myself intrigued in that person and their background and half an hour later find ive had an interesting spell wiki and googling their life, or a specific event, and feel educated or knowledgeable on something or someone I knew nothing of.
4. I love it in those threads where random connections kick in. When someone shared the time worked on the production team of that persons show, was someone’s second cousin, dated their daughter, picked them up in their cab, sat next to them in a pub, was involved in a charity with them, was on the same cruise. Punched them in the face at a charity dinner. Those are great reads and I love though.
If it got to the time in normal times where we felt these were getting too overloaded, we’ll review it, but I really don’t think it’s anything worth kicking off about.I’ll nip over to Kenny’s thread in a bit and recount the whole tawdry affair 😀🙄1 -
For those who are interested Radio 4 have a weekly obituary show called Last Word
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qpmv
For those who aren't interested don't click on the link.0 -
I take your point and your sentiment @AFKABartram thanks but for me, my melancholy/fear/negativity could become crippling, if I heeded your advice, well meant as it is.AFKABartram said:Then in the kindest sense Sillav, I’m not sure open discussion platforms are best for you sir
And therefore I try to do what Jim Morrison sings-‘Break on Through to the Other side!’
It’s the only way otherwise I’d end up doing nothing.2 -
I think we should say RIP to the RIP thread claiming there are too many RIP threads and they should be RIP'd1
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Ah thanks for your thoughts @3blokes but don’t be sad, I’m ok, ‘Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway’ as Susan Jeffers said and for the most part I do.3blokes said:
Just read that Nitram ( my mate reverses his name like you!), and I just wanted to reply, because I was rather saddened by that.sillav nitram said:I know part of my issue with the RIP threads, is not so much whether I know the person or not but that it’s a stark reminder of the inevitability of my own death and how close I may or may not be from it!Especially as some who have died are much younger than me and that makes me feel uncomfortable, particularly as I struggle with my own wellbeing and living alone.
I think one of my fears is being found dead in my flat, months after my death, having been partially devoured by my dog.
I rarely open the threads but as the heading is there in bold lettering, I can’t avoid it either.
I can understand that the RIP threads may make you feel anxious, but I guess the way to look at it, is they bear no relation to how you are, and your circumstances.
They do remind us that time is indeed passing, but if it helps, see them as simply something that does not directly affect your life, health or well being. Then move on to thread titles that might lift your spirits. 👍🏻Avoid all Charlton v Millwall match threads... 😉
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Dont tell me;Algarveaddick said:I have no problem with them. I do have a problem with "reality TV" threads, so I just ignore them.
Left wing - like RIP threads
Right wing - dont like RIP threads?
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Dont tell me;Algarveaddick said:I have no problem with them. I do have a problem with "reality TV" threads, so I just ignore them.
Left wing - like RIP threads
Right wing - dont like RIP threads?
;-)Definitely not!I played all my life as a left winger and never would I venture on to the right
Same in politics as in life.1 -
Quietly waiting for former Chess Grand Master Gary Kasparov to kick the bucket so I can tell of the time I sat next to him in the Valley Cafe and him taking hour and 20 minutes to pass the salt when I asked him.AFKABartram said:Just to add, I’m not a huge fan of them myself, and have tried on a couple of times to create a generic thread for people to use for them, with zero success. I kind of get that though, I’ve learnt that only a small percentage of people look in generic titled threads.
Where it does work for me and why I personally have no problem with it is because:
1. Over the course of a normal month, we will have 3,000 new thread started, or old threads having new comments added. Within that, you’ll probably get 5-15 RIP threads. It’s a lot less impacting than some are making out.
2. I don’t really follow other ‘news’ sources and for me, and I suspect many others, the first time they'll hear of someone famous death is when it’s posted on here.
3. Many posted I’ve never heard of. As I result I don’t really take much interest, however, occasionally I’ll then find myself intrigued in that person and their background and half an hour later find ive had an interesting spell wiki and googling their life, or a specific event, and feel educated or knowledgeable on something or someone I knew nothing of.
4. I love it in those threads where random connections kick in. When someone shared the time worked on the production team of that persons show, was someone’s second cousin, dated their daughter, picked them up in their cab, sat next to them in a pub, was involved in a charity with them, was on the same cruise. Punched them in the face at a charity dinner. Those are great reads and I love though.
If it got to the time in normal times where we felt these were getting too overloaded, we’ll review it, but I really don’t think it’s anything worth kicking off about.
Also Kelly Maloney was a regular in my shop up Grove Park, but when she was Frank, so that can be another one when the time comes and assuming they both go before I do4
