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Millwall tickets to go on restricted sale (SOLD OUT)
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This thread has just took a mighty leap for the worse4
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Indeed. Don’t need to prove myself as to why I was boycotting last year, as I know that I’ll be there every home game this season - and every one next season, and the one after that, and the one after that - regardless of the division, or how “crap” it gets at any point.blackpool72 said:This thread has just took a mighty leap for the worse2 -
How many points do you get for a season ticket0
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I'd also like to point out that I was in fact there most of the last few seasons, but U11 tickets don't count toward one's loyalty points!7
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But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.
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But surely those who have gone most last 16 months deserve it and have more points to get tickets at first few phases?PaddyP17 said:
But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?10 -
It’s pretty blatant isn’t it, I like the mental gymnastics some will resort to in order to justify why they deserve a ticket over those who have been going regularly over the past couple of the seasons.Boughtonaddicks said:I keep seeing the words when I was boycotting, when surely they mean when I stopped going because we were a bit crap and in league one.4 -
Argue argue argue, you should know the rules and therefore you take an informed choice. Do what ever you want to, but don't then whinge about the choice you have taken.14
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Because it's in its infancy at the minute and starts from an arbitrary point with zero purchasing history taken into account before the introduction of the scheme.roseandcrown said:
But surely those who have gone most last 16 months deserve it and have more points to get tickets at first few phases?PaddyP17 said:
But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.
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Gutted not to be going; have been to Millwall home and away every game since we last beat them when I have been in the country.
Gave up the season ticket 3 years ago after I don’t know how many years, but been a regular for 36. I was late to cotton onto the points system and find myself with naff all as I have bought on the door and occasionally through here after games have sold out.
However, I recognise that plenty of people have kept on going and they deserve their place ahead of me in the queue whether they have gone for 1 year or for 100, I could have bought a ST but chose not to, this is the consequence.
If i see a spare pop up on here I will go for it but I decided at the start of the ticket system that I would not ask someone ahead of me in the queue to buy for me whilst the selling was in course as it does not seem fair.
Even if not there, I am delighted we sold out and hope we smash them, will follow on the thread on here if no spares come up.
should be buying my Bristol City ticket tomorrow and can’t wait. Mid-week games are way easier for me with little ones anyway.7 - Sponsored links:
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Let the youngsters and the jonny come latelys have their local day out.
The real fans will be at Bristol City
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The real fans will be at Bristol, WBA AND Millwall. But not at Middlesbrough as I can't be botheredAFKABartram said:Let the youngsters and the jonny come latelys have their local day out.
The real fans will be at Bristol City
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It starts from zero again next season. Why do you then deserve to be on the same points as me when I've had an ST for the seasons you've boycotted and done multiple aways too?PaddyP17 said:
Because it's in its infancy at the minute and starts from an arbitrary point with zero purchasing history taken into account before the introduction of the scheme.roseandcrown said:
But surely those who have gone most last 16 months deserve it and have more points to get tickets at first few phases?PaddyP17 said:
But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.
It's always going to be flawed depending on how you want to look at it, but it's fairer than what we had before.4 -
Isn’t the loyalty system only going to go back 2 seasons , so last seasons and this season for now .
next season will be this season and next (last season gets wiped)
im guessing I read this but not certain , anyone know if this is the case ?4 -
Yes,that is what was said to me at the meeting i attended when the scheme was being set up.oohaahmortimer said:Isn’t the loyalty system only going to go back 2 seasons , so last seasons and this season for now .
next season will be this season and next (last season gets wiped)
im guessing I read this but not certain , anyone know if this is the case ?1 -
Managed to get Millwall tickets last gasp!
That said, I’ve seen the arguments on the loyalty points but I’m still with the “slightly unfair” mob. I think more points should be awarded for attending an away game, particular ones miles away and midweek, that would fix it IMO.4 -
How do you watch abroad will be in Lanzarote for the game.0
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Got our 6 no probs - 2 of ours have been to 1 game all season and no aways so if you wanted a ticket and didn’t get one it’s either an unfair system or your Billy no mates - fairest would probably be 1 ticket per person as I assume it must be 2 at moment0
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Valley Player - £5 a match overseas I think.palarsehater said:How do you watch abroad will be in Lanzarote for the game.There’s probably a Millwall Player that you can watch it on with their commentary, if you fancy listening to guys who have about 15 words in their vocabulary describe a football match!5 -
Yeah I actually think for games like these, especially at the early stages, it should be one ticket per person.DOUCHER said:Got our 6 no probs - 2 of ours have been to 1 game all season and no aways so if you wanted a ticket and didn’t get one it’s either an unfair system or your Billy no mates - fairest would probably be 1 ticket per person as I assume it must be 2 at moment1 - Sponsored links:
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slightly of topic...I’m bang in trouble with me littleun,she was desperate to go to this Millwall game,but I knew that wouldn’t happen with the points system,so had a back up plan...& now that’s not happening either....Lionesses v Germany (on same day) SOLD OUT too...!!!0
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Its not really an “arbitrary” point in time, it’s based on your attendance record for the current and previous season, as it will be next year (so 2018/19 attendance pints will drop off).PaddyP17 said:
Because it's in its infancy at the minute and starts from an arbitrary point with zero purchasing history taken into account before the introduction of the scheme.roseandcrown said:
But surely those who have gone most last 16 months deserve it and have more points to get tickets at first few phases?PaddyP17 said:
But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.
How would they, objectively, calculate into the system your “loyalty”? It would be hard to assign points to people who had a long standing history of regular attendance until we were a bit rubbish, then decided not to come because they were “boycotting” due to the owner, but then miraculously ended their protest because we got a bit good again (despite the owner being here).11 -
se9addick said:
Valley Player - £5 a match overseas I think.palarsehater said:How do you watch abroad will be in Lanzarote for the game.There’s probably a Millwall Player that you can watch it on with their commentary, if you fancy listening to guys who have about 15 words in their vocabulary describe a football match!
Correct, there is.Unfortunately you need 785 loyalty points, 3 receipts from the Millwall cafe, a 'I Love RD' lapel badge and proof that you have less than 15 words in your vocabulary.
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Cant be arsed to get an arguement about loyalty points & all that jazz. The arguement should surely be about the amount of tickets we've been given. If we had both tiers then we would have had plenty of tickets. Blame the idiots who lob seats & flares and Millwall fans who retaliate.13
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Would be great if we got both tiers, but I do understand why.
I've been to The Den twice, and seen 0-0 both times lol hopefully see us score some goals this time.
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But it will only ever be on a 2 year basis I believe so at the end of this year 18/19 season will come off.PaddyP17 said:
Because it's in its infancy at the minute and starts from an arbitrary point with zero purchasing history taken into account before the introduction of the scheme.roseandcrown said:
But surely those who have gone most last 16 months deserve it and have more points to get tickets at first few phases?PaddyP17 said:
But equally - and of course, this doesn't apply to me - what if fans couldn't attend, or get season tickets etc, for reasons beyond their control (a work placement or ill health or financial difficulties or something)?JoshrewCAFC said:
You chose to boycott, as did others.PaddyP17 said:
As one of the direct beneficiaries of the situation, I'd like to offer my tuppenny's worth. This is quite long-winded.JoshrewCAFC said:
But they will sell out. They can't get them because others have more loyalty points...Baldybonce said:
For people who can’t get them.JoshrewCAFC said:
Why would you buy them?Baldybonce said:I’ve just got two and i’m not even going!
So if anyone is desperate to go i’ve got two adult tickets available.
I have 250 loyalty points, from getting a season ticket this year, after three seasons without, due to dissatisfaction with the ownership. I now have a ST in spite of Duchatelet, and because of Bowyer.
I went to nearly every home game last year and a handful of away games. This has been the case since I became an adult, with the exception of when I was at university in a different part of the country - but even then, I still had a season ticket, which I allowed others to use free of charge when I wasn't about (so most of the season). When I was at uni, I still went to various away games, too. We were in League One at the time, so this wasn't difficult.
The "loyalty" scheme came in while near the nadir of Roland's tenure thus far: I had no intention of getting a season ticket, and accordingly, match ticket purchases were limited, so I didn't accrue any meaningful number of points.
I think the scheme rewards recency bias in a time where there has been great fan unrest. I definitely don't have enough loyalty points from the last couple of seasons to get tickets, but based on, well, my lifetime support for this club, it would be churlish to deem me undeserving of a ticket.
Someone might disagree, but the points system is - for a club in our situation - a flawed metric. Perhaps necessary, but flawed nonetheless.
Your history as a supporter means absolutely nothing for the loyalty system, and that is the way it should be. It doesn't matter if someone had a season ticket for 30years straight. If they haven't had one for the past 3 years they shouldn't get priority over those that have been going for the past 2 seasons.
If we went my lifelong history, no new fans would ever get tickets.
I don't think the loyalty system is bad at all. More that it is flawed, and new enough that there are teething problems. In a few seasons, I'm certain the system will be more reflective of and prioritise, for want of a better term, those who deserve it more.In another 12 months time that will again be the case in that the people who have gone most will be rewarded by first phases as they deserve.Can’t see how the system now is not reflective of that?
I stand by what I said above - i.e. in a few seasons, the points system will be better, because there will be more data to work with.It had to start somewhere if you go back where you drew the line?I feel for those who missed out and if they had given us the lower tier it would be fine but the loyalty system is fair and does what it was set out to do reward most regular attending fans it really is that simple.4 -
Plenty of clubs who don't cause any trouble (Fulham for example) go there and only get the upper tier, so not sure you can blame away fans that much. Blame Millwall and/or the police who for some reason can't cope with 2 sets of fans in different stands.golfaddick said:Cant be arsed to get an arguement about loyalty points & all that jazz. The arguement should surely be about the amount of tickets we've been given. If we had both tiers then we would have had plenty of tickets. Blame the idiots who lob seats & flares and Millwall fans who retaliate.
As mentioned on here before, clubs manage to cope with segregating rival fans in big games (Utd/Liverpool, Rangers/Celtic, Villa/Birmingham etc) despite them both being in the same stand, yet Milwall bless em, can't cope with fans in another stand.7 -
Well you've blown your cover... there are 31 different words in your post above. Double the requirement for a Millwall supporter.Big_Bad_World said:se9addick said:
Valley Player - £5 a match overseas I think.palarsehater said:How do you watch abroad will be in Lanzarote for the game.There’s probably a Millwall Player that you can watch it on with their commentary, if you fancy listening to guys who have about 15 words in their vocabulary describe a football match!
Correct, there is.Unfortunately you need 785 loyalty points, 3 receipts from the Millwall cafe, a 'I Love RD' lapel badge and proof that you have less than 15 words in your vocabulary.
So come on BBW, who really are you?!1 -
Don't blame anyone. Accept that's your allocation and not whinge about it.
It's not like it's a cup final for you, or an important fixture in your calendar
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