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  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    Can we go back to the first quarter please?
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Callumcafc said:

    At this point I’ll take a Chiefs v Rams/Saints super bowl.

    Chiefs Rams would be a rematch of that incredible 54v51 game earlier in the season.

    Not to mention that this means Rams/Saints next week would be a rematch of a 45-35 bonanza itself!
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,959
    Plus wasn't Patriots v Chiefs. 43-40 earlier in the season?

    Breathing a bit easier on my bet after that shaky first quarter.
  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    Considering the number of injuries in this game its a miracle the Eagles are even as close as they are right now.
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Saints have played a long way below par. Came out with a lot of arrogance and went big immediately. That backfired and they have had to work hard for the lead. I wanted a Reid bowl (Chiefs Vs Eagles) but Saints / Rams would be a much better NFC Championship game. So I've changed my mind.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    That’s sealed it - and every Cowboys, Redskins and Giants fan breathes a huge sigh of relief.
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    That should do it, but why did Foles run a play before the 2 min warning?
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Yes!!
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Excellent. I'm glad a team that shares a name with bloody Palace (spit ugh eugghhhh) aren't advancing further.
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,883
    Phew, but we will need to play better to beat the Rams.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited January 2019


    I also wouldn't be surprised if Giants, Redskins or Broncos are an option.
  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    On one drive the Eagles lose the following defensive players for various lengths of time to injury:
    Corner back Rasul Douglas
    Defensive End Brandon Graham
    Defensive Tackle Fletcher Cox
    Defensive End Michael Bennett

    They also lost Guard Brandon Brooks to an achillies injury and Left Tackle Jason Peters from the offense.

    Honsestly its incredible that given those injuries they were able to keep the game alive into the last 90 seconds or so. The future is bright.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    The Red Robin said:



    I also wouldn't be surprised if Giants, Redskins or Broncos are an option.
    Jason La Canfora is notoriously completely wrong about everything Jags-related. In fact, we can probably assume the opposite has happened, and that either the Jags or Flacco rejected the notion outright.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    PaddyP17 said:

    The Red Robin said:



    I also wouldn't be surprised if Giants, Redskins or Broncos are an option.
    Jason La Canfora is notoriously completely wrong about everything Jags-related. In fact, we can probably assume the opposite has happened, and that either the Jags or Flacco rejected the notion outright.
    Yeah - hadn't realised it was him at first but it's not the first time I've heard Flacco linked to the Jags. Daniel Jeremiah reckons the Broncos are one to keep an eye on with him.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
  • cs1986
    cs1986 Posts: 1,529
    edited January 2019
    The Red Robin said:

    Has bust written all over him imo. He has only declared because there is basically no QB's in the draft worth a 1st round pick.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Thought he was joining the baseball team that drafted him first round last year
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    MrOneLung said:

    Thought he was joining the baseball team that drafted him first round last year

    He still could.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    MrOneLung said:

    Thought he was joining the baseball team that drafted him first round last year

    72 hours to pull out.
    Hoping for a big contract offer maybe?
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  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    Hes hoping that the Oakland A's give him a major league contract. Technically they can do that and they may well end up doing so because if he signs for an NFL team they get nothing. They probably get the money they have paid him back but they lose their first round draft pick (8th pick in the draft) and get nothing in return.

    If they do give him a ML contract then he has to go on the 40 man roster which causes some difficulty for them. Firstly, he would have to make it to the major league team in 4 years or they would lose him. Secondly that roster spot is very valuable in terms of flexibility and would cause them problems keeping marginal prospects.

    Hes right to declare for the draft. Baseball pays a lot more once you are established (though that seems like it might be changing at the moment) and is probably a lot better for your long term health but the working conditions and salaries in the minor leagues are pretty bad. He can guarantee a sizable amount of money right now by entering the NFL draft (barring injury between now and the draft). So hes essentially trading potential long term earnings for guaranteed earnings right now.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    edited January 2019
    el-pietro said:

    Hes hoping that the Oakland A's give him a major league contract. Technically they can do that and they may well end up doing so because if he signs for an NFL team they get nothing. They probably get the money they have paid him back but they lose their first round draft pick (8th pick in the draft) and get nothing in return.

    If they do give him a ML contract then he has to go on the 40 man roster which causes some difficulty for them. Firstly, he would have to make it to the major league team in 4 years or they would lose him. Secondly that roster spot is very valuable in terms of flexibility and would cause them problems keeping marginal prospects.

    Hes right to declare for the draft. Baseball pays a lot more once you are established (though that seems like it might be changing at the moment) and is probably a lot better for your long term health but the working conditions and salaries in the minor leagues are pretty bad. He can guarantee a sizable amount of money right now by entering the NFL draft (barring injury between now and the draft). So hes essentially trading potential long term earnings for guaranteed earnings right now.

    I originally thought this was Murray's plan but there appear to be a few rumblings that he genuinely wants to play football over baseball, especially as he's likely to be a first round pick this year and get the guarantees and security that come with that. In theory at least.

    Edit: some scenarios here: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25761785/kyler-murray-declares-2019-nfl-draft-answering-questions-next
  • el-pietro
    el-pietro Posts: 611
    The Red Robin said:

    el-pietro said:

    Hes hoping that the Oakland A's give him a major league contract. Technically they can do that and they may well end up doing so because if he signs for an NFL team they get nothing. They probably get the money they have paid him back but they lose their first round draft pick (8th pick in the draft) and get nothing in return.

    If they do give him a ML contract then he has to go on the 40 man roster which causes some difficulty for them. Firstly, he would have to make it to the major league team in 4 years or they would lose him. Secondly that roster spot is very valuable in terms of flexibility and would cause them problems keeping marginal prospects.

    Hes right to declare for the draft. Baseball pays a lot more once you are established (though that seems like it might be changing at the moment) and is probably a lot better for your long term health but the working conditions and salaries in the minor leagues are pretty bad. He can guarantee a sizable amount of money right now by entering the NFL draft (barring injury between now and the draft). So hes essentially trading potential long term earnings for guaranteed earnings right now.

    I originally thought this was Murray's plan but there appear to be a few rumblings that he genuinely wants to play football over baseball, especially as he's likely to be a first round pick this year and get the guarantees and security that come with that. In theory at least.

    Edit: some scenarios here: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25761785/kyler-murray-declares-2019-nfl-draft-answering-questions-next
    Oh yeah he could totally be planning to sign for an NFL team. My post just shows whats possible for him with MLB.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    It's all set up for us to reach by drafting Murray and he opts for baseball anyway, or if he does commit to football, to bust massively. Yaaaay.
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    I think Americans shouldn't be allowed to name their own children.

    Kyle = ok, Kyler = an abomination.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,035
    Antonio Bryant has just followed me on Twitter. I have literally no idea why. But cool.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    He is a big fan of spin bowling.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,360
    My view on the Murray situation is that he’s betting on himself to get a Kirk Cousins contract in the NFL, I mean even before that point a 1st round QBs contract is almost always fully guarenteed anyway so he’s looking at 10+m there. I’m not an expert on baseball so might be off here but I think that pretty much only the $6m bonus he was paid is all the guarenteed money he has if he went for the MLB, with the ‘Farm system’ you work your way through lower leagues earning pretty minimal wages but are expected to keep incredibly fit and perform at your best without even having a ‘spot’ on a major league team at all. With how protected QBs are nowadays I don’t buy much in to the CTE argument and with contracts being more and more guarentee sided if he enjoys football more I don’t see why he shouldn’t be declaring.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    If you look at the way QBs are being protected now, there is no real reason for Kyler Murray to be massively concerned about his health if he does pick the NFL route.

    It’s a story to watch with interest this off season.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    I thought the rookie contracts had set limits anyway so wont get a mega contract until 5th season.

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