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Millwall tickets to go on restricted sale (SOLD OUT)
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:golfaddick said:Cant be arsed to get an arguement about loyalty points & all that jazz. The arguement should surely be about the amount of tickets we've been given. If we had both tiers then we would have had plenty of tickets. Blame the idiots who lob seats & flares and Millwall fans who retaliate.
As mentioned on here before, clubs manage to cope with segregating rival fans in big games (Utd/Liverpool, Rangers/Celtic, Villa/Birmingham etc) despite them both being in the same stand, yet Milwall bless em, can't cope with fans in another stand.However, when you get a team like Charlton, who have never really had a reputation, turning up, throwing seats, throwing flares, making charges towards the home end in the bottom corner (I was there, this happened) then maybe the club have just thought bollocks to it, it’s just not worth it.So just because no one gets the bottom stand these days doesn’t mean you’re totally blameless. Your shit stinks as well.9 -
In fact, I’m pretty sure that day was the last time anyone got the bottom tier, and we’ve played plenty of big ‘mild’ clubs since then so that backs up my point2
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MillwallFan said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:golfaddick said:Cant be arsed to get an arguement about loyalty points & all that jazz. The arguement should surely be about the amount of tickets we've been given. If we had both tiers then we would have had plenty of tickets. Blame the idiots who lob seats & flares and Millwall fans who retaliate.
As mentioned on here before, clubs manage to cope with segregating rival fans in big games (Utd/Liverpool, Rangers/Celtic, Villa/Birmingham etc) despite them both being in the same stand, yet Milwall bless em, can't cope with fans in another stand.However, when you get a team like Charlton, who have never really had a reputation, turning up, throwing seats, throwing flares, making charges towards the home end in the bottom corner (I was there, this happened) then maybe the club have just thought bollocks to it, it’s just not worth it.So just because no one gets the bottom stand these days doesn’t mean you’re totally blameless. Your shit stinks as well.16 -
ElfsborgAddick said:MillwallFan said:Chris_from_Sidcup said:golfaddick said:Cant be arsed to get an arguement about loyalty points & all that jazz. The arguement should surely be about the amount of tickets we've been given. If we had both tiers then we would have had plenty of tickets. Blame the idiots who lob seats & flares and Millwall fans who retaliate.
As mentioned on here before, clubs manage to cope with segregating rival fans in big games (Utd/Liverpool, Rangers/Celtic, Villa/Birmingham etc) despite them both being in the same stand, yet Milwall bless em, can't cope with fans in another stand.However, when you get a team like Charlton, who have never really had a reputation, turning up, throwing seats, throwing flares, making charges towards the home end in the bottom corner (I was there, this happened) then maybe the club have just thought bollocks to it, it’s just not worth it.So just because no one gets the bottom stand these days doesn’t mean you’re totally blameless. Your shit stinks as well.14 -
Flares and ripped up seats came from the upper tier. Good thing they didn't just allocated us the lower tier!
System isn't perfect but better than it used to be. Feel free to argue amongst yourselfs for the next 2 weeks before moaning about losing a derby and people standing.3 -
roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.It had to start somewhere if you go back where you drew the line?I feel for those who missed out and if they had given us the lower tier it would be fine but the loyalty system is fair and does what it was set out to do reward most regular attending fans it really is that simple.4 -
Ducktapeshoerepairs said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.It had to start somewhere if you go back where you drew the line?I feel for those who missed out and if they had given us the lower tier it would be fine but the loyalty system is fair and does what it was set out to do reward most regular attending fans it really is that simple.3 -
@Big_Bad_World Got to give it to you, I do enjoy reading your posts! All friendly banter
See you in the Kings Head for a pint4 -
robroy said:@Big_Bad_World Got to give it to you, I do enjoy reading your posts! All friendly banter
See you in the Kings Head for a pint0 -
Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.4 - Sponsored links:
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Big_Bad_World said:robroy said:@Big_Bad_World Got to give it to you, I do enjoy reading your posts! All friendly banter
See you in the Kings Head for a pint0 -
Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.2 -
Ducktapeshoerepairs said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.It had to start somewhere if you go back where you drew the line?I feel for those who missed out and if they had given us the lower tier it would be fine but the loyalty system is fair and does what it was set out to do reward most regular attending fans it really is that simple.1 -
robroy said:Big_Bad_World said:robroy said:@Big_Bad_World Got to give it to you, I do enjoy reading your posts! All friendly banter
See you in the Kings Head for a pint0 -
If we took account of the previous actions of a minority of fans Millwall fans would be banned from every ground in the country0
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genevajim said:If we took account of the previous actions of a minority of fans Millwall fans would be banned from every ground in the country6
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Simonsen said:Ducktapeshoerepairs said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:roseandcrown said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:PaddyP17 said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:JoshrewCAFC said:Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.It had to start somewhere if you go back where you drew the line?I feel for those who missed out and if they had given us the lower tier it would be fine but the loyalty system is fair and does what it was set out to do reward most regular attending fans it really is that simple.0 -
Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.
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Big_Bad_World said:robroy said:Big_Bad_World said:robroy said:@Big_Bad_World Got to give it to you, I do enjoy reading your posts! All friendly banter
See you in the Kings Head for a pint1 -
Very funny BBW like it however my comment stands and is valid not sure why Millwall don’t allow anyone to use the lower tier unless they are scared of the actions of their own fans0
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Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.0 -
genevajim said:Very funny BBW like it however my comment stands and is valid not sure why Millwall don’t allow anyone to use the lower tier unless they are scared of the actions of their own fans2
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Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.
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MillwallFan said:In fact, I’m pretty sure that day was the last time anyone got the bottom tier, and we’ve played plenty of big ‘mild’ clubs since then so that backs up my point
Did they cause any aggro that day? And if not, why has no other club been given it since?0 -
Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.2 -
Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.
What business is it of yours?
But since you'll go on and on about it otherwise, the answer is no, not yet but I hope a spare might still pop up.0 -
Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.
What business is it of yours?
But since you'll go on and on about it otherwise, the answer is no, not yet but I hope a spare might still pop up.
Rumour has it you invented the points system, that may be BS as well though4 -
Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:Medders said:Henry Irving said:JoshrewCAFC said:cafctom said:Well I’m with you Paddy.
I can see both sides. The loyalty points system will be brilliant in a few years, hopefully after the rat has gone.
I bought Valley Gold in the end to ensure I could get tickets. And yes I do have a current season ticket before anyone gets the hump.
Juat can't understand these nonsensical arguments that the loyalty system is broken, and that somehow people who boycotted are just as entitled to tickets as people going week in week out for the past few seasons.
That was a choice I made and don't regret it.
The loyalty scheme is reasonable and rewards those who go away most often.
I posted that joke before they'd even gone on sale.
What business is it of yours?
But since you'll go on and on about it otherwise, the answer is no, not yet but I hope a spare might still pop up.
Rumour has it you invented the points system, that may be BS as well though
No, I didn't invent this points system.
I did help create a much earlier version but it wasn't kept up.0 -
The worth of a season ticket in terms of preferential treatment for restricted ticket matches demonstrated loud and clear.
460 points (2 years) not enough it would seem.
Hey ho.0 -
That was the wheel Medders2