Accrington number 15 Sykes

If Taylor was sent off for the apparent kick out then it has to be overturned. I'm sure a new rule came out to say it has to be a certain amount of force. There was no way there was enough force if it was even a kick out itself.

C_Jensens_Love_Child said:

If Taylor was sent off for the apparent kick out then it has to be overturned. I'm sure a new rule came out to say it has to be a certain amount of force. There was no way there was enough force if it was even a kick out itself.

Hate to say but if that is a rule then it sounds bloody daft

The fact a player has gone to do it regardless of the force used in a kick or slap is wrong in my eyes

RedChaser said:

C_Jensens_Love_Child said:

If Taylor was sent off for the apparent kick out then it has to be overturned. I'm sure a new rule came out to say it has to be a certain amount of force. There was no way there was enough force if it was even a kick out itself.

Good point, here you go;

VIOLENT CONDUCT

Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.

In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.

So that is 14 and 15 plus no 3 and 2 others then for stamping anlso cornering and pinning the lino down in an aggresive way

Athletico Charlton said:

Wilma said:

He deliberately barged into Bowyer when going into the tunnel which is when it all kicked off.

I may be wrongbut from where I was it looked like Sykes was just about to go down the tunnel when Bowyer deliberately walked up to him and said something which made him react and take a swing. Bowyer was not entirely innocent - and I loved it !

Bowyer was just about to walk into the tunnel and Sykes came up from behind him and shoulder barged him, Bowyer wasn't even looking in his direction. Bowyer turned as if to confront him but was dragged away. Everyone else then piled into the tunnel.

Whether Bowyer said something to Sykes before they reached the tunnel, I don't know, but Sykes definitely barged into Bowyer and started the tunnel ruck!

Rudders22 said:

roseandcrown said:

Rudders22 said:

roseandcrown said:

SoundAsa£ said:

roseandcrown said:

Rudders22 said:

On a separate now. I have heard of fans reporting players to the police... if the FA take no action.. 14 and 15 are both kicking taylor (common assault) plus swearing in front of children (on kids for a £1 day). Let alone 14 grabbing his testicles and pointing them out to the lino... We didn't deserve the win.. but justice.

Come on its happened before and will happen again for and against. Let the fa efl deal with it and we move on with 3 points.

What!!
DELIBERATELY treading/stamping on someone’s head!!
I’ve certainly never seen it before, live or on TV.......it’s a very very rare occurrence and needs addressing.

I might be trivialising the stamp on the head a bit just think we need to let the fa efl deal with it and move on

Trouble is they won't. They're usrless. They would much rather stick up for an inept referee.

If they don’t take any action that’s ridiculous but I think 15 and 14 will get bans

ForeverAddickted said:

Have a feeling that the FA / EFL will take the easy route out of all this and just charge both clubs for failing to control their players

I agree which would be incorrect. What did we do wrong?

Could argue that the bundle when Taylor was on the floor involved our players regardless of the fact that we were trying to get them away from Taylor, then whatever happened in the tunnel afterwards as the Referee stood on the pitch right in front of the entrance so would have seen what happened

guinnessaddick said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Have a feeling that the FA / EFL will take the easy route out of all this and just charge both clubs for failing to control their players

Which Charlton players? Taylor received a red card, who else?

See my comment above

I haven't seen clear evidence of a kick though. I suppose the onus will be on the club to prove there wasn't one. But having said that, we don't know what is in the refs report, it could be something else. I don't think he deserved to be sent off and a bit of justice would be a massive boost for us.

I saw him kicking out from the NU.

The only bit that’s gone viral though is the fella going for Taylor’s head, not Sykes.
Hopefully he gets collared too. Their GK and Taylor’s red should be overturned in my opinion

Unfortunately, after much thought I find it difficult to confidently say that the appeal will be successful. Unless of course The Club have submitted video evidence that we have not seen which goes strongly in our favour. My conclusion to this is because it is not absolutely clear that Taylor did not do anything from the angle we have seen it from, he is surrounded by a whole group of players. Albeit he was on the floor for the whole process, and he was assaulted during that time too.

We are not Manchester United where you know that this kind of thing would be rescinded without hesitation. I live in hope until we hear the verdict on Thursday which of course I really hope that our appeal is successful, as personally I haven’t seen any wrongdoing on Taylor’s part.

Further action must be taken against the Accrington Stanley number 14 and 15 as otherwise the EFL and The FA are setting a precedent that this behaviour is acceptable if undetected by the officials at the time. For that I would have to assume they would both receive retrospective bans of at least 3 matches, but at the same time, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

The incident regarding Solly and the assistant by the East Stand would have been Solly knowing how the Accrington Stanley players have already reacted when we both went down to 10 men, so for them to run over to the assistant was not to change his mind, but to give him abuse. I have no doubt in my mind that Solly run over there to get the players away from him, you must take into consideration that Solly was captain on Saturday. If assistants of the main referee make a decision and then change their mind based on the opponent players telling them to, then all credibility and respect is lost. That assistant has now lost control and the confidence of everyone, how can anyone trust his decisions again. Therefore, no change of decision would be made and it is a good job too, as it was correct and it was indeed a penalty.

Overall, we must prepare for Taylor to not be allowed to play, but hope that they see sense this time and having him back available should be looked at as a bonus, if only for the fact that our history with this has not been good.

Their keeper's red card has been withdrawn on appeal according to the Stanley website.

I wonder if this is bad news for Taylor's appeal? If they received appeals from both Charlton and AS for their respective players yesterday, I would have assumed they would have provided the good news to both clubs at the same time if they believe the red cards for both were unwarranted.

Deserves to be suspended for at least double the norm. Six games would not be overly excessive for his cowardly assault on Taylor.

MuttleyCAFC said:

Sadly I predict Taylor will have his red upheld, their keeper will get off but 14 will be retrospectively punished. Taylor is the bit that bothers me!

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