No more Champagne at FA Cup final

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6952189/amp/FA-scrap-tradition-awarding-case-champagne-FA-Cup-winners.html
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More sensible choice would be to have two options
The first for those who see it as being against their religious beliefs
The second option for those who dont have issue with it and get a choice if they want Champagne or not0 -
The proper tradition was pints of milk.1
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Just use the bubbly non alcoholic stuff they give at the Bahrain and UAE GP's3
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understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset.
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sam3110 said:Just use the bubbly non alcoholic stuff they give at the Bahrain and UAE GP's0
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We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.7
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This is why I’m voting Brexit Party...........7
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iainment said:The proper tradition was pints of milk.0
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palarsehater said:understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset.
understandable of course.
And people entertain this crap ffs.5 -
the cynic in me thinks this is about not upsetting the sponsors rather than the players.
wouldn't be surprised if it was brought up when it was renewed and rather than announcing it as soon as it was signed they agreed to do it by a certain time.
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The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.8
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PaddyP17 said:The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.2
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But is anyone really offended by players being awarded alcohol?0
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Not sure this really requires discussion on a Charlton Athletic forum!12
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:iainment said:The proper tradition was pints of milk.
I can think of a couple on CL in particular - unless it was coconut or almond milk!
#nutshavefeelingstoo
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Does anyone actually give a f#$$.
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all the faux outrage2
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Happy to have betting companies sponsoring all and sundry though, with it emblazoned on the shirts?
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Rothko said:all the faux outrage
Edit...assume you mean in the article and comments on mail website rather than on this thread...the daily mail exists on punting and generating faux outrage!2 -
Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.
Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.
The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.
I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.10 - Sponsored links:
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PaddyP17 said:The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.
It's tradition, get over it. Just read a story that a Scottish maritime museum is changing all its descriptive signage on its exhibits as some moronic visitor vandalised them by scratching out the word 'she' hwne a ship was mentioned. For hundreds of years ships have been described as female. "God bless all who sail in her" etc. Why not install CCTV (in which case the perpetrator could have been identified and prosecuted)? Or even cover the signage with plastic for a fraction of the price? This country is fast becoming a laughing stock.0 -
Big_Bad_World said:Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.
Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.
The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.
I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.9 -
PaddyP17 said:The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.
'Inclusivity' a word that raises my hackles. For me all are welcome into the great footballing family, but like any 'club' if you don't like the harmless traditions enjoyed by millions - feel free to leave.3 -
ShootersHillGuru said:Big_Bad_World said:Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.
Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.
The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.
I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.7 -
palarsehater said:understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset.
understandable of course.3 -
addick05 said:PaddyP17 said:The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.
'Inclusivity' a word that raises my hackles. For me all are welcome into the great footballing family, but like any 'club' if you don't like the harmless traditions enjoyed by millions - feel free to leave.
Totally agree. Inclusivity means a race to a low common denominator which becomes meaningless and excludes individual differences rather than be inclusive.To be truly inclusive then a vast selection of beverages should be available to enable freedom of choice - champagne, a nice single malt, milk (cows and vegan alternatives), fruit juice, Lilt, Umbongo, a range of cocktails, and, if really necessary, Adam's Ale.
I'll get me coat (other inclement weather apparel is available).
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PaddyP17 said:The Red Robin said:We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs.
If you don't want the champagne, don't take the champagne. Or in advance make the organisers aware of your beliefs so they can give you a non-alcoholic version.
Champagne has been and always will be a celebratory beverage even if it tastes vile.3 -
"The FA will instead put a case of an alcohol-free champagne substitute in the winning dressing room so players can replicate those spraying celebrations.
The FA's decision is not believed to have been the result of complaints from teams or players in the past but prompted within the organisation.
Sportsmail understands the FA had considered implementing the change sooner but were fully aware of being branded 'party-poopers'."
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Henry Irving said:
"The FA will instead put a case of an alcohol-free champagne substitute in the winning dressing room so players can replicate those spraying celebrations.
The FA's decision is not believed to have been the result of complaints from teams or players in the past but prompted within the organisation.
Sportsmail understands the FA had considered implementing the change sooner but were fully aware of being branded 'party-poopers'."
It's not like anyone will drop the cup off the bus...
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by 'non alcoholic' champagne do they mean lemonade?
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