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Arsenal my god.

What was al that about. That was one of the worst premiership performances I can remember.
Gutless. Even with our depleted squad we would never have given up like that.
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  • Plenty of times we did don't worry about that. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,730
    They’ve played worse than that in the last couple of months . By the way De Bruyne was outstanding in the first half . As good a performance as I’ve seen in recent years.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    1 shot on target 33 seconds in. 
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    They have so much to do just to become a top 4 team again, the defence is laughable. De Bruyne's first goal Kolasinac actually moves his head away from the ball. Probably thought it might sting, bless him.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    it’s fucking hilarious how poor they are at the moment....makes going to work more amusing ;) 
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    Surely got to be a capital G there ?

    Gooners are shite
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited December 2019
    Im loving it after the stick Wenger got by their dopes on the cringefest fan videos.

    Like arsenal very much as a club and generally want them to do well but knew that Wenger was being under appreciated and it was be exposed that the problems come from elsewhere and what a superb manager he was.  Was a complete lack of respect from the deluded and entitled element of their fanbase.

    A few years as a mid table nothing club will perhaps give them a sense of perspective. 

    (take heed those loons currently calling for Bowyer to be ousted).

  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    It feels like it must be at least a decade now since I started expecting them to go out and spend big on a centre back at the start of every transfer window, and every transfer window they have failed to do that and instead spent their money on an exciting or creative attacking player.

    I really think their attacking players are on a par with anyone else in Europe, but some of their defensive players would struggle to get in a bottom Prem/top end Championship side.

    I don't understand. Just buy some proper defenders and a proper captain.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    You’ve had 2 senior players in the last few weeks having tantrums on the pitch 
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  • MrLargo said:
    It feels like it must be at least a decade now since I started expecting them to go out and spend big on a centre back at the start of every transfer window, and every transfer window they have failed to do that and instead spent their money on an exciting or creative attacking player.

    I really think their attacking players are on a par with anyone else in Europe, but some of their defensive players would struggle to get in a bottom Prem/top end Championship side.

    I don't understand. Just buy some proper defenders and a proper captain.
    Yep, when you see Palace signing the likes of Cahill you'd think a couple of signings like that would see them right.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Can't see a problem ----- long may their pain continue



  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited December 2019
    Only club never to have been relegated from the top flight however they never reached it on merit in 1919 either having finished 5th in the old second tier the previous year. They won a vote by the then Division one clubs over Spurs.

    Edit; As Woolwich Arsenal however they were relegated to the old second division at the end of the 1912/13 season before their move to North London in the 1913 close season and name change to 'The Arsenal' in April 1914. It's a moot point but as the revamped Arsenal they haven't been relegated.
  • RedChaser said:
    Only club never to have been relegated from the top flight however they never reached it on merit in 1919 either having finished 5th in the old second tier the previous year.
    Everton also I thought?
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    Me too until recently but an executive box Everton fan I know put me straight recently. Here you go;

    Everton were relegated for the second time in 1950–51 and did not earn promotion until 1953–54, when they finished as runners-up in their third season in the Second Division. The club has been a top-flight presence eversince.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited December 2019
    Naby would improve the Arsenal defence, which is a comment on the current incumbents rather than BeckenSarr.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,840
    Couldnt happen to a nicer or more deserving bunch.

    I wonder if they still think finishing second was bad?
  • They are just like us but on a bigger scale, thought they were better or deserved much better than what they had.

    You naturally stagnate when you have a manager in charge for a certain period of time you hit that ceiling and always want more.

    But seeing arsenals demise, really does make me laugh because majority of the fans still live in the "glory" days don't understand the game has moved on. 
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  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    I will never have sympathy for fans who feel like they are “suffering” because the major team that they cherry-picked to support are no longer successful. 
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    What good manager wants to deal with Arsenal. They feel like the next Everton.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,346
    MrLargo said:
    It feels like it must be at least a decade now since I started expecting them to go out and spend big on a centre back at the start of every transfer window, and every transfer window they have failed to do that and instead spent their money on an exciting or creative attacking player.

    I really think their attacking players are on a par with anyone else in Europe, but some of their defensive players would struggle to get in a bottom Prem/top end Championship side.

    I don't understand. Just buy some proper defenders and a proper captain.

    Yes! I’ve always found that flabbergasting. When they were a Premiership winning side they had the likes of Sol Campbell and Tony Adams at the back.  What do they have now, Sokratis and Luiz? Then they go out and spend 70 million on… a winger. I’ve just never understood it. And when I talk to Arsenal fans about it, the problem is barely on their radar.

    And Ozil mystifies me. Gooners practically brown-nose the bloke, but his body language on the pitch is a disgrace. He goes missing in matches, walks about, sulks when they’re losing, is clearly a problem in the dressing room, and Arsenal fans won’t hear any criticism of him.  


  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    edited December 2019
    I don't sympathise with them at all, but can certainly understand their frustrations.

    They pay the highest ticket prices in the world and they moved from Highbury to the Emirates with the promise that in doing so, they could compete with the worlds biggest clubs, and now look at them. They have an owner who doesn't seem interested in the club, they're struggling to find a top manager and their transfers have been a disaster.

    Spurs have overtaken them on the pitch and look how quickly they acted when they got rid of Pochettino. Jose was in the next day. Arsenal still haven't got a managerial plan and they sacked Emery 2-3 weeks ago.
  • It’s brilliant watching Arsenal as they are incredibly rubbish. Finishing 8th is probably the best case scenario. Can’t see them finishing above Wolves.

    Arsenal to not appear to have any type of plan what’s so ever in place. Could do with Aubameyang being sold to really push them down the table.

    Wengerout
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    They will suffer from postwengerism the same way that Utd have suffered from postfergieism both managers didn't really leave the club with good squads and management didn't really get how to tackle the void they left 
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    lolwray said:
    They will suffer from postwengerism the same way that Utd have suffered from postfergieism both managers didn't really leave the club with good squads and management didn't really get how to tackle the void they left 
    Come to think of it we still haven't recovered from curbs leaving 
  • When you've had a manager for 15 or more years like Curbs, Fergie, Wenger the change is huge. They weren't just team managers but all three set the culture across the whole club / business. It is easy to underestimate the vacuum left but history shows it is very difficult to fill.

    The consequence is clearly a long period of instability and lack of success without that leader showing the way.

    Things can only get better? Seems not.
  • YTS1978
    YTS1978 Posts: 1,700
    My eldest supports Arsenal, so i do take an interest in them. Was watching pepe yesterday and wondering how/why they paid 70m for him. All flashy flicks, but absolutely no end product. A winger in a team that dont play wingers! I mean who the hell sanctioned that transfer? Just buy a couple of decent defenders and a defensive midfielder ffs. Oh, and playing lacazette occasionally might help too. 
  • There are ups and downs with football clubs but sadly some fans of the bigger clubs seem to think endless success is guaranteed. I'm assuming Arsenal will lose a lot of their recent fans who want to invest in a new 'brand'.

    It's good for the game when new teams come to the fore or so I think.