Declan Rice chooses England

killerandflash said:

DA9 said:

Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before. 

His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happened

Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life. 

DA9 said:

killerandflash said:

DA9 said:

Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before. 

His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happened

Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life. 

i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come along  

DA9 said:

cafcdave123 said:

DA9 said:

killerandflash said:

DA9 said:

Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before. 

His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happened

Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life. 

i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come along  

If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts 

Did McClean, Duffy and Obafemi have senior caps for other countries?

McTominay didn't play for anyone at any level until he played for the Scotland senior side.

DA9 said:

cafcdave123 said:

DA9 said:

cafcdave123 said:

DA9 said:

killerandflash said:

DA9 said:

Born in England, to an English mother, Irish father, lived here all his life, has Irish heritage like a lot of us do, hardly a controversial choice IMO, far more ROI pllayers over the years have more tenuous rights to play for ROI in the past, Christ, under Jack Charlton you only had to drink a pint of the black stuff to qualify.
Rice is not responsible for the rules, making choices like many did for ROI when Charlton was in charge as they knew they had no chance of an England call up, they wanted to play international football, some had never stepped foot in ROI before. 

His father isn't Irish, it's his father's parents who were Irish. If they abolished the ridiculous grandparent rule, none of this argument would have happened

Even less of a controversial choice then, English parents, born in London, lived in London all his life. 

i dont think it controversial that he want to play for England, i think its shit form playing for Ireland then fucking them off as soon as England come along  

If you support the ROI , I get it, you may or may not, I doubt Irish fans were bemoaning the choices made by Mcclean, Duffy & Obafemi.
it happens, it will happen again, McTominay chose Scotland over England last year, swings and roundabouts 

Did McClean, Duffy and Obafemi have senior caps for other countries?

McTominay didn't play for anyone at any level until he played for the Scotland senior side.

Rice did not play a competitive game for ROI, same as Duffy and McClean for NI, but they did play at youth level before switching, as did Giggs as did Zaha 

Giggs?  He played for England schoolboys because of the school he went to.

guinnessaddick said:

https://twitter.com/nathanmurf/status/1099037802010955776?s=21

Never did that when he was Irish G!!!  😉

Approved by Fifa already meaning Gareth can call him up for the next games.


https://www.lovesportradio.com/news/sport/declan-rices-switch-to-england-from-republic-of-ireland-approved-by-fifa/

Be careful what you wish for. A couple of months ago I would have called him a traitor. Every Cheltenham festival I dress in green, cheer the Irish horses and raise a glass to my Irish roots. I love all Irish music and have told my wife whenever I hear proper Irish music it sends a shiver up my spine. I only have one picture of my grandad who came over from Ireland and worked at The Arsenal in Woolwich. However, you only have to look at his face to see he liked a Guinness 
and had probably grown up wanting to dig holes and kiss the Blarney Stone.
THEN, my son joined Ancestry.co.uk. Turns out my great grandad was stationed in Ireland in the army, my grandad was only born there. As soon as he could he came back and lived his life in Woolwich. My family roots are in Downe, a mile from where I live. Have ditched the Pogue records, taken down the picture of Sir Jack Charlton and moved my drink to lager. Be careful what you wish for Declan.

MrOneLung said:

Congratulations Declan - Young Irish Player of the Year


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47542669

Farcical but hilarious  

SuedeAdidas said:

About to be called up for next 2 Euro qualifiers. 

We we should put him in U21 squad instead - just to piss our Irish friends off a bit more. 

If that did happen, what’s stopping switching back?

Just talking about this and one one the guys reckon that for him to be in this squad the request to FIFA would have to have been made before he announced that he was switching? (Not that it changes anything, he could have made the request and said nothing )

Represented Ireland already should not be allowed to now represent England - simple as that