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  • CAFCOlly
    CAFCOlly Posts: 526
    edited March 2019
    Oggy Red said:
    CAFCOlly said:

    Also, Phillips is a solid goalkeeper but his kicking is awful. I don’t agree that it’s not important as suggested by some on here. It is a justified concern that needs to be addressed - so many times his kicks head straight into Row Z which leads to unnecessary self inflicted pressure. Very frustrating as with decent distribution he’d be a more than capable goalkeeper. 


    Yeah, his kicking could be more consistantly better. But this is the Third Division remember; good players at this level still have some flaws in their game, which is why they're playing in the Third Division instead of the Prem.

    Our defence seem happy enough with Phillips. And his manager is picking him every game, when there's a very decent keeper on the bench, who's played at a higher level and much more experienced.

    He's conceded just 8 goals in 12 matches since being recalled to the 1st team on Jan 1st.
    In that period he's had 4 clean sheets, including 3 in a row in January.

    That's a record that any young keeper would be proud of. And Dillon's shown very decent handling and fine shot stopping. That's why his manager is picking him every week.
    Except I haven’t criticised his overall goalkeeping ability nor am I saying he shouldn’t be our number 1. However, this doesn’t mean that parts of his game shouldn’t be scrutinised or discussed, like with every other player in the team. 

    Phillips has come on leaps and bounds this season and is rightly our number one. However, his kicking does need to improve and putting this idea forward shouldn’t mean taking away from his overall value and contribution to the team, which is what’s been implied in your post. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,082
    Weird how both games against Burton have ended up with both teams getting a penalty before we get the winner from a relatively unlikely source, after not playing very well!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    Terrible second half performance but great result .

    Worst double I've ever see us get in a season, bizarre to be so poor in both matches yet win both.  Burton must be sick of us!
    I think you're being too harsh on us.
    We looked a bit leggy, but with a couple of first teamers out tonight we did a thoroughly professional job on them second half & won the game reasonably comfortably.
    I never thought they were going to equalise. 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,932
    We were leggy and had made 4 changes. We were below par and got away with it. Parked, done, onto Saturday.

    The general quality of Bielik and the driving thrust and energy of Williams were noticeably missed tonight
  • CAFCOlly said:
    Parker offered far more than Igor. He held the ball up well at times, and won some clever free kicks. He tracked back and defended set pieces, too. He’s not going to offer what Grant had. Not sure what people are expecting from him in all honesty. Overly criticised IMHO. 

    Also, Phillips is a solid goalkeeper but his kicking is awful. I don’t agree that it’s not important as suggested by some on here. It is a justified concern that needs to be addressed - so many times his kicks head straight into Row Z which leads to unnecessary self inflicted pressure. Very frustrating as with decent distribution he’d be a more than capable goalkeeper. 

    All in all a solid result that we ground out. Fair play to the team and manager - well deserved 6 points from two good teams. 

    COYR
    If the worst thing about a League One keeper is his kicking then he is probably decent enough.  

    Team today were not great but did enough for the points, at this stage of the season that is enough.

    win the next 9 and we may even nick 2nd place!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,082
    Terrible second half performance but great result .

    Worst double I've ever see us get in a season, bizarre to be so poor in both matches yet win both.  Burton must be sick of us!
    I think you're being too harsh on us.
    We looked a bit leggy, but with a couple of first teamers out tonight we did a thoroughly professional job on them second half & won the game reasonably comfortably.
    I never thought they were going to equalise. 
    I think that was more down to their lack of cutting edge than good play by us, as our passing wasn't good and we also looked toothless in the second half.

    Nobody was outstanding for us today. Dillon's keeping was fine but his kicking unacceptable. Defence was reasonable, Cullen was generally very good, Reeves ineffective other than the goal, Aribo was quiet (but then he was ill), Fosu was frustrating and contributed little. Taylor was more lively, Parker worked hard and did some of the dirty stuff well (defensive work, winning free kicks) without ever looking like an attacking threat.

    The subs didn't contribute much either
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,402
    Great result!
    Didn’t get to see the match tonight, so catching up via this thread. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a split in opinions as there is over Parker. Sounded like he tried at least, which is the least you’d expect. Can’t be easy when you don’t get a run of games, which Sarr explained hampered his own progress. Perhaps it might be the same with Parker. 
    I thought Igor was pretty good in the second half on Saturday. 
    Big gap now. Automatics mathematically possible still. You never know what can happen in this league. 
    We need Bielik back pronto. And Williams too, to a lesser extent perhaps. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,225
    Oggy Red said:

    At least Taylor didn't get booked tonight.

    The 37th match of the season has passed. And next Saturday, Lyle ...... you can play out of your skin.

    Red card for a two footed lunge coming up!
  • With regards to both Taylor and Bielik

    Do they each now have to survive until the end of the season without picking up 15 bookings to avoid another ban?
  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 4,759
    Quite enjoyed the 1st half, thought at half time we fully deserved our lead and as usual,it should've/could've been more. Man alive,that 2nd half was appalling,we looked leggy and a better team than Burton would've got something out of the game. I think I would've dozed off if I hadn't been so cold, such a boring half of football. Cullen as already mentioned was MOTM by a country mile. Fosu, Purrington and Phillips poor tonight. Got to be pleased with the 3 points though. Onwards and upwards.

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  • JamesSeed said:
    Great result!
    Didn’t get to see the match tonight, so catching up via this thread. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a split in opinions as there is over Parker. Sounded like he tried at least, which is the least you’d expect. Can’t be easy when you don’t get a run of games, which Sarr explained hampered his own progress. Perhaps it might be the same with Parker. 
    I thought Igor was pretty good in the second half on Saturday. 
    Big gap now. Automatics mathematically possible still. You never know what can happen in this league. 
    We need Bielik back pronto. And Williams too, to a lesser extent perhaps. 
    Parker comes across as a hardworking journeyman - more or less what I expected.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,100
    Terrible second half performance but great result .

    Worst double I've ever see us get in a season, bizarre to be so poor in both matches yet win both.  Burton must be sick of us!
    I think you're being too harsh on us.
    We looked a bit leggy, but with a couple of first teamers out tonight we did a thoroughly professional job on them second half & won the game reasonably comfortably.
    I never thought they were going to equalise. 
    I think that was more down to their lack of cutting edge than good play by us, as our passing wasn't good and we also looked toothless in the second half.

    Nobody was outstanding for us today. Dillon's keeping was fine but his kicking unacceptable. Defence was reasonable, Cullen was generally very good, Reeves ineffective other than the goal, Aribo was quiet (but then he was ill), Fosu was frustrating and contributed little. Taylor was more lively, Parker worked hard and did some of the dirty stuff well (defensive work, winning free kicks) without ever looking like an attacking threat.

    The subs didn't contribute much either
    Agree with all of that, but they are a decent team, especially away from  home, but we were better & deseved the win imo.
    I just think it's harsh to say we were terrible.
    I've seen us far worse literally hundreds of games. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,834
    Lasplie’s bouncy hair annoys me . That’s it .
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,866
    Three points, one moment of quality for second goal, but overall a poor performance. Parker did nothing, Aribo and Fosu disappeared. Does Phillips even practice kicking?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,082
    Phil said:
    I’d like to post something meaningful but I’m still pissing myself after Brayford’s shot in the 83rd minute!
    I was more amused by his hairstyle which seemed designed to show off his bald patch!
  • Three points, one moment of quality for second goal, but overall a poor performance. Parker did nothing, Aribo and Fosu disappeared. Does Phillips even practice kicking?
    His kicking was okay early on but got worse as the match went on.
  • Daarrzzetbum
    Daarrzzetbum Posts: 1,236
    Should, could, have been 2 up in initial few minutes, deserved 2-1 at half time, 2nd half awful but a great ugly 3 points.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,336
    Great result.

    Tired performance, but Cullen outstanding and held it all together. Fosu was poor at the top of the diamond. For me he did not seem to understand the role and was running in with the strikers instead of dropping into the hole. I think he would have been better left side, Aribo right and Reeves at the point.

    Interestingly our second goal came after Reeves and Aribo swapped sides. Good call from someone.

    Parker is not the answer for me up front. Tries hard and better in the air than Veto, but nothing for a defences to worry about.

    I think we all need to hope and pray that Taylor and Vetokele can forge a partnership in the coming weeks.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    No Bielik, No Williams, Aribo Average, and Cullen MOM. Everyone else put in a shift.
    But low on quality.
    Parker won a few free kicks, and ran around, but doesn't offer a goal threat.
    Reeves has scored 3 vital goals now, 
    It was always going to be after the lord Mayor's show. To get 6 points from the two home games was good.

    Without the class of Williams and Bielik we looked so average but Cullen held the team together and 11 points on Peterborough means do we freewheel to the Play offs or go hell for leather.

    Fitness at the end of 46 matches may decide our season.


  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    One or two of those off-sides in the first half from the lino. I want a second opinion from his guide dog.

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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,932
    Struggling to understand why Purrington is so consistently low rated by what seems the majority?
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,405
    Purrington really isn't bad at all, and he gets forward about as much as Page did. I don't know why he's got such a poor reputation. He did a slightly bad header at one point that landed us in trouble and people seem to be using that to score him 5 or whatever on Player Marks. People remember what they want to, I guess
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    No Bielik, No Williams, Aribo Average, and Cullen MOM. Everyone else put in a shift.
    But low on quality.
    Parker won a few free kicks, and ran around, but doesn't offer a goal threat.
    Reeves has scored 3 vital goals now, 
    It was always going to be after the lord Mayor's show. To get 6 points from the two home games was good.

    Without the class of Williams and Bielik we looked so average but Cullen held the team together and 11 points on Peterborough means do we freewheel to the Play offs or go hell for leather.

    Fitness at the end of 46 matches may decide our season.


    Very good point - always good to have winning momentum though. Fine balance with being knackered for the final push.

    LB is very new to all of this but seems to be astute in many ways also.

    Going to be interesting that’s for sure.

    Dont want to see another last years Shrewsbury performances in the play offs as we never really looked at the races.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,242
    Struggling to understand why Purrington is so consistently low rated by what seems the majority?
    Because they need someone to take Morgan Fox's place 
    He played well tonight other than the mad 5 seconds which did nearly cost us a goal.
    Naby Sarr dropped a clanger in first minute which should of been a goal as well.
    Taylor should of scored from Purrington pass just before the penalty.

    The lad's doing fine.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,855
    edited March 2019
    Awful 2nd half......and that after having a terrific first 5 mins when we could (& should) have been 3 up. If there was one game where "comfortable 4-0 home win" was so apt then this was it. 

    Cullen MOTM by a country mile......the rest just awful. Phillips kicking.....wtf  ??  Get Maxwell in there now.

    May out !!!
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,842
    3 terrible kicks out by Phillips straight out  for a throw marred an aim performance from him, nothing he could do with their pen

    i thought the Lino running outside the east stand was very poor but that was from north Upper and peeps I. The west stand said he got a lot of first half offsides correct. If so, Lyle Taylor baby needs to have a look at the line.

    i thought ours was a nailed on pen and theirs was a bit borderline. Didn’t see it well at the other end but the younger lads next to me saw arm out and video kinda supports that.

    great second goal from us. 

    Faorly cold and attritional second half. I did t think we pushed on as much as we should, attacking subs front bowyer though, fair play. 

    We won on a cold, previously wet evening, let’s move on 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,688
    edited March 2019
    PWR

    Not a classic as they say but we got the job done and that is what matters.

    The referee and linesman appeared to know about as much about the offside rule as Mrs G. Some very questionable decisions particularly in the first half. I also felt that having given us a penalty the ref was only too eager to even it up when the ball struck Bauer from point blank range. That said some might argue that Karlan Grant's penalty against Accrington was similar I suppose.

    Cullen was head and shoulders above everyone else if that is not an oxymoron given that he was arguably the smallest man on the pitch.

    I must also compliment Reeves on his goal given that I have been critical of him for much of his time at the Club. That goal would have graced any stadium and was the one standout moment of the night. Lyle's cross was heading for the West Stand it was struck so hard and wind assisted yet Reeves appeared from nowhere at the far post with a diving header which gave their keeper no chance.

    Once we went 2-1 up we did our usual and sat back and despite their lack of end product I was anxious that Burton would equalise. Fortunately they didn't and we took another firm step towards cementing a play off place.

    COYR
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Got to be pleased winning kicking the wrong way.
  • BR3red
    BR3red Posts: 1,715
    seth plum said:
    Got to be pleased winning kicking the wrong way.
    Agree - hate it 


  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,466
    edited March 2019