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Conor Gallagher - Going to Athletico (p81)
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How's tricks Rambo?blackpool72 said:
Evening gazzaElfsborgAddick said:
You massively missed my point.soapboxsam said:
No pressure on young Connor but he will need to be Cullen, Bielik, and a young Lampard rolled into one if we don't get another 2 loans in and a couple of free transfers.ElfsborgAddick said:
Is this one of the 5?soapboxsam said:Good luck Conor.
We need another 4 good loanee's with quality to be competitive.
Depeche Mode on 55" box, all well.0 -
Which is what ?ElfsborgAddick said:
You massively missed my point.soapboxsam said:
No pressure on young Connor but he will need to be Cullen, Bielik, and a young Lampard rolled into one if we don't get another 2 loans in and a couple of free transfers.ElfsborgAddick said:
Is this one of the 5?soapboxsam said:Good luck Conor.
We need another 4 good loanee's with quality to be competitive.
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If we had signed Aribo for the £20,000 per week it would have taken to keep him and we had paid Bauer the £7500 per week to keep him, and we bought Cullen for the £2M fee (amortized over a 4 year contract) and we pay him £15,000 per week wage he would expect, then filled the remainder with the signings we have made plus a final couple loans....
I would predict we comfortably stay up. Maybe even be close to mid-table in 2019-20.
By my calculation the total additional FFP cost of all of this I outlined above would have been.... £2.7M for the coming season. That’s all.
We lost £10M last year (excluding transfer fee profits.) We will add £6M in turnover this year. We got £2M in sell on fees for Lookman. Subtract the £2.7M in additional costs I outlined above and the total loss to Roland in 2019-20 would be roughly £4.7M, half of last year.
This time next year we would be comfortable in The Championship with one of the lowest financial losses in the division. In London! Roland would have multiple suitors for such a club and at very good prices. Roland literally has no understanding of “return on investment”... only costs and this month’s losses.3 -
I like his hair
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Closer to £3m if you take Employers NI into account but your point still stands regarding our playing budget. Whilst I would have loved the three things above to happen I don't think spending 25% of our budget on 3 players would be a good idea. What happens to squad harmony when Aribo is on 4 times as much as everyone else for instance. Taylor would want that as well etc.NapaAddick said:If we had signed Aribo for the £20,000 per week it would have taken to keep him and we had paid Bauer the £7500 per week to keep him, and we bought Cullen for the £2M fee (amortized over a 4 year contract) and we pay him £15,000 per week wage he would expect, then filled the remainder with the signings we have made plus a final couple loans....
I would predict we comfortably stay up. Maybe even be close to mid-table in 2019-20.
By my calculation the total additional FFP cost of all of this I outlined above would have been.... £2.7M for the coming season. That’s all.
We lost £10M last year (excluding transfer fee profits.) We will add £6M in turnover this year. We got £2M in sell on fees for Lookman. Subtract the £2.7M in additional costs I outlined above and the total loss to Roland in 2019-20 would be roughly £4.7M, half of last year.
This time next year we would be comfortable in The Championship with one of the lowest financial losses in the division. In London! Roland would have multiple suitors for such a club and at very good prices. Roland literally has no understanding of “return on investment”... only costs and this month’s losses.
So yes, we should have a bigger budget, which could have been achieved if RD had any clue on how to run a club but substituting one madness for another won't be good for us.7 -
I was simply taking the piss...soapboxsam said:
Why are you digging out Amos ?Dazzler21 said:
Probably better than Amos still.Cafc43v3r said:
So was Gordon BanksDazzler21 said:
At one point he was England's no.1 so probably better than Amos still.Cafc43v3r said:
Well best get Rob Green signed upDazzler21 said:
He was good enough to make the bench in a Europa League final, have any of our other players done that?roseandcrown said:
Cullen replacement, will he he be an upgrade though?cafctom said:If he is their Academy Player of the Year then he must have some quality about him.
Based on the way Bowyer described him, it sounds like he has a similar traits to a Scott Parker type player - tenacious all rounder. Let’s hope he adds something!
Is this because he looked shaky in a friendly match against a premier side ?
I've seen him play 25 odd matches and never seen him make an obvious error.0 -
Bowyer said 5 loans so obviously it is.ElfsborgAddick said:
Is this one of the 5?soapboxsam said:Good luck Conor.
We need another 4 good loanee's with quality to be competitive.0 -
I think a loan like Gallagher shows you really how much we rely of Bowyer overcoming the handicap that Roland is. We can not provide any financial inducements, but Chelsea think a lot of this lad. They will only be interested in what we can bring to his development. Having a great track record and the players going back to their clubs happy and saying Charlton have made them better players is a fantastic card for Bowyer to play. As is the increased likliehood they will get first team football with us.
I am a great believer in finding a way. You must always look if there is a way and Bowyer is somebody who personifies that. I think we take a lot of the clever stuff he does to make these moves happen for granted. If he is successful again (successful being survival this season) you couldn't put it past him. The problem is, he is only on a one year deal. Another crazy Duchatelet call. If we are not sold, we will lose him and he has been the biggest slice of fortune we have had in recent years.4 -
Uh-ohNapaAddick said:If we had signed Aribo for the £20,000 per week it would have taken to keep him and we had paid Bauer the £7500 per week to keep him, and we bought Cullen for the £2M fee (amortized over a 4 year contract) and we pay him £15,000 per week wage he would expect, then filled the remainder with the signings we have made plus a final couple loans....
I would predict we comfortably stay up. Maybe even be close to mid-table in 2019-20.
By my calculation the total additional FFP cost of all of this I outlined above would have been.... £2.7M for the coming season. That’s all.
We lost £10M last year (excluding transfer fee profits.) We will add £6M in turnover this year. We got £2M in sell on fees for Lookman. Subtract the £2.7M in additional costs I outlined above and the total loss to Roland in 2019-20 would be roughly £4.7M, half of last year.
This time next year we would be comfortable in The Championship with one of the lowest financial losses in the division. In London! Roland would have multiple suitors for such a club and at very good prices. Roland literally has no understanding of “return on investment”... only costs and this month’s losses.
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Asked a professional footballer who knows him for his verdict. It wouldn't be difficult to find out who my source is with a bit of digging, but I'd rather not reveal and I'd rather people didn't ask me who I was speaking to (not to sound overly Billy big bollocks). I've paraphrased his points below:
- "very good player and a top person who works very hard" - first thing he said
- good technician and likes to run and make challenges
- as with every other player in his position, can he translate excellence at u23 to being good in the Championship?
- Bowyer's style is very similar to how Chelsea's academy teams set up which helps
- reckons he'll be a squad player until we suffer injuries.
I trust my mate's judgement and coupled with what I've seen of him, I think Conor is a really good signing. Not sure how he played today, but yeah.7 - Sponsored links:
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Simon church ?PaddyP17 said:Asked a professional footballer who knows him for his verdict. It wouldn't be difficult to find out who my source is with a bit of digging, but I'd rather not reveal and I'd rather people didn't ask me who I was speaking to (not to sound overly Billy big bollocks). I've paraphrased his points below:
- "very good player and a top person who works very hard" - first thing he said
- good technician and likes to run and make challenges
- as with every other player in his position, can he translate excellence at u23 to being good in the Championship?
- Bowyer's style is very similar to how Chelsea's academy teams set up which helps
- reckons he'll be a squad player until we suffer injuries.
I trust my mate's judgement and coupled with what I've seen of him, I think Conor is a really good signing. Not sure how he played today, but yeah.3 -
Omar Pouso actuallyblackpool72 said:
Simon church ?PaddyP17 said:Asked a professional footballer who knows him for his verdict. It wouldn't be difficult to find out who my source is with a bit of digging, but I'd rather not reveal and I'd rather people didn't ask me who I was speaking to (not to sound overly Billy big bollocks). I've paraphrased his points below:
- "very good player and a top person who works very hard" - first thing he said
- good technician and likes to run and make challenges
- as with every other player in his position, can he translate excellence at u23 to being good in the Championship?
- Bowyer's style is very similar to how Chelsea's academy teams set up which helps
- reckons he'll be a squad player until we suffer injuries.
I trust my mate's judgement and coupled with what I've seen of him, I think Conor is a really good signing. Not sure how he played today, but yeah.3 -
He showed some great touches and came close to scoring. At rimes he made runs which were a bit ambitious but as the rest of the team get to know him I feel he could add a lot to our attacking moves. Not a natural tackler but I’m sure Lee will add that to his game, a great prospect.1
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Just wonder if Chelsea will let us use him as a squad player...0
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If you are Chelsea's academy player of the year, you are a more than decent player. You don't need anybody to tell you that. I reckon he will be getting a lot of game time as that is how we can get that quality of loan over better resourced sides. It is Bowyer's edge. Finding a way to mitigate an unsupportive owner displays what a great manager he is. Now we need to see a couple more like that and we could have a decent season. Hopefully it will buy us the time to get rid of Roland and get Lee's contract extended.5
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Looked useful at Blackburn when he came on0
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Squad player? Would rather him start than Lapslie or maybe even JFC1
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The You Tube clip showed his attributes. I know you shouldn't take to much notice of those things but his ability shone through on it. You can either do the things he did on it or you can't. Most players can't.0
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Based on ?JoshAddick said:Squad player? Would rather him start than Lapslie or maybe even JFC0 -
There is no way we sign Chelsea's academy player of the year as a squad player. They will insist he isn't for starters.3
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Based on today. Lapslie isn’t ready for the Championship yet and Gallagher deserves his chance after his good cameo in the last 15 of today’s game. JFC hadn’t started a competitive game of football in over a year until today, and needs to be eased back into the team instead of playing week in week out for 90 minutesShootersHillGuru said:
Based on ?JoshAddick said:Squad player? Would rather him start than Lapslie or maybe even JFC1 -
Lapslie is a good player to bring in when you want an injection of energy.5
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Would be fine for the last 15 minutes of a game when the other team are tiring but he isn’t good enough to start in a Championship side imoMuttleyCAFC said:Lapslie is a good player to bring in when you want an injection of energy.2 -
The CP promotion side relied on few more than the starting XI. Not sure that four from JFC, Gallagher, Morgan Pratley and Williams can't do the business in midfield at this level. I think the Albie loan is a gee-up. We just need a decent quickie up front.0
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We need 2 more midfielders from the loan system - we dont have enough quality yet in the middle of the park imoharveys_gardener said:The CP promotion side relied on few more than the starting XI. Not sure that four from JFC, Gallagher, Morgan Pratley and Williams can't do the business in midfield at this level. I think the Albie loan is a gee-up. We just need a decent quickie up front.3 -
JoshAddick said:
Would be fine for the last 15 minutes of a game when the other team are tiring but he isn’t good enough to start in a Championship side imoMuttleyCAFC said:Lapslie is a good player to bring in when you want an injection of energy.
I'd take Morgan over Lapslie in that situation. It doesn't matter whether we were chasing or holding a lead either.0 -
Gotta remember the blocks that Lapslie was putting in when it was 1-0 and 1-1 he's not the most technically gifted but knows when to put his body on the lineSantaClaus said:JoshAddick said:
Would be fine for the last 15 minutes of a game when the other team are tiring but he isn’t good enough to start in a Championship side imoMuttleyCAFC said:Lapslie is a good player to bring in when you want an injection of energy.
I'd take Morgan over Lapslie in that situation. It doesn't matter whether we were chasing or holding a lead either.
Thats the side of the game we wont yet see (if at all) from Albie and in away games at the moment is why I see Bowyer lining up with the personel that he did today
Instead I think Morgan would be a great option if we went back to the diamond - Play him in a free role just off Taylor and the CAM with the licence to just go wherever he wants, they get a corner then Lyle come back and Morgan stays up ready to counter attack, not with pace yet with the ability to ping the ball anywhere when support does arrive1 -
He is Baby Beckham.Justin20474 said:I like his hair
Going to be massive for us this season.2 -
Morgan is a natural passer. To pass as well as him is impossible to teach. He looks for the passes and can execute. He is going to be some player. But we don't want to settle for just a great passer, make is all round game better and you have something special on your hands.2
