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Declan Rice chooses England
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Have the rules changed? I believe Mike Flanagan was approached by ROI but couldn’t as he had played 3 games for England B team.1
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Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.0 -
Yeah I think they changed a few years ago, you are only locked to a nation now if you play a competitve 1st team game, so friendlies do not countguinnessaddick said:Have the rules changed? I believe Mike Flanagan was approached by ROI but couldn’t as he had played 3 games for England B team.0 -
i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come alongDA9 said:
Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.4 -
If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.cafcdave123 said:
i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come alongDA9 said:
Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts
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Did McClean, Duffy and Obafemi have senior caps for other countries?DA9 said:
If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.cafcdave123 said:
i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come alongDA9 said:
Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts
McTominay didn't play for anyone at any level until he played for the Scotland senior side.
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Rice did not play a competitive game for ROI, same as Duffy and McClean for NI, but they did play at youth level before switching, as did Giggs as did Zahacafcdave123 said:
Did McClean, Duffy and Obafemi have senior caps for other countries?DA9 said:
If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.cafcdave123 said:
i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come alongDA9 said:
Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts
McTominay didn't play for anyone at any level until he played for the Scotland senior side.0 -
Giggs? He played for England schoolboys because of the school he went to.DA9 said:
Rice did not play a competitive game for ROI, same as Duffy and McClean for NI, but they did play at youth level before switching, as did Giggs as did Zahacafcdave123 said:
Did McClean, Duffy and Obafemi have senior caps for other countries?DA9 said:
If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.cafcdave123 said:
i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come alongDA9 said:
Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life.killerandflash said:
His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happenedDA9 said:Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts
McTominay didn't play for anyone at any level until he played for the Scotland senior side.0 -
Never did that when he was Irish G!!! 😉guinnessaddick said:0 - Sponsored links:
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He didn’t know what he signed up for when he was under 17s Ireland, he was groomed, surely he can change his mind and have his own peoples vote..1
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Approved by Fifa already meaning Gareth can call him up for the next games.
https://www.lovesportradio.com/news/sport/declan-rices-switch-to-england-from-republic-of-ireland-approved-by-fifa/
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Thats happened quicker than expected...1
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Be careful what you wish for. A couple of months ago I would have called him a traitor. Every Cheltenham festival I dress in green, cheer the Irish horses and raise a glass to my Irish roots. I love all Irish music and have told my wife whenever I hear proper Irish music it sends a shiver up my spine. I only have one picture of my grandad who came over from Ireland and worked at The Arsenal in Woolwich. However, you only have to look at his face to see he liked a Guinness
and had probably grown up wanting to dig holes and kiss the Blarney Stone.
THEN, my son joined Ancestry.co.uk. Turns out my great grandad was stationed in Ireland in the army, my grandad was only born there. As soon as he could he came back and lived his life in Woolwich. My family roots are in Downe, a mile from where I live. Have ditched the Pogue records, taken down the picture of Sir Jack Charlton and moved my drink to lager. Be careful what you wish for Declan.5 -
Congratulations Declan - Young Irish Player of the Year
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47542669
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Farcical but hilariousMrOneLung said:Congratulations Declan - Young Irish Player of the Year
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The midfielder will not be in Dublin on Sunday to collect his award.
Probably because he would get lynched haha1 -
Haha taking the piss0
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About to be called up for next 2 Euro qualifiers.
We we should put him in U21 squad instead - just to piss our Irish friends off a bit more.0 -
If that did happen, what’s stopping switching back?SuedeAdidas said:About to be called up for next 2 Euro qualifiers.
We we should put him in U21 squad instead - just to piss our Irish friends off a bit more.0 - Sponsored links:
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I've no idea mate - the whole thing is a joke as far as I'm concerned. There is no way that he should have been allowed to switch to England at this stage of his career in my view.2
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Just talking about this and one one the guys reckon that for him to be in this squad the request to FIFA would have to have been made before he announced that he was switching? (Not that it changes anything, he could have made the request and said nothing )0
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Future Ballon d'Or winner. English and proud.4
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To me he should never have been eligible for ROI in the first place, I'd abolish the grandparent ruleSuedeAdidas said:I've no idea mate - the whole thing is a joke as far as I'm concerned. There is no way that he should have been allowed to switch to England at this stage of his career in my view.4 -
killerandflash said:
To me he should never have been eligible for ROI in the first place, I'd abolish the grandparent ruleSuedeAdidas said:I've no idea mate - the whole thing is a joke as far as I'm concerned. There is no way that he should have been allowed to switch to England at this stage of his career in my view.Different sport but I'm pretty sure Eoin Morgan's maternal grandparents were English. What's good for the goose and all that.
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Morgan's mother is English and he has had a British passport since he was born. And he has played in England for a long time too, so even though there's a side of me that feels it's a shame Ireland lost him, his case for playing for England is strong.redsek said:killerandflash said:
To me he should never have been eligible for ROI in the first place, I'd abolish the grandparent ruleSuedeAdidas said:I've no idea mate - the whole thing is a joke as far as I'm concerned. There is no way that he should have been allowed to switch to England at this stage of his career in my view.Different sport but I'm pretty sure Eoin Morgan's maternal grandparents were English. What's good for the goose and all that.
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Given up getting the sportsman of the year then.guinnessaddick said:0 -
Shay has retired.Redrobo said:
Given up getting the sportsman of the year then.guinnessaddick said:1 -
Represented Ireland already should not be allowed to now represent England - simple as that
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