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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,260
    PragueAddick said:
    sirjohnhumphrey said:
    Kick It Out saying they approached Charlton twice but heard nothing back.
    Where did you read that?  On their Twitter feed  there is not a word on the entire case.

    Both the club and Matt Southall have managed to put out effective, measured tweets



    but not this lot, for whom this case is, to ought to be, central to their remit.

    But they apparently think it's all down to us fans to kick racism out of football.
    @PragueAddick

    Firstly, he doesn't say it's ALL down to us fans at all.

    Secondly, he is quite right to call on fans to be “activists not bystanders” 

    I have some issues with KIO as an organisation but what they are saying here is, IMHO, correct and their aims are worthy and correct.
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,234
    PFA having a meeting with Leko today. Bit late. 

    I wonder why they didn’t contact him directly? He is a member surely?

    https://twitter.com/pfa/status/1235295092224806918?s=21 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    Henry Irving said:
    PragueAddick said:
    sirjohnhumphrey said:
    Kick It Out saying they approached Charlton twice but heard nothing back.
    Where did you read that?  On their Twitter feed  there is not a word on the entire case.

    Both the club and Matt Southall have managed to put out effective, measured tweets



    but not this lot, for whom this case is, to ought to be, central to their remit.

    But they apparently think it's all down to us fans to kick racism out of football.
    @PragueAddick

    Firstly, he doesn't say it's ALL down to us fans at all.

    Secondly, he is quite right to call on fans to be “activists not bystanders” 

    I have some issues with KIO as an organisation but what they are saying here is, IMHO, correct and their aims are worthy and correct.
    I agree that their aims are worthy and correct. And I know from talking to Ben Tegg many years ago that they did some very good work, including with our club. That is why I was very surprised to read Jonathon's words, and naturally went looking for background. I discovered absolute silence in terms of of his case, and a background story from last year of internal issues in the organisation, which seems unfortunately to be something of a theme in high profile UK based charities and NGOs at this time. The article I quote seems therefore to be highly unfortunate, dating as it does from around the time of this incident, which was widely covered in the media and therefore unmissable by an organisation with its remit.

    They need to up their own game. 
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,234
    PragueAddick said:
    sirjohnhumphrey said:
    Kick It Out saying they approached Charlton twice but heard nothing back.
    Where did you read that?  On their Twitter feed  there is not a word on the entire case.

    Both the club and Matt Southall have managed to put out effective, measured tweets



    but not this lot, for whom this case is, to ought to be, central to their remit.

    But they apparently think it's all down to us fans to kick racism out of football.
    This tweet mentions it. Not sure if true.

    https://twitter.com/mirrordarren/status/1235297649395408897?s=21 

  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,503
    Troy Townsend [Kick it out] now on TalkSport discussing the incident.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,503
    Townsend seemed to blame Charlton/WBA for not passing on messages when he or his organisation tried to contact Leko.
    TalkSport are now trying to get a response from CAFC.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,827
    clive said:
    Townsend seemed to blame Charlton/WBA for not passing on messages when he or his organisation tried to contact Leko.
    TalkSport are now trying to get a response from CAFC.
    Good luck with that , ive been waiting 3 months for a response from the club.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    clive said:
    Townsend seemed to blame Charlton/WBA for not passing on messages when he or his organisation tried to contact Leko.
    TalkSport are now trying to get a response from CAFC.
    He certainly is, and mainly Charlton. Well, let's see what the club says. I wonder which two CAFC officials they contacted. I suppose Chris Parkes would be one. Hard to imagine him not passing such a message on, especially when Macauley Bonne has been ready to step up to the plate for Jonathon  in a big way, which is hugely to his credit.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,260
    Who was our CEO in September?

    Oh, yeah we didn't have one.
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,503
    For those that missed Troy Townsend on TalkSport, https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1583402400/1583406000/ starts from 05.40.

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    clive said:
    Townsend seemed to blame Charlton/WBA for not passing on messages when he or his organisation tried to contact Leko.
    TalkSport are now trying to get a response from CAFC.
    So is Townsend concentrating more on Leko's statement rather than the incident itself?
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,864
    PragueAddick said:
    sirjohnhumphrey said:
    Kick It Out saying they approached Charlton twice but heard nothing back.
    Where did you read that?  On their Twitter feed  there is not a word on the entire case.

    Both the club and Matt Southall have managed to put out effective, measured tweets



    but not this lot, for whom this case is, to ought to be, central to their remit.

    But they apparently think it's all down to us fans to kick racism out of football.
    A journalist named Martin Ziegler tweeted it. He is chief reporter for The Times
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,503
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5e612a9c7edd4/bowyer-and-southall-speak-following-fa-verdict
  • allez les addicks
    allez les addicks Posts: 1,432
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    paulie8290 said:
    Leeds still havent put anything on their twitter I see, nothing about The FA releasing the document, they clearly know it goes against their initial statement and makes them look like twats
    The truly ridiculous thing here is that Leeds were obviously present throughout the hearing, knew what Casilla was accused of saying and knew what he was being banned for..............yet still put out that initial statement. 
    Hardly surprising when you read the comments in the report about the team manager effectively blocking the enquiry. 

    Also implied that Casilla’a defence and the squad statements were orchestrated by their Comms - shame that wasn’t really in the remit of the panel as they couldn’t do more than imply it for fear of legal action. In any other industry, not only would Casilla be sacked after a verdict like that, but so would the Team Manager and Head of Comms. 

    Disgrace all round
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    In fairness to Leeds fans i've seen quite a few saying they want Casilla out of the club and wondering just why the club has stood by him
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,812
    Henry Irving said:
    What a lovely surprise to find these beautiful thank you flowers from Jonathan Leko on my desk this morning. I’m so proud of him for his bravery during a very difficult 22 weeks 🙌💪 #cafc https://t.co/gdDhiRpzUB

    This tweet from @Tracey answers any questions over whether Leko felt supported by Charlton staff.
    I don’t think there was ever any doubt that Tracey would’ve been looking out for him.
    She’s fast turning into as much of a Charlton icon as her old fella.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,027
    Fumbluff said:
    lordromford said:
    Henry Irving said:
    What a lovely surprise to find these beautiful thank you flowers from Jonathan Leko on my desk this morning. I’m so proud of him for his bravery during a very difficult 22 weeks 🙌💪 #cafc https://t.co/gdDhiRpzUB

    This tweet from @Tracey answers any questions over whether Leko felt supported by Charlton staff.
    I don’t think there was ever any doubt that Tracey would’ve been looking out for him.
    She’s fast turning into as much of a Charlton icon as her old fella.
    She’d probably get a better goals per game ratio too
    Fumbluff said:
    lordromford said:
    Henry Irving said:
    What a lovely surprise to find these beautiful thank you flowers from Jonathan Leko on my desk this morning. I’m so proud of him for his bravery during a very difficult 22 weeks 🙌💪 #cafc https://t.co/gdDhiRpzUB

    This tweet from @Tracey answers any questions over whether Leko felt supported by Charlton staff.
    I don’t think there was ever any doubt that Tracey would’ve been looking out for him.
    She’s fast turning into as much of a Charlton icon as her old fella.
    She’d probably get a better goals per game ratio too
    😂😭😭😭🤣

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  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    clive said:
    Townsend seemed to blame Charlton/WBA for not passing on messages when he or his organisation tried to contact Leko.
    TalkSport are now trying to get a response from CAFC.
    Given what we know about the player liaison team at the club and the individuals in that team, KIO and Townsend's version of events is hard to credit.
    Seeing as how JL has acknowledged at least one CAFC person's role, there would appear to be an even bigger gap between that version and what's likely.
    I'm sure the gutter press parasites have taken a tiny chink and blown it up in their tawdry fashion but if I were Townsend I'd be making sure of my facts before allowing myself to be quoted by those louses.
    Only JL and MB came out of this with any credit at all. 
  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,258
    edited March 2020
    iainambler said:
    This shows how little the FA care about such appalling actions. 

    1.  If I had, during the course of my working day, gone up to a black colleague and said “you f***ing n*****” and the resulting disciplinary hearings found the same balance of probabilities went against me I’d have been dismissed for gross misconduct. 

    2. I seriously doubt it would have taken anywhere near as long as 22 weeks for the hearings to be completed and the findings determined. 

    3. I would have been suspended whilst the investigations and hearings were in progress.  

    Why on Earth is football any different?


    But then again, if, during your working day, you deliberately kicked, tripped, pushed, lied to and about your colleagues, you would almost certainly be sacked. Part of most footballers working days.
  • RolandsOut
    RolandsOut Posts: 81
    How is this ‘alleged’ incident (no complaint from player who was ‘bitten’ or his club) a 6 game ban and Casilla only 8. It must be tackled with harsher penalties in order to change attitudes. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    So is this shithouse still suspended or will the efl cite extenuating circumstances and let him play?
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,827
    edited June 2020
    Good to see leeds with the blacks lives mater t shirts
    For them is it black lives matter apart from Johnathan Lekos?
    #kickracismoutwhenitsuits
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    edited July 2020
    Bielsa refused to say who would be in goal tomorrow but has apparently said he will speak to the players before making a decision 


  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    Leeds fans not happy on twitter saying he shouldn't be involved 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,597
    Be bloody brilliant if Casilla came back into the team and for Leeds to lose their last three games with Brentford taking their place in the top two
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,333
    At least the club and the fans are aware of the issues.

    At least it’s should mean that our team will not be put in a difficult situation when they play us.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    In fairness reading the replies, there doesn't seem to be a single Leeds fan who wants him to come back in. Many are saying he should never play for Leeds again.

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