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Euro 2020 Qualification
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3-0 flattered Scotland - completely outclassed.se9addick said:Scotland were pretty rubbish. Belgium didn’t get out of second gear all game and probably could have scored 5 or 6 if they wanted.
On the plus side I’m pretty confident the Scotland fans to night are the drunkest set of supporters I’ve ever seen (and I’ve followed Scotland & Rangers around Europe a few times).0 -
out of the home nations
cannot see wales and scotland qaulifying - that late goal last night from hungary would of flattened wales, although scotland are guaranteed a playoff spot so will be interesting to see who they get
northern ireland will need something out of germany and holland and have to play both home and away
ireland may get through but think they needed a few more against gibraltar0 -
so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league
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Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 
Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 
Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 
Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 
Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 
Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0 0 -
If Ireland can get something from their next match at home to Switzerland then they have a good chance. Admittedly their 3 wins have only been against Georgia and Gibraltar (twice) but a draw in Denmark was a good result. They were also helped by Switzerland and Denmark drawing against each other.palarsehater said:out of the home nations
cannot see wales and scotland qaulifying - that late goal last night from hungary would of flattened wales, although scotland are guaranteed a playoff spot so will be interesting to see who they get
northern ireland will need something out of germany and holland and have to play both home and away
ireland may get through but think they needed a few more against gibraltar
They should all beat Georgia and Gibraltar so it's naturally going to come down to their results against each other, effectively making it a 3 team play off, same as NI with Germany and Holland.0 -
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0 0 -
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Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team0 -
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team0 -
looking at prices for the london wembley games - shows why uefa simply do not care about fans;Group stage
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dont know what fans first means anyone shed any light?0 -
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder1 - Sponsored links:
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Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder0 -
At first glance it seems a rip off but if England make the semis or the final then those tickets will be worth 10 times that.palarsehater said:looking at prices for the london wembley games - shows why uefa simply do not care about fans;Group stageCATEGORY 1€185CATEGORY 2€125CATEGORY 3€50Round of 16CATEGORY 1€185CATEGORY 2€125CATEGORY 3€50Semi-finalsCATEGORY 1€595CATEGORY 2€345CATEGORY 3€195FANS FIRST *€85FinalCATEGORY 1€945CATEGORY 2€595CATEGORY 3€295FANS FIRST *
dont know what fans first means anyone shed any light?
Also 100 quid for a category 2 ticket to the last 16 game doesn't seem too bad either.0 -
Think fans first means fans of the countries who are actually playing in those games0
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Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up1 -
A team like Germany dropping down to League B is mainly bad news for the other teams who end up in their group, as it makes it much harder to get 2nd place!ForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up
It's similar to N Ireland who've ended up with Germany and the Netherlands, presumably because the Netherlands were lower ranked at the time the draws were made3 -
Understood i think. Thanks for the patienceForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up1 -
Draws were made after the Nations League had been decidedkillerandflash said:
A team like Germany dropping down to League B is mainly bad news for the other teams who end up in their group, as it makes it much harder to get 2nd place!ForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up
It's similar to N Ireland who've ended up with Germany and the Netherlands, presumably because the Netherlands were lower ranked at the time the draws were made
Netherlands were in Pot 1 when the draw was made because they were of course one of the four top teams from League A - Germany went into Pot 2 because they were one of the worst two relegated teams from League A (only 10-Groups for Euro 2020 Qualification so only 10 of the 12 teams from League A were seeded), had they gotten just one more point they'd have been in Pot 1 too
Northern Ireland were Pot 3 because they themselves finished bottom of their Nations League Group
Had they not been relegated then they would have gone into Pot 2 and so would have missed both Netherlands and Germany0 -
N Ireland always seem to get a shitty hard group or maybe its my imaginationkillerandflash said:
A team like Germany dropping down to League B is mainly bad news for the other teams who end up in their group, as it makes it much harder to get 2nd place!ForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up
It's similar to N Ireland who've ended up with Germany and the Netherlands, presumably because the Netherlands were lower ranked at the time the draws were made0 -
I know we posted at the same time but unfortunately its their own fault this timeorpingtonRED said:
N Ireland always seem to get a shitty hard group or maybe its my imaginationkillerandflash said:
A team like Germany dropping down to League B is mainly bad news for the other teams who end up in their group, as it makes it much harder to get 2nd place!ForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up
It's similar to N Ireland who've ended up with Germany and the Netherlands, presumably because the Netherlands were lower ranked at the time the draws were made
Saying that having Bosnia and Austria in their Nations League Group wouldn't have been easy either...
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Finland has never qualified for a Euro or World Cup before.2
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Ironic then... They've got this Play-Off space available to them via. the Nations League setupDanepak said:Finland has never qualified for a Euro or World Cup before.
Might not even need it if they can remain in the top two of their Group which would be their best Qualifying finish ever
Teemu Pukki for Norwich was probably one of the best Free Transfers in the Football League last season, am curious to see how he steps up
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Surprising, considering they've had a few decent players down the years. The likes of Jaaskelainen and our own Jonatan JohanssonDanepak said:Finland has never qualified for a Euro or World Cup before.2 -
They're ranked about 50 in the world, so they're going to get tough draws as they're always in pot 3 or 4.orpingtonRED said:
N Ireland always seem to get a shitty hard group or maybe its my imaginationkillerandflash said:
A team like Germany dropping down to League B is mainly bad news for the other teams who end up in their group, as it makes it much harder to get 2nd place!ForeverAddickted said:
Your half right... When it comes to trying to Qualify for the Euros its probably the better option, doing that pre-World Cup Qualifying will be a lot riskier thoughorpingtonRED said:
Sorry i am probably being thick but i still dont get it. What stops a team purposely dropping down to League D and taking their chances that way?ForeverAddickted said:
Well Scotland are already assured of a Play-Off spot so doesnt really matter if they finish top two or not... the difference with the Play-Offs this year though compared with other years is the fact that only one team from each level will Qualify, i.e. instead of being a two legged affair its setup in the form of the Football League Play-Offs that we see every year (just without the two legs in the Semi-Finals)orpingtonRED said:
Cheers. So assuming most top ranked nations will qualify looking at the groups. Then lets say Scotland for example, will be in play offs with the likes of San Marino, Malta,Faroe Islands etc and one of them will definately qualify? Is that the point? So lesser teams get into a tournamentForeverAddickted said:
Top two from each Group will qualify automatically for the EurosorpingtonRED said:
You seem to know your Internationals and qualification routes. How does it work now after these group games are finished? In regards the Nations league i am still not sure how it is all decided who qualifies for the Euros.palarsehater said:so far the group that has suprised me is greeces group and how badly bosnia are doing. (x) means playoff spot gauranteed, due to nations league1 Italy4 4 0 0 13 1 +12 12 2 Finland (X)4 3 0 1 6 2 +4 9 3 Armenia4 2 0 2 7 6 +1 6 4 Greece4 1 1 2 6 8 −2 4 5 Bosnia and Herzegovina (X)4 1 1 2 5 7 −2 4 6 Liechtenstein4 0 0 4 0 13 −13 0
Play-Offs will then happen based on the Nations League Group winners from each Division (So there is a Play-Off for each of League A | B | C | D)
If one of the Nations League Group winners has qualified automatically then their Play-Off spot will go to the next best team
But yeah thats partly the point of the Nations League, i.e. League D Play-Off currently have: Georgia | Belarus | Kosovo | Macedonia, its unlikely that any of those will get automatic qualification to Euro 2020 so they'll face each other in the Play-Offs meaning one of those will be at the Finals come next June...
Firstly its a chance for lesser teams have a chance on the big stage but secondly they wont have the same opportunity next time because finishing top of their Nations League Group means they'll each be promoted to League C for the next campaign and so qualification will be even harder
e.g. Take the qualification numbers: Euro there are 24-Nations that Qualify; World Cup there are 14-spaces available... I imagine the next Nations League (pre-2022 World Cup) will be done slightly differently to the one we've seen this time around, i.e. imagine that the Leagues / Teams at each level will remain the same (will still be promotion / relegation) but dont think there will be a Play-Off for a League D team to try and qualify for the World Cup.
As for a team like Germany their relegation from League A this time around has already made their World Cup hopes a little bit harder.
i.e. They're now in League B means that they wont be one of the top seeds for World Cup Qualification, means they'll end up in a Group with one of the top seeds (potentially France | Italy | Spain etc.), World Cup Qualification from Europe usually sees just the top team from each Group getting automatic Qualification, imagine it'll be the same again so Germany may then be forced down a Play-Off route to reach the World Cup itself
Ultimately League A is probably the one Division you want to be in... There seems to be better organisation with the Seedings / FIFA Rankings using the Nations League so its better to be in League A to increase your chances of reaching Major Tournaments, else you're potentially having to rely on other Nations further up the ladder tripping up
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The problem for San Marino is that the postman who plays in goal is reaching retirement age, and doesn't know where his posts are any more.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Tough game for Russia. 9-0 v San Marino.
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Not to forget Jari Litmanen and Sami Hyypia.killerandflash said:
Surprising, considering they've had a few decent players down the years. The likes of Jaaskelainen and our own Jonatan JohanssonDanepak said:Finland has never qualified for a Euro or World Cup before.2 -
Litmanen at Ajax was a class player. Class1
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FIFA/UEFA "who can we rip off to make ourselves stinking rich?"palarsehater said:looking at prices for the london wembley games - shows why uefa simply do not care about fans;Group stageCATEGORY 1€185CATEGORY 2€125CATEGORY 3€50Round of 16CATEGORY 1€185CATEGORY 2€125CATEGORY 3€50Semi-finalsCATEGORY 1€595CATEGORY 2€345CATEGORY 3€195FANS FIRST *€85FinalCATEGORY 1€945CATEGORY 2€595CATEGORY 3€295FANS FIRST *
dont know what fans first means anyone shed any light?
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Jesus... €945 for a ticket right at the back of the top tier, only bonus is you not behind a goal!!
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have applied for semis and final as i would go regardless of who was in it the rest of the games im confident my england caps should be enough, have booked a cheapish flight out to dublin for the round of 16 as will be nigh on impossible to get anything sorted after final game of the group.1
