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No more Champagne at FA Cup final

paulie8290
paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
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The FA are scrapping the tradition of giving the FA Cup winnners Champagne

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6952189/amp/FA-scrap-tradition-awarding-case-champagne-FA-Cup-winners.html
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    More sensible choice would be to have two options

    The first for those who see it as being against their religious beliefs

    The second option for those who dont have issue with it and get a choice if they want Champagne or not
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    The proper tradition was pints of milk.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,250
    Just use the bubbly non alcoholic stuff they give at the Bahrain and UAE GP's
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    edited April 2019
    understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset. 



    understandable of course. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    sam3110 said:
    Just use the bubbly non alcoholic stuff they give at the Bahrain and UAE GP's
    That stuff is carbonated rose water. When I saw the thread I thought they might have changed it to Prosecco! It seems to have taken over from Champagne in this country.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    This is why I’m voting Brexit Party...........
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    iainment said:
    The proper tradition was pints of milk.
    I'm sure that will still upset someone. 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    palarsehater said:
    understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset. 



    understandable of course. 
    Yeah...having relations with underage prostitutes is within his moral appetite but don't dare pour a beer on him as it offends his beliefs.

    And people entertain this crap ffs.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    the cynic in me thinks this is about not upsetting the sponsors rather than the players. 

    wouldn't be surprised if it was brought up when it was renewed and rather than announcing it as soon as it was signed they agreed to do it by a certain time.
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  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    PaddyP17 said:
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.
    If that were the case then surely a best of all worlds option would be taken?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    But is anyone really offended by players being awarded alcohol? 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    Not sure this really requires discussion on a Charlton Athletic forum! 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    iainment said:
    The proper tradition was pints of milk.
    I'm sure that will still upset someone. 

    I can think of a couple on CL in particular - unless it was coconut or almond milk!

    #nutshavefeelingstoo

  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,667
    Does anyone actually give a f#$$.

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    all the faux outrage
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,597
    Happy to have betting companies sponsoring all and sundry though, with it emblazoned on the shirts?
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited April 2019
    Rothko said:
    all the faux outrage
    Where?

    Edit...assume you mean in the article and comments on mail website rather than on this thread...the daily mail exists on punting and generating  faux outrage! 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    edited April 2019
    Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.

    Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.

    The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.

    I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.
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  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    PaddyP17 said:
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.

    It's tradition, get over it. Just read a story that a Scottish maritime museum is changing all its descriptive signage on its exhibits as some moronic visitor vandalised them by scratching out the word 'she' hwne a ship was mentioned. For hundreds of years ships have been described as female. "God bless all who sail in her" etc. Why not install CCTV (in which case the perpetrator could have been identified and prosecuted)? Or even cover the signage with plastic for a fraction of the price? This country is fast becoming a laughing stock.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.

    Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.

    The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.

    I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.
    Are you sure you’re a Millwall fan ?
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    PaddyP17 said:
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.

    'Inclusivity' a word that raises my hackles. For me all are welcome into the great footballing family, but like any 'club' if you don't like the harmless traditions enjoyed by millions -  feel free to leave.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Religious dogma has no place in dictating what prizes/gifts should be offered in a secular country.

    Just decline the offer of the gift when offered and say that your absolutely misplaced faith in the existence of a god means you can't accept it. At the same time explain that you in no way think your beliefs should shape what gifts are given until such a time that the burden of proof has been fulfilled and answered in full.

    The inclusivity argument is an interesting one seeing as it'd be the least inclusive wanting the inclusivity. The same folks who say that their book cannot change but want everything else to change on the grounds of inclusivity.

    I'd up the size of the champagne bottle awarded to a Melchizedek.
    Are you sure you’re a Millwall fan ?
    I have regular check ups but am assured that my c-bomb-ty levels are still in that range ;)
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    palarsehater said:
    understand it, the bundesliga celebration are usually huge steins boateng threw one over ribery and he got very upset. 



    understandable of course. 
    It was a stein full of piss to be fair. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,842
    addick05 said:
    PaddyP17 said:
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.

    'Inclusivity' a word that raises my hackles. For me all are welcome into the great footballing family, but like any 'club' if you don't like the harmless traditions enjoyed by millions -  feel free to leave.


    Totally agree. Inclusivity means a race to a low common denominator which becomes meaningless and excludes individual differences rather than be inclusive.

    To be truly inclusive then a vast selection of beverages should be available to enable freedom of choice - champagne, a nice single malt, milk (cows and vegan alternatives), fruit juice, Lilt, Umbongo, a range of cocktails, and, if really necessary, Adam's Ale.

    I'll get me coat (other inclement weather apparel is available). 

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited April 2019
    PaddyP17 said:
    The Red Robin said:
    We're a secular country, ridiculous to pander to archaic religious beliefs. 
    Is it pandering or is it inclusivity? I'd lean toward the latter.
    This victim mentality pisses me off. 

    If you don't want the champagne, don't take the champagne. Or in advance make the organisers aware of your beliefs so they can give you a non-alcoholic version. 

    Champagne has been and always will be a celebratory beverage even if it tastes vile.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,215

    "The FA will instead put a case of an alcohol-free champagne substitute in the winning dressing room so players can replicate those spraying celebrations.

    The FA's decision is not believed to have been the result of complaints from teams or players in the past but prompted within the organisation.

    Sportsmail understands the FA had considered implementing the change sooner but were fully aware of being branded 'party-poopers'."

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited April 2019
    Henry Irving said:

    "The FA will instead put a case of an alcohol-free champagne substitute in the winning dressing room so players can replicate those spraying celebrations.

    The FA's decision is not believed to have been the result of complaints from teams or players in the past but prompted within the organisation.

    Sportsmail understands the FA had considered implementing the change sooner but were fully aware of being branded 'party-poopers'."

    Perfect. Hopefully the clubs will supply a boozy version for their players that would prefer that. 

    It's not like anyone will drop the cup off the bus...


    Image result for dropped cup gif bus


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,558
    by 'non alcoholic' champagne do they mean lemonade?

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